Rahul Dhesi wrote:
Actually this by itself is not victory.
I'm not privy to the details of the settlement; it's possible
that more was done. As outside observers, availability of the
source is the only thing we can see.
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Hyman Rosen wrote:
Rahul Dhesi wrote:
Actually this by itself is not victory.
I'm not privy to the details of the settlement; it's possible
that more was done. As outside observers, availability of the
source is the only thing we can see.
Yeh. . . like when Verizon told 'em to kiss their
I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a
watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would
become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open
source' thinking that I work under that banner.; Richard Stallman
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/RMS
I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a
watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would
become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open
source' thinking that I work under that banner.; Richard Stallman
Rjack wrote:
Just like the history of open source software given by RMS
has become an urban legend
The (capitalized) Open Source movement was started in reaction
to the GPL and Free Software, notwithstanding the existence of
the BSD license. Open Source was conceived as being business-
Rjack wrote:
Yeh. . . like when Verizon told 'em to kiss their Tyrian purple ass?
http://www.terekhov.de/GPLvVerizon/VOLUNTARY_DISMISSAL.pdf
Not everyone succumbs to bullshit propaganda and intimidation.
Opponents of the GPL would like to believe that Verizon is
deliberately violating the
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a
watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would
become so well-known that people would ask me questions about
'open source' thinking that I work under that banner.; Richard
Stallman
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Rjack wrote:
Yeh. . . like when Verizon told 'em to kiss their Tyrian purple
ass? http://www.terekhov.de/GPLvVerizon/VOLUNTARY_DISMISSAL.pdf
Not everyone succumbs to bullshit propaganda and intimidation.
Opponents of the GPL would like to believe that Verizon is
Rjack wrote:
Proponents of the GPL would like to believe that Verizon gives a
royal rat's ass about the GPL -- but they don't. So get over it
Hyman. Why does Alexander have to explain things to you time and
time again?
Proponents of the GPL don't know what Verizon's reaction to the
GPL is.
Rjack wrote:
The conceptual underpinnings of open source and its benefits
predated ESR
Of course. It was those underpinnings that inspired Stallman to
invent his notion of free software, after all, when the openness
was taken away from him.
However, the (capitalized) Open Source movement was
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com wrote:
Rjack wrote:
The conceptual underpinnings of open source and its benefits
predated ESR
Of course. It was those underpinnings that inspired Stallman to
invent his notion of free software, after all, when the openness
was taken away from him.
However, the
The Computer Science Research Group (1977-1995) at Berkeley was one
of the root source communities underlying open source software.
Well, if you say so. But, RMS already was quite entwined in a
community that had existed since atleast ten years before that,
hacking on the ITS.
But hey,
Rjack wrote:
Just like the history of open source software given by RMS
has become an urban legend, so have his claims of the GPL's
legal enforceability become an imaginative legend passed on by
the cult of gullible RMS worshippers.
I'm posting your rants to Judge Judy.
Sincerely,
Rjack u...@example.net writes:
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a
watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would
become so well-known that people would ask me questions about
'open source' thinking that I work under that
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
It is also fair to point out that the Open Sourcerers and Freedom
people work together without (much) friction, since the core effort to
implement these philosophies is the same, namely writing good
software. For example, ESR has recently contributed to
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com writes:
Rahul Dhesi wrote:
Actually this by itself is not victory.
I'm not privy to the details of the settlement; it's possible
that more was done. As outside observers, availability of the
source is the only thing we can see.
Since we don't know the whole story,
Rahul Dhesi wrote:
Since we don't know the whole story, let's not assume victory.
I don't see why not. It remains a fact that anyone who now gets
an Actiontec router has the GPLed firmware source code available,
whereas that was once not true. That is a positive difference that
has occurred as
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com writes:
Rahul Dhesi wrote:
Since we don't know the whole story, let's not assume victory.
I don't see why not. It remains a fact that anyone who now gets
an Actiontec router has the GPLed firmware source code available,
whereas that was once not true. That is a
Rjack u...@example.net writes:
The conceptual underpinnings of open source and its benefits
predated ESR
They can't. open source is just a marketing campaign for free software.
You could argue that the concept of free software existed before RMS or
GNU. That seems to be what you are
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