[GO] Setting the record straight

2004-11-15 Thread Diane Purkiss
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I *had* kind wondered who these 'positive messages' had come from - I was 
sort of expecting they'd been Handed Down From On High.

Well, (on a point of honour, Madam moderator) I was one of those who
emailed Eleanor interestedly and supportively (said she, owning up in
the best traditions of GO.)  

I found it interesting and instructive to hear a different political
perspective; nearly everyone US I know (outside GO) voted for Kerry.  

I think it's scary that people - in and outside GO - seem to have
stopped being willing to listen to any views other than the ones they
hold already.  My father used to joke, 'Don't confuse me with facts, my
mind is made up.'  Please confuse me with facts, GO.  My mind could
always do with a little more opening.  
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[GO] Tolerance

2004-11-14 Thread Diane Purkiss
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NB: Sue, what is true tolerance as opposed to laxness?  I  mean, how can
you tell? 

Well, I suppose I'm not authorised to do so (Judge not...), but in  principle 
I'd say that if it hurts, it's tolerance. The word is  from 'tuli', the 
perfect tense of 'ferre' (IIRC), meaning 'to bear' -  like bearing a burden.

Qui tollis peccata mundi, then.  So to tolerate a sin is to bear its
burden - and bear it away? - from the sinner?  Fascinating.  Much more
interesting than what I was getting at.  

I suppose what I meant was can you tolerate something while trying to
convert/change/reprieve/expel it or them?  If eg I tolerate kids letting
off fireworks in my street in the sense of saying 'Boys will be boys'
through gritted teeth, but also mention it to their parents or the
police, has my tolerance failed?  

Bringing this back on topic, this too is a common GO dilemma; what is
tolerance and what is merely slack, as in Dimsie Head Girl.  
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[GO] Books and knives

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss

Another thing about books and Feng Shui is that the space on a shelf, at the
edge, can be considered a knife...not a good thing thing in Feng Shui.  To help
to manage that energy, books should be lined flush with the edge of a shelf,
not pushed back on the shelf with space between the edge of the shelf and the
books.

I suppose this is really no weirder than me kissing a glass case
containing the bones of St Philip Neri.  But it FEELS weirder.  Why
can't it be a shelf

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[GO] Buffy/Jonathan

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
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Jonathan's speech when presenting that daft
 umbrella at the Prom get me every time:

Is this the same Jonathan who's part of the three villains later?

He's in a lot of episodes.  A few examples: In Inca Mummy Girl the Inca
Princess tries to drain him; there's an episode where he decides to gun
down everyone from the Clock Tower; and (my favourite) in Series 4
there's a wonderful alternate reality episode called Super Star in which
everyone adores him and looks up to him and he's the one who saves the
world (a lot).  And yes, he's one of the Three.  

And yes, I am a total Buffy nerd.  I am gearing up to buy Series 1-7 on
DVD later this month by eating a lot of lettuce and toast :).  

Buffy talk reminds me to ask if any GO people have read a series of
high-school books called The Clique.  
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[GO] Buffy - ON topic, I claim stoutly

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
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Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what
peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike
relationship question.  Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy
to go off-list!)

I think Buffy is a GO text, even though it's a. tv and b. often teen
romance.  The first three series are set at school, and many of the
themes-and-issues are VERY GO - friendship and its limits, popularity
and its price, public duty versus private pleasure.  School stories
often have Gothic elements - many of Brazil's do, and there was The
Silent Three.  As well, the adventure/detecting aspect of Buffy also
drives many a GO plot.  And finally, Buffy is an entirely GO girl -
ringleader, tomboy and chum to the weak.  (Rather silken, too, but let
that pass.)  

Hence Angel and Spike are GO too, and as such very, very recognisable.

Am I the only one to see a passing resemblance between Angel and Patrick
Merrick - not just in the sense of being hotties, but a kind of
structural resemblance?  Both are the outsider that anchor the group
(The Marlow Family, the Scoobies), male where the group is
(predominantly) female, though in both groups the masculinity of the
outsider is emphasised because there is one male who struggles to seem
masculine enough in both groups (Peter, Xander). Both Angel and Patrick
are somehow doomed figures from the getgo, both are morally ambiguous,
and both are potentially deadly.  Both also carry a weight of cultural
memory, a knowingness from the past.

Spike, otoh, is straight from another kind of literature altogether, the
realist novel of the Angry Young Men, and the whole point of him is that
he really has no proper place in the Buffyverse socially, which is why
he carries such a strong sexual charge of alienness and difference. 

So after all that faffling, I liked both relationships and thought they
both worked superbly in different ways.  
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[GO] Girlsown Digest, Vol 6, Issue 75 - yes all of it - truly

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
Well, after hearing from our honestly beloved leaders, but even more
after reading this digest, I'm no longer fearful that GO will become
wishy-washy or that its members will avoid controversy.  I have Now
Calmed Down.  

NB: Sue, what is true tolerance as opposed to laxness?  I mean, how can
you tell?  
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