Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I don't think we will support the option to disable mnemonics much >longer. Mnemonics are standard user interface elements on a modern >desktop and it doesn't make sense to add extra code to disable them. Sven: I hope you will reconsider that. Having this simple (menu-mnemonics yes/no) option makes gimp much more useful for people like me that don't generally like to use the menus. Now that I know that it is there, I would consider it a real loss in functionality if it were removed. For me, you would just be eliminating a bunch of useful shortcut assignments and locking them on functions that would never be used. Regards, -- C. Jeffery Small ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
Hi, On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 08:09 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > But the code is already in place, and works fine. Some people do use > it, as they do conflict with shortcut assignement, whcih makes for a > faster work flow than mnemonics. I see nor eason to remove this > feature - even if it is a feature that sounds strange and not needed > for most people, from the codebase. It is not going to be removed as long as it doesn't conflict with other code changes. But we are certainly not going to enhance support for this (as requested in the mail I replied to). In particular not since such support would have to be added at the GTK+ level, not in GIMP. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
On Friday 04 January 2008 05:43, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 03:36 +, Jeffery Small wrote: > > Thanks for the tip! That's just what I was looking for. The > > only remaining problem I see is that the Alt-S shortcut is still > > being grabbed by the Keyboard Shortcuts menu itself to toggle the > > "Save keyboard shortcuts on exit" toggle. Should shortcuts like > > these be included under the menu-mnemonics property in the > > future, or is there possibly another property that would address > > these other shortcuts that are not strictly menu accelerators? > > I don't think we will support the option to disable mnemonics much > longer. Mnemonics are standard user interface elements on a modern > desktop and it doesn't make sense to add extra code to disable > them. But the code is already in place, and works fine. Some people do use it, as they do conflict with shortcut assignement, whcih makes for a faster work flow than mnemonics. I see nor eason to remove this feature - even if it is a feature that sounds strange and not needed for most people, from the codebase. js -><- > > > Sven > > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
Hi, On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 03:36 +, Jeffery Small wrote: > Thanks for the tip! That's just what I was looking for. The only > remaining problem I see is that the Alt-S shortcut is still being grabbed > by the Keyboard Shortcuts menu itself to toggle the "Save keyboard > shortcuts on exit" toggle. Should shortcuts like these be included under > the menu-mnemonics property in the future, or is there possibly another > property that would address these other shortcuts that are not strictly > menu accelerators? I don't think we will support the option to disable mnemonics much longer. Mnemonics are standard user interface elements on a modern desktop and it doesn't make sense to add extra code to disable them. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >You can already turn mnemonics off if you don't like them. From the >gimprc manual page: > (menu-mnemonics yes) > When enabled, GIMP will show mnemonics in menus. Possible values > are yes and no. Sven: Thanks for the tip! That's just what I was looking for. The only remaining problem I see is that the Alt-S shortcut is still being grabbed by the Keyboard Shortcuts menu itself to toggle the "Save keyboard shortcuts on exit" toggle. Should shortcuts like these be included under the menu-mnemonics property in the future, or is there possibly another property that would address these other shortcuts that are not strictly menu accelerators? Regards, -- C. Jeffery Small ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
Hi, On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 14:56 +, Jeffery Small wrote: > I would like to suggest that the gimp developers consider displaying > these menu shortcuts in the Keyboard Shortcuts dislog and making them > reassignable for those of use who don't otherwise use them. You can already turn mnemonics off if you don't like them. From the gimprc manual page: (menu-mnemonics yes) When enabled, GIMP will show mnemonics in menus. Possible val‐ ues are yes and no. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
I wrote: > I tried to assign Alt+D or Alt+L to the Lens Distortion filter and in > both cases the short cut assignment failed. John Coppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Maybe, because Alt_L is the call to the Layer menu in the drawing window? >I found that none of the underlined letters in the menu bar can be >assigned (Alt_F, Alt_E, etc, but they would be different for each >language). John: Yes, you are correct. I'm surprised that gimp doesn't display these assignments somewhere in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog. I have a custom spreadsheet that records all the assigned shortcuts and I had scanned through this dialog and recorded all default assignments. However, I have never used a shortcut to display a pulldown menu (pretty much a Windows type of action) so it never even crossed my mind to check this. I would like to suggest that the gimp developers consider displaying these menu shortcuts in the Keyboard Shortcuts dislog and making them reassignable for those of use who don't otherwise use them. John, thanks for the tip pointing me to the answer. Regards, -- Jeffery Small ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questing re. keyboard shortcuts
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:37:19 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffery Small) wrote: > I tried to assign Alt+D or Alt+L to the Lens Distortion filter and in > both cases the short cut assignment failed. Hi Jeff. Maybe, because Alt_L is the call to the Layer menu in the drawing window? I found that none of the underlined letters in the menu bar can be assigned (Alt_F, Alt_E, etc, but they would be different for each language). John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
