[Gimp-user] I'm begging you -- please unsubscribe me.

2013-03-21 Thread Ken Warner
I have very poor eyesight. This happened suddenly in Nov. 2012. I can barely type. I can't plow through the pages of instructions on how to manage my account. I just want to be unsubscribed. Can you PLEASE do that simple thing for me without telling me how dumb I am because I can't see?

Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

2012-09-12 Thread Ken Warner
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up a jpeg file. On the other hand, for people who do complicated image building over many sessions, it makes sense to save a project and in that case it would be logical to have an option that allows gimp to open the previous

Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

2012-09-12 Thread Ken Warner
Should GIMP be dumbed down for people who are too stupid to save their work? As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open; Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the interaction and all users can be given the maximum security for

Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

2012-09-12 Thread Ken Warner
Exactly! On 9/12/2012 9:40 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ken Warner wrote: As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open; Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the interaction and all users can

Re: [Gimp-user] About bad new save export function in Gimp-2.8

2012-09-11 Thread Ken Warner
That's good news! I wish that effort all success. On 9/11/2012 2:49 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Maarten De Munck wrote: If you are really really annoyed by this behaviour, use 2.6, start a fork, ask/pay someone to start a fork for you, use another image

Re: [Gimp-user] About bad new save export function in Gimp-2.8

2012-09-11 Thread Ken Warner
The obvious design that satisfies both groups has been offered several times and has been derided as --- I don't know why, although numerous attempts to justify the current design has been proffered. On 9/11/2012 4:52 PM, Ofnuts wrote: On 09/11/2012 08:38 AM, maderios wrote: Hi I'm not

Re: [Gimp-user] About bad new save export function in Gimp-2.8

2012-09-10 Thread Ken Warner
Just because the English doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean the viewpoint is invalid. And maybe your refusal to see the thought in the message is the root of the discord. On 9/10/2012 9:32 AM, Simon Budig wrote: maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote: Because you're not dealing with

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Ken Warner
I just summarized the common responses to concerns about the Save/Export redesign. Personally, I'll be sticking with 2.6 until the current crop of developers move on to some more rewarding tasks and are replaced by more agile and reasonable people. On 8/20/2012 8:49 AM, Paul Naude wrote:

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Ken Warner
The paradigm for saving work was figured out and became a standard action years ago. New; Open; Save; Save As; have all the functionality that is needed. Along with a few carefully thought out warning dialogs -- that's all that is needed. If one is really concerned about losing work, one

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Warner
You will be told to use other image manipulation software because GIMP is now only for professionals that Save XCF files. And you will be told in no uncertain terms that the decision to make GIMP only save XCF files is well documented (so how can there be any question of the propriety of that

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Warner
Like I said On 8/20/2012 9:04 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: On 20.08.2012 16:36, Ken Warner wrote: You will be told to use other image manipulation software because GIMP is now only for professionals that Save XCF files. And you will be told in no uncertain terms that the decision to make

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-14 Thread Ken Warner
1) Well then, if I open a jpg file and make layers and paths etc. and want to save my work, why is it anathema to export it as an XCF file? 2) Your assumption is that there are layers after the image is flattened seems odd. On 8/14/2012 9:39 AM, Burnie West wrote: On 08/14/2012 08:07 AM, Ken

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-14 Thread Ken Warner
wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Ken Warner wrote: 1) Well then, if I open a jpg file and make layers and paths etc. and want to save my work, why is it anathema to export it as an XCF file? Gmail tells me there are 58 deleted messages in this conversation (yes). That is, after 58

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Ken Warner
But, continuing to *argue* here is fruitless. This is most certainly and sadly true. On 8/13/2012 11:20 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * maderiosmader...@gmail.com [08-13-12 14:09]: ... Libreoffice doesnt ask you, you choose or write what you want. When you want to save with Libreoffice, or

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-08-07 Thread Ken Warner
We have found that logic does not apply here. The only allowed interactions are those approved by the developers. On 8/7/2012 2:23 AM, Anoko wrote: 2012/8/6 Anokofor...@gimpusers.com: I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times now, very annoying ;-). Why is it not

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-08-07 Thread Ken Warner
Alexandre, Just because you write something down doesn't make it right. Mein Kampf comes to mind. On 8/7/2012 2:52 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Anoko wrote: Its wrong because users don't think that way? What users? :) The are no users in general.

Re: [Gimp-user] DON'T HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-07-17 Thread Ken Warner
So the GIMP is for professionals AND old ladies. :-) On 7/17/2012 1:08 PM, isabel brison wrote: I rather like it actually... I do GIMP workshops for (mainly) old ladies who don't know the first thing about computers, but enjoy themselves doing silly photomontages and messing around with

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Ken Warner
Well, that is the question isn't it? On 7/14/2012 7:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Johannes wrote: Having followed the discussions on the GIMP usability changes for some weeks now, what I am missing most is a direct comparison of arguments. Therefore

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Ken Warner
Or instead of the GIMP developers assuming that the users of GIMP are too stupid to know what they want, they could just let the user make all the decisions in a modal fashion. If I start GIMP and generate a New file, bring up the usual file dialog with all the types of files that GIMP knows