[GO] Setting the record straight
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I *had* kind wondered who these 'positive messages' had come from - I was sort of expecting they'd been Handed Down From On High. Well, (on a point of honour, Madam moderator) I was one of those who emailed Eleanor interestedly and supportively (said she, owning up in the best traditions of GO.) I found it interesting and instructive to hear a different political perspective; nearly everyone US I know (outside GO) voted for Kerry. I think it's scary that people - in and outside GO - seem to have stopped being willing to listen to any views other than the ones they hold already. My father used to joke, 'Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.' Please confuse me with facts, GO. My mind could always do with a little more opening. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Tolerance
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes NB: Sue, what is true tolerance as opposed to laxness? I mean, how can you tell? Well, I suppose I'm not authorised to do so (Judge not...), but in principle I'd say that if it hurts, it's tolerance. The word is from 'tuli', the perfect tense of 'ferre' (IIRC), meaning 'to bear' - like bearing a burden. Qui tollis peccata mundi, then. So to tolerate a sin is to bear its burden - and bear it away? - from the sinner? Fascinating. Much more interesting than what I was getting at. I suppose what I meant was can you tolerate something while trying to convert/change/reprieve/expel it or them? If eg I tolerate kids letting off fireworks in my street in the sense of saying 'Boys will be boys' through gritted teeth, but also mention it to their parents or the police, has my tolerance failed? Bringing this back on topic, this too is a common GO dilemma; what is tolerance and what is merely slack, as in Dimsie Head Girl. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Books and knives
Another thing about books and Feng Shui is that the space on a shelf, at the edge, can be considered a knife...not a good thing thing in Feng Shui. To help to manage that energy, books should be lined flush with the edge of a shelf, not pushed back on the shelf with space between the edge of the shelf and the books. I suppose this is really no weirder than me kissing a glass case containing the bones of St Philip Neri. But it FEELS weirder. Why can't it be a shelf -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Buffy/Jonathan
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Jonathan's speech when presenting that daft umbrella at the Prom get me every time: Is this the same Jonathan who's part of the three villains later? He's in a lot of episodes. A few examples: In Inca Mummy Girl the Inca Princess tries to drain him; there's an episode where he decides to gun down everyone from the Clock Tower; and (my favourite) in Series 4 there's a wonderful alternate reality episode called Super Star in which everyone adores him and looks up to him and he's the one who saves the world (a lot). And yes, he's one of the Three. And yes, I am a total Buffy nerd. I am gearing up to buy Series 1-7 on DVD later this month by eating a lot of lettuce and toast :). Buffy talk reminds me to ask if any GO people have read a series of high-school books called The Clique. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Buffy - ON topic, I claim stoutly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike relationship question. Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy to go off-list!) I think Buffy is a GO text, even though it's a. tv and b. often teen romance. The first three series are set at school, and many of the themes-and-issues are VERY GO - friendship and its limits, popularity and its price, public duty versus private pleasure. School stories often have Gothic elements - many of Brazil's do, and there was The Silent Three. As well, the adventure/detecting aspect of Buffy also drives many a GO plot. And finally, Buffy is an entirely GO girl - ringleader, tomboy and chum to the weak. (Rather silken, too, but let that pass.) Hence Angel and Spike are GO too, and as such very, very recognisable. Am I the only one to see a passing resemblance between Angel and Patrick Merrick - not just in the sense of being hotties, but a kind of structural resemblance? Both are the outsider that anchor the group (The Marlow Family, the Scoobies), male where the group is (predominantly) female, though in both groups the masculinity of the outsider is emphasised because there is one male who struggles to seem masculine enough in both groups (Peter, Xander). Both Angel and Patrick are somehow doomed figures from the getgo, both are morally ambiguous, and both are potentially deadly. Both also carry a weight of cultural memory, a knowingness from the past. Spike, otoh, is straight from another kind of literature altogether, the realist novel of the Angry Young Men, and the whole point of him is that he really has no proper place in the Buffyverse socially, which is why he carries such a strong sexual charge of alienness and difference. So after all that faffling, I liked both relationships and thought they both worked superbly in different ways. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Girlsown Digest, Vol 6, Issue 75 - yes all of it - truly
Well, after hearing from our honestly beloved leaders, but even more after reading this digest, I'm no longer fearful that GO will become wishy-washy or that its members will avoid controversy. I have Now Calmed Down. NB: Sue, what is true tolerance as opposed to laxness? I mean, how can you tell? -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm