Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 12:56 +0200, erroneus wrote: I also have poppler-glib 0.12.4 which comes with my distro. However, the compiler doesn't see it. It's not the show-stopper that the SVG support was. You need the development packages, those two: libpoppler-dev libpoppler-glib-dev 'libpoppler-dev' is a dependency of 'libpoppler-glib-dev' so you need both of them, I imagine your distro separates the devel packages from the standard libraries hence the *-dev in the names. Aliet Exposito -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 04:14 +0200, erroneus wrote: You need to build things in the selected build directory, babl, gegl and gimp If glib and gtk versions are too low, you need to build those and their dependancies in the selected directory. DO NOT BUILD IN /usr or /usr/local Just a note here, there are rpm packages fo gimp 2.8 for Centos 6.2 and 6.3 according to rpmfind.net. It's probably also fine to build in /usr/local, it is on most rpm-based systes - as far as I can tell it's only debian and debian-like systems that consider /usr/local to be part of the operating system. But good advice to stay away from it in general, though. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml Co-aauthor, 5th edition of Beginning XML, Wrox, July 2012 -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 04:14 +0200, erroneus wrote: You need to build things in the selected build directory, babl, gegl and gimp If glib and gtk versions are too low, you need to build those and their dependancies in the selected directory. DO NOT BUILD IN /usr or /usr/local Just a note here, there are rpm packages fo gimp 2.8 for Centos 6.2 and 6.3 according to rpmfind.net. It's probably also fine to build in /usr/local, it is on most rpm-based systes - as far as I can tell it's only debian and debian-like systems that consider /usr/local to be part of the operating system. But good advice to stay away from it in general, though. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
The previous two threads didn't go to the list, clicked 'Reply' instead 'Reply to All' so they went directly to your mail, my mistake... :P Try configuring 'librsvg' without 'gobject-introspection': ./configure --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.8/ --enable-introspection=no And yes, I tried compiling 'gobject-introspection-1.33.3.tar.xz' and 'librsvg-2.36.1' fails to detect it, so for now disable it and give it a try. Okay, we have success with svg image loading. One last thing and it's probably trivial for everyone here but me. The GTK themes aren't taking. When run from the command line, I get this: (gimp:26437): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: clearlooks, Gtk-Message: Failed to load module pk-gtk-module Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module What do I need to do to resolve that? It's usable, but it doesn't use the colors and stuff that other windows use. Does CentOS use yum? What does # yum search canberra or # yum search clearlooks output? -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
Hello erroneus, On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:02:29 +0200 erroneus for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I've been looking all over but there are just no CentOS (or RHEL for that matter) packages for the latest version of GiMP. Compiling from source doesn't even seem to be a good option either as it looks as if it will break the whole OS the way things are set up. Why would it? Just compile using ./configure --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.8.x (for example) and install under a separate prefix. No need to install directly under /usr . Hope it helps. Regards, Shlomi Fish This is no way to build an application! Applications and OSes should never be tied so closely together. I like GiMP 2.8 for Windows a lot and would prefer to run it under CentOS as that is my main desktop OS. I have given up on Fedora because of the unholy abomination GNOME has become. What is a CentOS user to do? We want a stable and consistent OS and user experience without having to reload/update everything after less than a year, and if I want to run a current version of Libre Office, there is no trouble. I can do that. If I want a current version of Firefox, I can do that. But GiMP? Nope! Why would developers choose to shut us out like this? -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ My Favourite FOSS - http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/favourite/ ew73 VB.NET is all of the fun of enforced privacy OO with all of the power of BASIC. — Freenode’s #perl Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
Hello gerard82, On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:59:22 +0200 gerard82 for...@gimpusers.com wrote: This is no way to build an application! Applications and OSes should never be tied so closely together. I like GiMP 2.8 for Windows a lot and would prefer to run it under CentOS as that is my main desktop OS. I have given up on Fedora because of the unholy abomination GNOME has become. What is a CentOS user to do? We want a stable and consistent OS and user experience without having to reload/update everything after less than a year, and if I want to run a current version of Libre Office, there is no trouble. I can do that. If I want a current version of Firefox, I can do that. But GiMP? Nope! Why would developers choose to shut us out like this? I checked Distrowatch for Centos:Ridiculous,Their Gimp is at 2.6.9 while the last in the 2,6 series is 2,6.12. I've been using Gentoo since december 2003 after trying a lot of distro's. Go to their website and check out the Handbook. It has a steep learning curve but the reward is commensurate. You'll be able to install and compile anything you may want. Gerard. There are many distributions one can recommend instead of CentOS (and I have my own preference that is not Gentoo) and I'm sure a lot of them have many merits, but the question was asked regarding CentOS and we should stick to providing advice for it. See: http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/web/use-qmail-instead/ Regards, Shlomi Fish P.S: Gentoo is for wimps. Real men use Linux From Scratch! And real programmers use butterflies: http://xkcd.com/378/ ;-) -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ My Public Domain Photos - http://www.flickr.com/photos/shlomif/ mst I find it’s usually safe to assume that whatever shlomif’s doing, there isn’t a good reason for it. