Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)
Hi, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This only works for sufficiently configurable window managers. Not all windows managers are sufficiently configurable. Which is why applications should be configurable to disable such hinting. That is a redundant statement since, as we all know, the hints are optional. I wonder what point you are trying to make. At the moment the hints are not even enabled by default but I would actually like to reconsider the defaults for 2.2. It would be nice to get some feedback whether people are using the (toolbox-window-hint utility) and/or (dock-window-hint utility) preferences and how well they work or not work for them. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)
Hi, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither window managers nor applications have any FSCKING business screwing with window depth. If some such change gets made to the GIMP, I certainly hope it's optional. I think you misunderstood what we are talking about here. Of course it is the job of the window manager to deal with the z-order of windows. After all it is a window manager. So if an application gives the window manager the hint that a certain window should be treated special (for example kept above another window or even above all windows of the same application), then the window manager should respect that hint. Of course the user can still configure his/her window manager to ignore those hints or he/she could install a window manager that ignores those hints by default. But it is certainly the window managers business. Some people seem to argue though that the application should try to force a certain behaviour on the window manager. That is definitely not a good idea. The application should give the window manager enough information to do a good job but it should let the window manager manage the windows. BTW, the changes that you refer to have all been made already. Due to the fact that the interpretation of the spec varies between window managers, we have added some preference options to control what hints are set. I would prefer though if the EWMH spec would have a window type that would fit for the GIMP toolbox and dock windows. At the moment there's UTILITY which comes closest. But have a look yourself: http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.2.html#id2503768 It may make sense to make the dock windows transient for the toolbox. Would probably be worth a try. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, GSR - FR wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:01:59 +0200 From: GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-09-17 at 2307.46 +0200): information. my question is: is it possible to have gimp in one window? like in other graphic programs - not to mention photoshop or photo-paint. i found Now that you raise the issue, I wonder what is going in in the following image http://www.deviantart.com/view/8257589/. New method? Optional setting? It reminds me of the same app in MacOS (where I always found it as a bunch of windows), but it is the first time I see that in MSWindows version. If I understand your comments correctly you seem to think that this version of Adobe Photoshop is somehow differnt because the windows appear to be seperate. What this screenshot shows is not anything different from what photoshop has been in the past, however it does look a little different because the main window has been resized (the toolbox and palettes have stayed where they normally are, only now they happen to fall outside the main window) and the image window is maximized to fit the main window but it is still a window inside a window (note the min/max/close window icons barely visible on the top right). It is difficult to describe it clearly but this layout of photoshop is nothing new, it is more optional settings as you said. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ I love Inkscape http://inkscape.org Free SVG Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-09-17 at 2307.46 +0200): information. my question is: is it possible to have gimp in one window? like in other graphic programs - not to mention photoshop or photo-paint. i found Now that you raise the issue, I wonder what is going in in the following image http://www.deviantart.com/view/8257589/. New method? Optional setting? It reminds me of the same app in MacOS (where I always found it as a bunch of windows), but it is the first time I see that in MSWindows version. GSR PS: I know, not GIMP, but it as it is always other apps do foo, so GIMP should too, I wonder if now the things are reversing. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
