Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread Ceri Davies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2006-10-18, Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (4) In other places they claim they're doing this because GNU, Debian, and the BSDs are requiring copyright transfer as well [1]. Well I know that some GNU projects recommend it (emacs, libstdc++),

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2006-10-18, Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (4) In other places they claim they're doing this because GNU, Debian, and the BSDs are requiring copyright transfer as well [1]. Well I know that some GNU projects recommend it (emacs, libstdc++), but by

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread James Carlson
Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a related subject, we have developed a kernel mode driver for our Microsoft Wireless Optical Mice with Tilt Wheel Technology, complete with device file in /dev and all needed ioctls necessary for querying signal strength, battery life status, and other

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] benefitting the general public Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment regarding the public? http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/an-open-source-ceo-on-the-gplv3/#comments -- Crosbie Fitch // Oct 18th 2006 at 4:03 am

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] benefitting the general public Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment regarding the public? Just a rant, and obviously so.

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/off-the-record/#comments -- Dan Lyons // Oct 17th 2006 at 7:52 am Translation: Nothing to worry about here, folks. Just move along, Dan is replying there to a comment I posted. Dan's blog

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Qui, 2006-10-19 às 14:31 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu: The FSF does not even control ... http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt the intent is to ... control the distribution of derivative or collective works based on the Program. eh? How very manipulative of you. A pity you

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] intended by the licensor: yes, the copyright holder has the control There are limitations, such as free (of copyright control) distribution of copies lawfully made and free (of copyright control) modification, copying, and distribution of those additional exact

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] intended by the licensor: yes, the copyright holder has the control There are limitations, such as free (of copyright control) distribution of copies lawfully made and free (of copyright control) modification,

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread Drazen Kacar
James Carlson wrote: Open Solaris requries a joint copyright arrangement. You can read the details here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/sun_contributor_agreement/ As the author you, of course, retain your copyright interest. You don't have to give that away. Eh? But it

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] Dan's blog entry quoted a lawyer who's being consulted during the draftign of GPLv3 who said that parts of GPLv3 aren't legally sound. He said that GPLv3 draft is even worse than GPLv2 which nobody understands. The legally unsound bit was about the FSF position

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Go to doctor, mini-RMS. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First sale, moron. Wanna have a copy of Emacs (modified)under draconian EULA-style contract imposing forbearance from rights granted to users under the GPL and without an offer to obtain source code? Ten EUROs. You are drunk enough as it is. --

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] Dan's blog entry quoted a lawyer who's being consulted during the draftign of GPLv3 who said that parts of GPLv3 aren't legally sound. He said that GPLv3 draft is even worse than GPLv2 which nobody understands.

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread James Carlson
Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James Carlson wrote: Open Solaris requries a joint copyright arrangement. You can read the details here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/sun_contributor_agreement/ As the author you, of course, retain your copyright interest. You

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James Carlson wrote: Open Solaris requries a joint copyright arrangement. You can read the details here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/sun_contributor_agreement/ As the author you, of course, retain your copyright interest. You

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread Casper H . S . Dik
Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eh? But it says: You agree never to assert against Sun or its licensees or transferees any moral rights therein. That's void under my local copyright law, but the provision certainly is giving copyright rights away. And then: Why is that void in you

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] The legally unsound bit was about the FSF position regarding dynamic linking. Which is not codified in either license since Read the latest draft, moron. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Casper H.S. Dik writes: Why is that void in you rlocal law? (Just interested). In some jurisdictions you are not permitted to give up your moral rights. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ gnu-misc-discuss