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:39 PM, erroneus wrote: But it has revealed what I believe are philisophical flaws in GiMP and/or GNOME which I think should be resolved. You mean that GIMP developers sometimes bump dependencies? We don't do it, because we like annoying people. We do it, because upstream system libraries get important fixes. You may see it as a philosophical flow, but I see it as just another example of duality. How do I get this shared with developers? You already have. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:39 PM, erroneus wrote: I want to be able to run my older version of GNOME with a newer version of GiMP. How can I resolve this? If the answer is compiling from source, can I get some hints as to what whole sets of source I need to get and how to go about installing them? I suspect it's all about the command line switches saying something like install everything in /usr/local/gimp-2.8.0 or something to that effect. I suggest you read these instructions (ignore the ubuntu bias); http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu If that's a whole new world, you will find it an interesting learning curve -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 PM, erroneus for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I suggest you read these instructions (ignore the ubuntu bias); http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu If that's a whole new world, you will find it an interesting learning curve It's not a whole new world, but it's not something I've done in a long while. I would love it if someone were to explain what everything there does and why they are doing it like that. When I went to compile the things myself, I kept getting gegl and/or bebl versions not correct even though I had just compiled those libraries as the newest. It keeps identifying the other versions I have installed instead. (Would it be best to uninstall those? I suppose I should try) It's nice to have here's what you do but when accompanied with what it means and why, then you have real learning. I think CentOS uses gtk+ 2.x. So you shouldn't have to mess with system files. Suppose you want to build and install Gimp 2.8 in $HOME/opt. So that we don't mess with system libraries ( seems like you have gegl/babl installed already), we will ask Gimp to look somewhere else. Export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/gimp-2.8/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH Now make babl (which has minimal dependencies. Something like: cd babl ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/gimp-2.8 make; make install cd gegl ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/gimp-2.8 --disable-docs make; make install cd gimp ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/gimp-2.8 make; make install Now you should have gimp 2.8 installed in $HOME/opt/gimp-2.8 To run gimp, simply do: $HOME/opt/gimp-2.8/bin/gimp and you should be good to go. Hope that helps. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu Just so you know... I just removed the BABL and GEGL libraries from my system and attempted to build exactly as the instructions say I should... well, it says: checking for GLIB - version = 2.28.0... no *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed. configure: error: *** GLIB 2.28.0 or better is required. The latest version of *** GLIB is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/. I think I will give this a try after dinner... the wife' strongly hinting that I should eat. I wonder if I will be able to build a conflicting version of GLIB in the /opt/gimp-2.8 tree without other issues. You need to build things in the selected build directory, babl, gegl and gimp If glib and gtk versions are too low, you need to build those and their dependancies in the selected directory. DO NOT BUILD IN /usr or /usr/local Make sure that the console you are working is the console that you have exported the paths as per the gimp users tutorial. That way, looking for libraries ensures the first searched path is your build directory, not /usr or /usr/local -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:02 AM, erroneus wrote: Why would developers choose to shut us out like this? We don't do any Linux packaging. We encourage you to become the first team member who does it. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?
I've been looking all over but there are just no CentOS (or RHEL for that matter) packages for the latest version of GiMP. Compiling from source doesn't even seem to be a good option either as it looks as if it will break the whole OS the way things are set up. This is no way to build an application! Applications and OSes should never be tied so closely together. I like GiMP 2.8 for Windows a lot and would prefer to run it under CentOS as that is my main desktop OS. I have given up on Fedora because of the unholy abomination GNOME has become. Packaging is not a developers problem, talk to the CentOS people? I have a KDE version of Fedora 17, 2.8 came with that. Also have Gnome and XFCE versions of Fedora 17, prefer the KDE. -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
