Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-14 Thread Ryan Anderson
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 02:11:50AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Ryan Anderson: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > echo "Don't get a git - use gt! > Ouch. :) I meant it as a joke, obviously. I also thinkoed the sentence I was aiming for, thus losing the humor. Oh well. > > echo "Do

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Junio C Hamano
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Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Junio C Hamano
Debian folks on the list: We had to make this ugly hack in our Debianization because Debian heavyweights did not like to see "Conflicts:" and us lowly new maintainers needed to obey their wishes. Linus: The alleged name clash appears to be a Debian specific problem. No oth

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Ryan Anderson: > > #!/bin/sh > echo "Don't get a git - use gt! Ouch. > echo "Don't get a git - use gt!" >&2 if at all. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Ryan Anderson
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 12:35:55PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > David Lang: > > after so many years of software development (and with the policy of never > > having conflicting command names) what three letter combinations are still > > avilable? > > > Lots. > > > I'm assuming that the much

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Martin Langhoff: > It is correct to have Architecture: i386, as you'd naturally have > multiple binary packages. However, git(-t)k doesn't contain any i386 code, just a tk script. > Packages with arch 'all' are interpreted languages. Exactly. ;-) -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
> I just noticed from "dpkg --info" output that the generated > git-tk has "Architecture: i386". Shouldn't it read "all" and > resulting package also named git-tk_${VERSION}_all.deb, instead > of whatever architecture I happened to build it? It is correct to have Architecture: i386, as you'd natu

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Split gitk off to its own package; > it needs tk installed, but nothing else does. I just noticed from "dpkg --info" output that the generated git-tk has "Architecture: i386". Shouldn't it read "all" and resulting package also named git-tk_${VER

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, David Lang: > after so many years of software development (and with the policy of never > having conflicting command names) what three letter combinations are still > avilable? > Lots. > I'm assuming that the much smaller pool of two letter commands was long > since exhausted, but if not

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread David Lang
s are available? David Lang On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:34:45 +0200 From: Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4 Hi, Alan Chandler wrote: Not sure I understand the proper use of

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Alan Chandler wrote: > Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could > _this_ git-core package perhaps ask the user which set of the two > packages he wish to keep as git command and use dpkg-divert to change > the other to another name to some other name? IIRC, t

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4 [u]

2005-08-12 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus [c]
On Thursday 11 August 2005 23:53, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this "I > have a package" crap. http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst #Format # # is the package name; # is the number of people who installed this package; # is the number o

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Linus Torvalds: > Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this "I > have a package" crap. > You're preaching to the converted here. The Debian-package-for-Debian could pop up a notice asking the user to symlink /usr/local/bin/git => /usr/bin/gitscm (or whatever) i

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Christian Meder
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 16:20 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this "I > > have a package" crap. > > Obviously no one on the git list uses GNU Interactive Tools, or this > problem wou

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>rank nameinstvote old recent >>6591 git 114 24 83 7 >>2 git-core 2 1 0 1 (Not in sid) >>29939 cogito-scm 1 0 1 0 (Not in sid) > > Thi

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this "I > have a package" crap. Obviously no one on the git list uses GNU Interactive Tools, or this problem would have been caught much sooner. It's only when you release it into the w

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > A small Debian-specific patch to rename the offending scripts (and drop > > the Conflicts: entries) is cheap. > > Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could > _this_ git-core package perhaps ask t

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Alan Chandler
Matthias Urlichs wrote: A small Debian-specific patch to rename the offending scripts (and drop the Conflicts: entries) is cheap. Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could _this_ git-core package perhaps ask the user which set of the two packages he wish to

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > What I have is bug reports against the cogito package, from people who > want to install both. The reports came very soon after I released the > package, so I dont think it's a totally freak occurance. The point is, people have the thing _ins

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not > mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). It's not "mandatory", but the tutorial etc use it as an example. In other words, if you remove the git script, you are going to have a _b

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 August 2005 15:11, Junio C Hamano wrote: >Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid >>> people, and I bet not just Debian people. >> >> Why do you say that? >> >> D

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another possible solution: Rename git's git to X and install ours as Y. > Ask the user which should be symlinked to /usr/bin/git, if both are > installed, via the existing "alternatives" system. I suggested this on debian-devel, and was told that updat

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sebastian Kuzminsky: > > The cg script has a bit more value. > > Tried that too, and I got the bug reports to prove it. ;-) > Another possible solution: Rename git's git to X and install ours as Y. Ask the user which should be symlinked to /usr/bin/git, if both are installed, via the existi

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:24:10PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Sam Ravnborg: > > > > > > Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm > > > ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. > > > > The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sam Ravnborg: > > > > Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm > > ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. > > The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not > mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). I'd vote to keep the sc

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm > > ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. > > The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not > mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). >

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sam Ravnborg
> > Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm > ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). The cg script has a bit more value. Sam - To

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >> >> People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, >> and I bet not just Debian people. > > Why do you say that? > > Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claim

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > > > People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, > > and I bet not just Debian people. > > Why do you say that? > > Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, > and I bet not just Debian people. Why do you say that? Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claiming so? Some distributions seems to disagree with yo

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, > and I bet not just Debian people. Possibly. But the number of people running both git and git are, I'd bet, smaller than those who will send annoying emails when they install git and can't r

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While we're at it, renaming cogito's "cg" to "cog" would fix another > filename conflict in Debian, and would give the right hand something to > do while the left hand seeks from c to g. ;-) Well, these days cogito ships without git, so maybe it

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The top man-page I found for GNU interactive tools says: > > A Set of Interactive Programs > Edition 2.5, for GIT version 4.3.16 > January 1997 > > just let it die in peace. The top of the RCS changelog says: Fri Jun 16 06:19:24

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > A Set of Interactive Programs > Edition 2.5, for GIT version 4.3.16 > January 1997 > > just let it die in peace. God have mercy over (old) GIT's soul. Amen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in th

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > Well, I doubt this problem lies with Debian. Oh, it definitely does. >GNU Interactive Tools is > packaged for most (all?) distributions, and has been there for ages. .. but no other distribution seems to install i

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/11/05, Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree completely - it's super bogus to rename the two central programs. > > It makes Debian essentially incompatible with the rest of the world. > > Well, I doubt this problem lies with De

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On 8/11/05, Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree completely - it's super bogus to rename the two central programs. > It makes Debian essentially incompatible with the rest of the world. Well, I doubt this problem lies with Debian. GNU Interactive Tools is packaged for most (all

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cogito 0.12.1 (which includes git) has been packaged by Sebastian > Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; it's in Debian Unstable. I assume > he'll do something about packaging the current version; I just filed a > wishlist bug in Debian. > > The current "cog

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Martin Langhoff: > On 8/11/05, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Debian packaging fixes for 0.99.4: > > Is this anywhere in the archive? > Cogito 0.12.1 (which includes git) has been packaged by Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; it's in Debian Unstable. I assume he'll do

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On 8/11/05, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian packaging fixes for 0.99.4: Is this anywhere in the archive? cheers, martin - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.