Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[Juan Jose Casafranca]

That is the point. Askibg which raw processor to use when decoding the raw
file for showing the preview and thumbnail.

Anyway, I have been trying to understand the code and doing a todo list and
it looks like a lot of work just for me (as I dont understand the code).
The todo list is:
-Add code to generate the thumbnail when thumbnails are being created (this
is easy and its done, although in a very bad manner)
-Schedule thumbnail creation when a raw file OR the file where the edition
is saved are modified. This is not done and I dont know how to do it. Maybe
a new table in the database where we stored the edition files and the image
file which are related to. When an edition file is changed, schedule an
update for the image.
-Being able to show several thumbnails for a single raw file is several
editions coexist. Maybe the previous approach can do this also.
-Config for selecting the raw processor.

Without some help from a experienced developer its impossible for me to do
all this tasks in a correct, bugfree and eficient way. So unless a
developer wants to help me with support, docs and code, and I know they
have other roadmap, Ill have to leave the project, as I dont have enough
time for solving those task in my own.

Thanks!

El 20 ene. 2017 21:09, "Alexandre Prokoudine" <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> escribió:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:15 PM, J Albrecht wrote:
>
> > For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement:
> digiKam is a
> > brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on where it is
> brilliant rather
> > than trying to craft it into an all-singing-all-dancing piece of
> bloatware comprising
> > relatively mediocre modules just for the sake of doing so. In the FOSS
> realm,
> > digikam is an excellent Digital Asset Management program, darktable is,
> IMHO,
> > the best Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for post-processing. It’s
> folly and
> > perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled
> by using
> > only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.
>
> ..or you could politely ask whether having a switch for the preferable
> raw plug-in is planned for GIMP (hint: it is).
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[J Albrecht]

> On 15 Jan 2017, at 08:05, Alexandre Prokoudine 
>  wrote:
> 
> ..or you could politely ask whether having a switch for the preferable
> raw plug-in is planned for GIMP (hint: it is).

That’s the the kind of collaboration that we’re talkin’ about!!

Thanks in advance, GIMP devs :-)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:15 PM, J Albrecht wrote:

> For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement: 
> digiKam is a
> brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on where it is 
> brilliant rather
> than trying to craft it into an all-singing-all-dancing piece of bloatware 
> comprising
> relatively mediocre modules just for the sake of doing so. In the FOSS realm,
> digikam is an excellent Digital Asset Management program, darktable is, IMHO,
> the best Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for post-processing. It’s folly 
> and
> perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled by 
> using
> only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.

..or you could politely ask whether having a switch for the preferable
raw plug-in is planned for GIMP (hint: it is).

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[Juan Jose Casafranca]

And that is my intentionm not replacing the raw editoe but calling the
external one to receive the edited image

El 13 ene. 2017 5:01 PM, "cerp"  escribió:

> Dear all,
>
> Then we would need to have a fork for RawTherapee, one for LightZone
> (which I both prefer to Darktable for RAF file editing) and so on 
> would it not be better to have a mechanism to use the preferred editor?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Quoting Andrey Goreev :
>
> I agree 100% but digikam devs have their own point of view on how the
>> program should look like and we need to respect it.
>> This is how fork projects appear. If it is not too complicated to replace
>> libraw with darktable a fork could be not a bad idea.
>> Someone will have to maintain it though, new versions of both digikam and
>> darktable come out pretty frequently.
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>  Original message From: Juan Jose Casafranca <
>> jjcas...@gmail.com> Date: 2017-01-13  8:29 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: digiKam -
>> Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open
>> source  Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org,
>> darktable-user  Subject: Re: Digikam
>> raw files and darktable
>> Thanks Albrecht, that's exactly my opinion and the reason I want to
>> develop this module :-)
>> 2017-01-12 15:15 GMT+01:00 J Albrecht :
>>
>> On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca 
>> wrote:
>> They need a way to organize
>> their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files, which
>> DT is
>> good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library
>> management).
>> For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement:
>> digiKam is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on
>> where it is brilliant rather than trying to craft it into an
>> all-singing-all-dancing piece of bloatware comprising relatively mediocre
>> modules just for the sake of doing so. In the FOSS realm, digikam is an
>> excellent Digital Asset Management program, darktable is, IMHO, the best
>> Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for post-processing. It’s folly and
>> perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled by
>> using only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.
>> Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[Juan Jose Casafranca]

Thanks Albrecht, that's exactly my opinion and the reason I want to develop
this module :-)

2017-01-12 15:15 GMT+01:00 J Albrecht :

>
> On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca  wrote:
>
> They need a way to organize
> their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files, which
> DT is
> good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library
> management).
>
>
> For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement:
> digiKam is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on
> where it is brilliant rather than trying to craft it into an
> all-singing-all-dancing piece of bloatware comprising relatively mediocre
> modules just for the sake of doing so. In the FOSS realm, digikam is an
> excellent Digital Asset Management program, darktable is, IMHO, the best
> Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for post-processing. It’s folly and
> perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled by
> using only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.
>
> Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[Andrey Goreev]

