Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-18 Thread John R. Culleton
On Friday 17 February 2006 17:42, Axel Wernicke wrote:


 both - html and pdf versions are more or less automatically build
 from docbook (xml) sources. Since building the html files is much
 more robust to inconsintencies like missing image files etc. they are
 available in more recent versions than the pdf files are. Building
 them is more art then science right now...

 ... feel free to get involved!

  Best,

I'll look into it to see if I have something to contribute. 
As a professional indexer I might be able to help in that
department. I use TeX plus Makeindex to generate indexes. 

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[Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread John R. Culleton
The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not
come with an index. I am thinking of preparing my own (which I
will share of course.) Has anyone found an index to this manual
on the site? 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 17.02.2006 um 21:42 schrieb John R. Culleton:


The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not
come with an index.


This might be true for the dec issue of the english manual but is  
rather a temporarily weakness of the pdf production process ( docbook  
- (la)tex - pdf ) then a general problem. The german version I've  
build a couple of days ago has an index.



I am thinking of preparing my own (which I
will share of course.)


You want to prepare what? An index or a manual? The first one is  
already done in each docbook chapter. (Well, it *might* be that there  
is room for improvements of course :)



Has anyone found an index to this manual
on the site?


uhh - yes - all the html versions have one and as I just wrote all  
the pdf versions *should* have one too!



Greetings, lexA



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Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not
 come with an index. I am thinking of preparing my own (which I
 will share of course.) Has anyone found an index to this manual
 on the site? 

The manual is written in Docbook XML. It should be a lot easier to
generate a PDF that contains an index than to attempt to create one
manually. Especially since the manual index will be outdated pretty
soon. The manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread John R. Culleton
On Friday 17 February 2006 15:54, Axel Wernicke wrote:
 Am 17.02.2006 um 21:42 schrieb John R. Culleton:
  The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not
  come with an index.

 This might be true for the dec issue of the english manual but is
 rather a temporarily weakness of the pdf production process ( docbook
 - (la)tex - pdf ) then a general problem. The german version I've
 build a couple of days ago has an index.

  I am thinking of preparing my own (which I
  will share of course.)

 You want to prepare what? An index or a manual? The first one is
 already done in each docbook chapter. (Well, it *might* be that there
 is room for improvements of course :)

As the subject line implies I am talking about a BOB index. There
is a page for it but no index. So someone needs to run LaTeX or
pdflatex twice to get the index properly included in the pdf file. 
 If the html version has an index, and the pagination is the same
 as the pdf file, I can use that index instead of course. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread John R. Culleton
haknOn Friday 17 February 2006 15:57, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not
  come with an index. I am thinking of preparing my own (which I
  will share of course.) Has anyone found an index to this manual
  on the site?

 The manual is written in Docbook XML. It should be a lot easier to
 generate a PDF that contains an index than to attempt to create one
 manually. Especially since the manual index will be outdated pretty
 soon. The manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis.


 Sven

Thanks for your reply. Are the docbook sources posted somewhere?
If so I could download them and go through the usual index
generation steps. 

When you say the manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis
are you referring to the downloadable pdf or just the html
versions? The date on the manual I downloaded was December 28,
2005. I assume it is the latest pdf version. 

Best,

John Culleton

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Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual

2006-02-17 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 17.02.2006 um 23:11 schrieb John R. Culleton:


haknOn Friday 17 February 2006 15:57, Sven Neumann wrote:

Thanks for your reply. Are the docbook sources posted somewhere?
If so I could download them and go through the usual index
generation steps.


Sure they are. Feel free to have a closer look to docs.gimp.org and  
read the How to get involved section to learn how the gimp docs  
project is organized.




When you say the manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis
are you referring to the downloadable pdf or just the html
versions? The date on the manual I downloaded was December 28,
2005. I assume it is the latest pdf version.


both - html and pdf versions are more or less automatically build  
from docbook (xml) sources. Since building the html files is much  
more robust to inconsintencies like missing image files etc. they are  
available in more recent versions than the pdf files are. Building  
them is more art then science right now...


... feel free to get involved!



Best,

John Culleton

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