Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-28 Thread Pete Chown
Alexander: thank you for contributing to my copyleft news post. I've added your name to the copyright statement. Now everyone will be free to use your ASCII art, subject to the terms of the GPL of course. ;-) Alexander Terekhov wrote: Copyright (c) 2008 Pete Chown and Alexander Terekhov.

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-27 Thread Pete Chown
Hi Trolls, I just realised, none of the GPL trolls dared to quote my GPL'd news post! Are you afraid of having to license your own post under the GPL, so starting the process of assimilation? Well I've got news for you! The process of assimilation is proceeding very nicely without your

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Halliwell
Pete Chown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I've got news for you! The process of assimilation is proceeding very nicely without your help. Why do you think no one has heard from Darl McBride recently? Is it because he resigned from SCO? Or is it because he has been assimilated into the

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Pete Chown wrote: Hi Trolls, [...] Copyright (c) 2008 Pete Chown. This post is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option)

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
It would be pleasent if those who try to advocate sofware freedom did not drop to the levels of the trolls, and used the same nasty tactics. Yes, the trolls are very nasty, be we are better than that, no? ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Pete Chown
Rjack wrote: I know . . . the GPL grabs the wife , the kids, the family dog and your SUV too. He. He. You have realised! Already we have assimilated your newsreader. Soon we will have your computer, and then we will have you! You may not believe it now, but in five years time you will be

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Chris Ahlstrom
After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit o' wisdom: On Sep 25, 1:25 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. If you have used a proprietary, third-party compiler to build the

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Rjack
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit o' wisdom: On Sep 25, 1:25 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. If you have used a proprietary, third-party compiler

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Moshe Goldfarb.
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:43:33 +0200, Hadron wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Ahlstrom wrote: After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit o' wisdom: On Sep 25, 1:25 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rjack wrote: My third party compiler is none of their damn business. The GPL attempts to insure that users of a program can run, read, change, and share it. In order for a user to be able to make changes and run the resulting program, he must be given

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
chrisv [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: I know . . . the GPL grabs the wife , the kids, the family dog and your SUV too. He. He. No. That would be copyright misuse. Someone grabbed the troll's brain, and didn't give it back. Not everybody keeps track of small

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Hadron
Moshe Goldfarb. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris is the group fluffer. He me toos to any one in need that he sees as an advocate. Often from the kneeling position. He used to have a brain of his own but I think it suffocated and withered when he spent too long with his head up Roy's arse

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be pleasent if those who try to advocate sofware freedom did not drop to the levels of the trolls, and used the same nasty tactics. Yes, the trolls are very nasty, be we are better than that, no? Quality is a secondary consideration. --

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread The Ghost In The Machine
On Sep 25, 8:22 pm, Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack wrote: You don't have to say anything at all about your compiler. Do so! http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html begin excerpts Section 1, Paragraph 3-5: The “System Libraries” of an executable work include anything, other than

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Peter Köhlmann
Rjack wrote: David Kastrup wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is more like it, since the

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-26 Thread Rjack
The Ghost In The Machine wrote: On Sep 25, 8:22 pm, Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack wrote: You don't have to say anything at all about your compiler. Do so! http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html begin excerpts The “Corresponding Source” for a work in object code form means all

Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
First the GPL gobbled up your source code, the wife, kids, family pets and your car. Now it gobbles up your compiler too. Alas! If they want my compiler, they'll have to pry it from my cold lifeless hands! To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is more like it, since the quoted passage explicitly says that the GPL does *not* gobble up your compiler.

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is more like it, since the quoted passage explicitly says that the

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: If you have used a proprietary, third-party compiler to build the software, then you probably cannot ship it to your customers. Sigh. The antecedent of it is the compiler, not the program. The document says that since you most likely cannot ship the compiler, you should provide

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
David Kastrup wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is more like it, since the quoted passage

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Peter Köhlmann wrote: Rjack wrote: David Kastrup wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is more

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Richard Tobin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My third party compiler is none of their damn business. I can paint it red, pee on it or give to charity -- it's simply none of their damn business. Feel free to try shipping Microsoft's C++ compiler with your program. The statement

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Richard Tobin wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My third party compiler is none of their damn business. I can paint it red, pee on it or give to charity -- it's simply none of their damn business. Feel free to try shipping Microsoft's C++ compiler with your

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Andrew Halliwell wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Tobin wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My third party compiler is none of their damn business. I can paint it red, pee on it or give to charity -- it's simply none of their damn business. Feel

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
The Ghost In The Machine wrote: OK, I'm missing something here. [2] GPL code + proprietary compiler = non-distributable binary precisely *why* is this the case? It's not the case. All that the document says is that since you can't distribute a non-free compiler, you just say what compiler you

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: it's none of your damn business I'm making it my business. You don't like it, don't use my code. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Andrew Halliwell wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is complete, 100% bullshit. You don't control commercial compilers so how do know? So... You're now claiming that you can re-distribute a commercial compiler? Do you KNOW what software piracy is? Do you know what a contract to

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: Do you know what a contract to distribute is? It's not the GPL, which is a license. Do you what the first sale doctrine is? Yes, it's completely orthogonal. If you own something which you are permitted to sell under the first sale doctrine, then you need no permission from the

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Hyman Rosen wrote: The Ghost In The Machine wrote: OK, I'm missing something here. [2] GPL code + proprietary compiler = non-distributable binary precisely *why* is this the case? It's not the case. All that the document says is that since you can't distribute a non-free compiler, you just

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Rjack
Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Do you know what a contract to distribute is? It's not the GPL, which is a license. Do you what the first sale doctrine is? Yes, it's completely orthogonal. If you own something which you are permitted to sell under the first sale doctrine, then you need no

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: I know . . . the GPL grabs the wife , the kids, the family dog and your SUV too. He. He. No. That would be copyright misuse. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread The Ghost In The Machine
On Sep 25, 1:25 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Now it gobbles up your compiler too. To wit: A Practical Guide to GPL Compliance http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html Witless is

Re: Now it's my compiler!

2008-09-25 Thread RonB
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:22:08 -0500, Rjack wrote: Don't insert your Hey, moron, if you don't like the GPL, don't involve yourself with it. Problem solved. It sounds to me you want it both ways. You want to use free source code, licensed under the GPL, and then you want to compile it and call