I agree 100% but digikam devs have their own point of view on how the program 
should look like and we need to respect it.
This is how fork projects appear. If it is not too complicated to replace 
libraw with darktable a fork could be not a bad idea.
Someone will have to maintain it though, new versions of both digikam and 
darktable come out pretty frequently.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Juan Jose Casafranca 
 Date: 2017-01-13  8:29 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: digiKam - Home 
Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source 
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org, darktable-user 
 Subject: Re: Digikam raw files and 
darktable 
Thanks Albrecht, that's exactly my opinion and the reason I want to develop 
this module :-)
2017-01-12 15:15 GMT+01:00 J Albrecht :

On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca  wrote:
They need a way to organize 
their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files, which DT is 
good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library 
management).
For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement: digiKam 
is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on where it is 
brilliant rather than trying to craft it into an all-singing-all-dancing piece 
of bloatware comprising relatively mediocre modules just for the sake of doing 
so. In the FOSS realm, digikam is an excellent Digital Asset Management 
program, darktable is, IMHO, the best Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for 
post-processing. It’s folly and perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users 
would willingly be hobbled by using only one program simply because they are 
“loyal” to that program.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….

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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[cerp]

Dear Juan Jose,

I think it is an interesting concept particularly if the plugin  
allowed to chose every time from a series of possible RAW editors.


Best,



Quoting Juan Jose Casafranca :


And that is my intentionm not replacing the raw editoe but calling the
external one to receive the edited image

El 13 ene. 2017 5:01 PM, "cerp"  escribió:


Dear all,

Then we would need to have a fork for RawTherapee, one for LightZone
(which I both prefer to Darktable for RAF file editing) and so on 
would it not be better to have a mechanism to use the preferred editor?

Best Regards

Quoting Andrey Goreev :

I agree 100% but digikam devs have their own point of view on how the

program should look like and we need to respect it.
This is how fork projects appear. If it is not too complicated to replace
libraw with darktable a fork could be not a bad idea.
Someone will have to maintain it though, new versions of both digikam and
darktable come out pretty frequently.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Juan Jose Casafranca <
jjcas...@gmail.com> Date: 2017-01-13  8:29 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: digiKam -
Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open
source  Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org,
darktable-user  Subject: Re: Digikam
raw files and darktable
Thanks Albrecht, that's exactly my opinion and the reason I want to
develop this module :-)
2017-01-12 15:15 GMT+01:00 J Albrecht :

On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca 
wrote:
They need a way to organize
their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files, which
DT is
good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library
management).
For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement:
digiKam is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on
where it is brilliant rather than trying to craft it into an
all-singing-all-dancing piece of bloatware comprising relatively mediocre
modules just for the sake of doing so. In the FOSS realm, digikam is an
excellent Digital Asset Management program, darktable is, IMHO, the best
Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for post-processing. It’s folly and
perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled by
using only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….










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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[cerp]

Dear all,

Then we would need to have a fork for RawTherapee, one for LightZone  
(which I both prefer to Darktable for RAF file editing) and so on   
would it not be better to have a mechanism to use the preferred editor?


Best Regards

Quoting Andrey Goreev :

I agree 100% but digikam devs have their own point of view on how  
the program should look like and we need to respect it.
This is how fork projects appear. If it is not too complicated to  
replace libraw with darktable a fork could be not a bad idea.
Someone will have to maintain it though, new versions of both  
digikam and darktable come out pretty frequently.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Juan Jose Casafranca  
 Date: 2017-01-13  8:29 AM  (GMT-07:00) To:  
digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the  
power of open source  Cc:  
gimp-user-list@gnome.org, darktable-user  
 Subject: Re: Digikam raw files  
and darktable
Thanks Albrecht, that's exactly my opinion and the reason I want to  
develop this module :-)

2017-01-12 15:15 GMT+01:00 J Albrecht :

On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca  wrote:
They need a way to organize 
their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files,  
which DT is 

good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library 
management).
For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above  
statement: digiKam is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain  
the focus on where it is brilliant rather than trying to craft it  
into an all-singing-all-dancing piece of bloatware comprising  
relatively mediocre modules just for the sake of doing so. In the  
FOSS realm, digikam is an excellent Digital Asset Management  
program, darktable is, IMHO, the best Raw editor and GIMP is  
unparalleled for post-processing. It’s folly and perhaps a bit  
arrogant to assume that Users would willingly be hobbled by using  
only one program simply because they are “loyal” to that program.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….




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Re: [Gimp-user] Digikam raw files and darktable

[J Albrecht]

> On 07 Jan 2017, at 09:41, Juan Jose Casafranca  wrote:
> 
> They need a way to organize
> their library, which DK is good at, and a way to process raw files, which DT 
> is
> good at (DK is not a good raw processor and DT is not good for library
> management).

For the Developer’s benefit, I’d like to reiterate the above statement: digiKam 
is a brilliant program but please, let’s maintain the focus on where it is 
brilliant rather than trying to craft it into an all-singing-all-dancing piece 
of bloatware comprising relatively mediocre modules just for the sake of doing 
so. In the FOSS realm, digikam is an excellent Digital Asset Management 
program, darktable is, IMHO, the best Raw editor and GIMP is unparalleled for 
post-processing. It’s folly and perhaps a bit arrogant to assume that Users 
would willingly be hobbled by using only one program simply because they are 
“loyal” to that program.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just all get along….


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