Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:46:00 +0800 > From: ngoonee.t...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop > > what 'community' and 'user base' is this that you speak > of? All I see is some individuals with

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: > On 07/12/2012 09:46 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > [...] > >> Opensource always has been a meritocracy, not a democracy. > > Except when it's a dictatorship, i.e. Ubuntu is owned outright by > Mark Shuttleworth and users saw the handwriting on the wa

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/12/2012 09:46 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: [...] > Opensource always has been a meritocracy, not a democracy. Except when it's a dictatorship, i.e. Ubuntu is owned outright by Mark Shuttleworth and users saw the handwriting on the wall months before the Unity debacle surfaced, when he announced he

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:40 PM, drankinatty wrote: > Now we find ourselves in a situation where the community and user base has > made clear their preference for the 2.6 style open/save dialog that preserves > the choice of the user to save in whatever format they choose, but now > develope

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/12/2012 04:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote: > On 07/12/2012 05:40 PM, drankinatty wrote: [...] > You aren't going to like Windows 8... and this ain't open source(*) > > (*) yes, there is also the case of Unity... OH GHOD don't get me started on Unity. Long story short, when Ubuntu 10.4 reaches EOL,

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Ofnuts
On 07/12/2012 05:40 PM, drankinatty wrote: This is why open-source fails to gain wider acceptance. When 1-2 developers can change the traditional behavior of an application to suit their taste and then force the change on thousands of users without the courtesy of soliciting user input, rel

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM, drankinatty wrote: > The logical solution here is simple. Simply meet the needs of both those > who like the old style dialogs and those that like the new by providing the > _option_ to select which type dialog behavior to use. The code for each is > already t

[Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-12 Thread drankinatty
Gimp Devs, I have used gimp for many years and appreciate the work you have done. However, with the 2.8 release, for the first time in a decade, I was sorely disappointed in the direction the package had gone. Immediately apparent was the file/save dialog changes that interject unnecessary ex