Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]

2013-06-16 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:40:34 -0500
> From: jnagyjr1...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]
> 
> > On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> > How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a
> > ten-seconds-ago mistake?  I can't personally name a single application
> > that stores undo history with the document's workfile; but if you can,
> > let me know.
> 
> Office software, when you set it to display revisions, in a way saves 
> undo history.

Come to think of it, I've used that.  MS Word's "Track Changes" feature turns 
out to be quite useful when you're proofreading someone else's copy.  But it is 
not a full undo history, just a diff between the original (oldest) and revised 
(newest) copies.


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Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]

2013-06-16 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr

On 06/15/13 22:38, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
From: schum...@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?

. . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history . . .


How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a
ten-seconds-ago mistake?  I can't personally name a single application
that stores undo history with the document's workfile; but if you can,
let me know.


"no-one swims across the river here so we don't need a bridge"?

I've used commercial software that stored editing history in a database
- you can go back through the entire history of most aircraft manuals
and see all the edits, for example, for obvious legal reasons.

I've many times wished I could save undo history - e.g. I'm
experimenting, but my flight is boarding or my battery is low.

Liam




Office software, when you set it to display revisions, in a way saves 
undo history.


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Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]

2013-06-15 Thread Archie Arevalo

On 06/16/2013 11:38 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
From: schum...@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?

. . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history . . .

How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a
ten-seconds-ago mistake?  I can't personally name a single application
that stores undo history with the document's workfile; but if you can,
let me know.

"no-one swims across the river here so we don't need a bridge"?

I've used commercial software that stored editing history in a database
- you can go back through the entire history of most aircraft manuals
and see all the edits, for example, for obvious legal reasons.

I've many times wished I could save undo history - e.g. I'm
experimenting, but my flight is boarding or my battery is low.

Liam


Think about it. Undo history can actually save some users the hassle of 
an overlooked mistake. It's there quietly sitting in the corner not 
really berating the workflow. It's not like it's really affecting a 
smooth workflow.


Archie
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Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]

2013-06-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
> > From: schum...@gmx.de
> > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
> > 
> > . . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history . . .
> 
> How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a
> ten-seconds-ago mistake?  I can't personally name a single application
> that stores undo history with the document's workfile; but if you can,
> let me know.

"no-one swims across the river here so we don't need a bridge"?

I've used commercial software that stored editing history in a database
- you can go back through the entire history of most aircraft manuals
and see all the edits, for example, for obvious legal reasons.

I've many times wished I could save undo history - e.g. I'm
experimenting, but my flight is boarding or my battery is low.

Liam


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