Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-28 Thread Marc Lehmann

On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 12:12:23PM -0400, "Robert B. Easter" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thats about all I know about it.  Gtk-Perl complained when it was missing.  Its

Both Gtk-Perl and Gimp-Perl build without PDL. Gtk-Perl doesn't need it
for anything really, and Gimp-Perl installs seven plug-ins less if it
fails to find PDL.

(Also, you do not need ExtUtils::F77 to build PDL).

However, the original mail is a very good HOWOT Install that %&§%&§ Gimp,
really ;)

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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-25 Thread Robert B. Easter

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Erunantion wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Robert B. Easter wrote:
> 
> > I managed to download everything and compile and install gimp 1.1.20.  I'm
> > NOT having the problem with the coordinates turning into a mess of black. 
> > Installing gimp was a pain though.  I had to install/reinstall a whole mess of
> > libraries.  Maybe by installing newer versions of libraries, I avoided the
> > problem with the coordinates.  Here are my notes on what I did to install gimp:
> 
> Yeah, those libraries create problems :) What exactly is PDL used
> for? It's the only package I haven't gotten yet.

Here's part of what the README file says:

--
PDL -- the package
--

The perlDL project aims to turn perl into an efficient numerical language for
scientific computing. The PDL module gives standard perl the ability to
COMPACTLY store and SPEEDILY manipulate the large N-dimensional data sets which
are the bread and butter of scientific computing. e.g. $a=$b+$c can add two
2048x2048 images in only a fraction of a second.

The aim is to provide tons of useful functionality for
scientific and numeric analysis.

Check the pdl web site at http://pdl.perl.org for more information.


Thats about all I know about it.  Gtk-Perl complained when it was missing.  Its
need by perl programs that do pixel manipulation. Some version of it may have
been installed with my slackware distribution (7.0), but I totally deleted my
original perl installation and installed perl 5.6.0.  So, I've had to install
many perl modules that other people may already have.




Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-25 Thread Erunantion

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Robert B. Easter wrote:

> I managed to download everything and compile and install gimp 1.1.20.  I'm
> NOT having the problem with the coordinates turning into a mess of black. 
> Installing gimp was a pain though.  I had to install/reinstall a whole mess of
> libraries.  Maybe by installing newer versions of libraries, I avoided the
> problem with the coordinates.  Here are my notes on what I did to install gimp:

Yeah, those libraries create problems :) What exactly is PDL used
for? It's the only package I haven't gotten yet.

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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-25 Thread Robert B. Easter

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Erunantion wrote:
> Though speaking of the x & y coordinates, I've always had the same problem
> with them: namely, the coords appear, but don't clear the old coords upon
> mouse movement. They end up being a big mess of black. They still do this
> in the newest cvs of the 1.2 prerelease.
> 

I managed to download everything and compile and install gimp 1.1.20.  I'm
NOT having the problem with the coordinates turning into a mess of black. 
Installing gimp was a pain though.  I had to install/reinstall a whole mess of
libraries.  Maybe by installing newer versions of libraries, I avoided the
problem with the coordinates.  Here are my notes on what I did to install gimp:

Required packages:

gimp-1.1.20.tar.gz
GIMP.
Available at www.freshmeat.net


gtk+-1.2.7.tar.gz
The Gimp Tool Kit.  A library for creating graphical user
interfaces.  Requires glib-1.2.7.tar.gz
Available at www.gtk.org

glib-1.2.7.tar.gz
A support library of C routines for lists, hashes, memory
allocation and other things.
Available in the same place as gtk.

Perl Extension: 
Gtk-Perl-0.6123.tar.gz
The Perl interface to Gtk.  The Gimp perl extension
requires this.  Available at www.gtk.org. Requires PDL. 
Install gtk first.  
PDL 1.9906 or higher (2.005 ok)
Perl Data Language.  Needed for perl scripts that do 
pixel
manipulation.  Available at www.CPAN.org
At CPAN, you will have to download whatever else it 
requires:
ExtUtils::F77
File::Spec

imlib 1.9.7
The Image files libraries.  If they are not installed,
go get them. Search lycos for "imlib"
www.labs.redhat.com/imlib/
This is needed for lots of things.  It will also
generate libgdk_imlib*


1.  Ensure that all traces of libgimp, libgtk and libglib are removed
from /usr/lib and /usr/include AND /usr/bin (gtk-config).
Remove old man pages from /usr/man: man1, rm gtk* gdk*

This isn't too important if you install everything
--prefix=/usr
this way, it will add to/replace old stuff.

(OK)

2. Install glib
cd glib-1.2.7
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install

Check for /usr/bin/glib-config

ldconfig

(OK)

3.  Install PDL.

Install whatever PDL depends on first: ExtUtils::F77 and File::Spec
(available at www.cpan.org)

perl Makefile.PL
make
make test
make install

(OK)

cd PDL-2.005
perl Makefile.PL
make
Note: it will look for OpenGL/Mesa3D/GLu etc libraries.
Make sure they are either not installed or installed
correctly.  If it finds /usr/include/GL it will think
its installed.  If OpenGL is not installed right, then
edit the config file and disable opengl.
make test
make install
(OK)

4.  Install gtk/gdk

cd gtk+-1.2.7
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install

Check for /usr/bin/gtk-config

(OK)

5.  Install Imlib 1.9.7
creates:
/usr/lib/libimlib*
/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib*
/usr/bin/imlib-config
/usr/share/aclocal/imlib*
/usr/include/..

cd imlib-1.9.7
./configure --prefix=/usr
Note: If it fails to find gdk and you just install it,
then you might need to run
ldconfig
rm config.cache

make
make install
(OK)

6.  Install the Gtk-Perl interface.
perl Makefile.PL
make
make test
make install
(OK)

7.  Install gimp.

cd gimp-1.1.20
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/gimp
Note:
GtkXMHTML may not be found.  You have to download
the gnome-libs-1.x.x.

Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread Erunantion

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Robert B. Easter wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Oliver Bienert wrote:
> > Robert,
> > 
> > IMHO you do not need to cvs the gimp. Just get the latest release (1.1.19 or
> > 1.1.20, I think) and do ./configure, make, make install.
> > In my 1.1.18, I have the x,y coordinates in the lower left corner of the window
> > containing my image.
> > 
> > Have fun, Oliver
> > 
> 
> I've looked for the lastest version at www.gimp.org.  It lists the latest
> version as 1.0.4.  The developer version is only available via cvs.  Where can
> I download it otherwise?
> 

If you go to the webpage http://gimp.org/devel_cvs.html and scroll down,
there's instructions on how to get the cvs version of gimp. Or you could
go to ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ and into one of the subdirectories
there. Both ways work just as well.

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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread Erunantion

I always get the cvs version, unless there's a new developers release the
day I decide to upgrade gimp. I've never had a problem with getting the
cvs versions to compile (well, except when they're broken, which doesn't
happen often). To do this, I just run "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr" and it
all works out. Of course, that's in RedHat 6.1, so depending on your
flavor of OS, it may be different.

Though speaking of the x & y coordinates, I've always had the same problem
with them: namely, the coords appear, but don't clear the old coords upon
mouse movement. They end up being a big mess of black. They still do this
in the newest cvs of the 1.2 prerelease.

==
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 The Annals of Middle-earth 
<"http://rush.baked.net/~jerbel/">
 E-mail me at <"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
==

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Oliver Bienert wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> IMHO you do not need to cvs the gimp. Just get the latest release (1.1.19 or
> 1.1.20, I think) and do ./configure, make, make install.
> In my 1.1.18, I have the x,y coordinates in the lower left corner of the window
> containing my image.
> 
> Have fun, Oliver
> 
> Am Mon, 24 Apr 2000 schrieben Sie:
> > I used cvs to checkout a copy of the developer version of gimp because I want to
> > try some new features.  No configure script was included.  I installed
> > autoconf and automake from gnu.org and tried a few things, but no luck. 
> > automake will complain about variables not defined and directories missing. 
> > What are the commands to compile it?
> > 
> > I'd like to find a compilable version that has the new feature that shows the
> > x,y coordinates.
> > 
> > On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM
> > > Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y
> > > coordinates
> > > > where the mouse is.  When dragging to create a rectangle some will show
> > > the
> > > > x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in
> > > the
> > > > box being made.  With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't
> > > > give me exact coordinates.  Is there a way to add a status line to an
> > > > editing window that will show the x,y coordinates?
> > > 
> > > The latest (unstable) versions have this feature.
> > > 
> > > > Robert B. Easter
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)
> > -- 
> > Robert B. Easter
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- 
> Oliver Bienert
> Phone: 030-47475624
> eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent by KMail
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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread alex

Hi !

"Robert B. Easter" wrote:

>
> I've looked for the lastest version at www.gimp.org.  It lists the latest
> version as 1.0.4.  The developer version is only available via cvs.  Where can
> I download it otherwise?

You should look for "unstable" version. Here the link:
 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.1/v1.1.20/gimp-data-extras-1.1.20.tar.gz
If you didn't use 1.1.* versions before, probably you also will need in additional
libraries
from this site.

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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread Robert B. Easter

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Oliver Bienert wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> IMHO you do not need to cvs the gimp. Just get the latest release (1.1.19 or
> 1.1.20, I think) and do ./configure, make, make install.
> In my 1.1.18, I have the x,y coordinates in the lower left corner of the window
> containing my image.
> 
> Have fun, Oliver
> 

I've looked for the lastest version at www.gimp.org.  It lists the latest
version as 1.0.4.  The developer version is only available via cvs.  Where can
I download it otherwise?



Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread Oliver Bienert

Robert,

IMHO you do not need to cvs the gimp. Just get the latest release (1.1.19 or
1.1.20, I think) and do ./configure, make, make install.
In my 1.1.18, I have the x,y coordinates in the lower left corner of the window
containing my image.

Have fun, Oliver

Am Mon, 24 Apr 2000 schrieben Sie:
> I used cvs to checkout a copy of the developer version of gimp because I want to
> try some new features.  No configure script was included.  I installed
> autoconf and automake from gnu.org and tried a few things, but no luck. 
> automake will complain about variables not defined and directories missing. 
> What are the commands to compile it?
> 
> I'd like to find a compilable version that has the new feature that shows the
> x,y coordinates.
> 
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM
> > Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?
> > 
> > 
> > > Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y
> > coordinates
> > > where the mouse is.  When dragging to create a rectangle some will show
> > the
> > > x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in
> > the
> > > box being made.  With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't
> > > give me exact coordinates.  Is there a way to add a status line to an
> > > editing window that will show the x,y coordinates?
> > 
> > The latest (unstable) versions have this feature.
> > 
> > > Robert B. Easter
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)
> -- 
> Robert B. Easter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Phone: 030-47475624
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Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-24 Thread Robert B. Easter

I used cvs to checkout a copy of the developer version of gimp because I want to
try some new features.  No configure script was included.  I installed
autoconf and automake from gnu.org and tried a few things, but no luck. 
automake will complain about variables not defined and directories missing. 
What are the commands to compile it?

I'd like to find a compilable version that has the new feature that shows the
x,y coordinates.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM
> Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?
> 
> 
> > Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y
> coordinates
> > where the mouse is.  When dragging to create a rectangle some will show
> the
> > x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in
> the
> > box being made.  With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't
> > give me exact coordinates.  Is there a way to add a status line to an
> > editing window that will show the x,y coordinates?
> 
> The latest (unstable) versions have this feature.
> 
> > Robert B. Easter
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-23 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM
Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?


> Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y
coordinates
> where the mouse is.  When dragging to create a rectangle some will show
the
> x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in
the
> box being made.  With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't
> give me exact coordinates.  Is there a way to add a status line to an
> editing window that will show the x,y coordinates?

The latest (unstable) versions have this feature.

> Robert B. Easter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)