Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-05 Thread shulie
On 5/3/21 12:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Wow, such hypocrisy. The hypocrisy is the misusess of GNU trademarks to mislead people.

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-05 Thread Andreas R.
Hi Jacob, > There seem to be two > different people both named Andreas here, This is correct. Unfortunately, even though Jean-Louis is a very spirited defender of GNU, I feel his zeal sometimes gets in the way of reading comprehension. It happened before, and correcting him on the matter proved

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-04 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
Should I mention that truth doesn't care about people's feelings? Some of you know me, some don't. Those who know me also know that I always try to be respectful. However, this doesn't mean I'm always kind. I respect people, not their opinions. If something is idiotic or dumb, that's the

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-03 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: [...] Was it me who started split of the GNU project and presented it on this GNU mailing list? Or was it you? On a minor note, there seems to be some confusion here: the discussion was started by "Andreas R. ", while you are replying to "Andreas Enge " on this branch.

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-03 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Jean Louis, please restrain yourself and stop posing messages with a reply to each every message on this list. There is little point to continue threads that are enteirly unrelated to the GNU project (or Libreplanet). More specifically, discussion about groups that are entierly unrelated to the

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-03 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
> > [...] when a woman wrote us to express > > personally and specifically her concerns around RMS we ran her off, and > > ran her down. > > If you are talking about the woman who wrote to this list back in Oct > 2019, I was one of the people who responded to her, and I was polite > and

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-03 Thread shulie
On 4/28/21 1:35 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > What exactly? Naming a person 4 times while commenting their actions? No , for falsely accusing someone of sexually assualt and approving rape when you know it is just not true. Furthermore, how can anyone trust them with GNU licensing

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-02 Thread Jean Louis
* Corwin Brust [2021-04-30 21:29]: > Thanks Andrea. > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:08 PM Andreas Enge wrote: > > > I call out to the moderators of these mailing lists, if moderation indeed > > still exists there, to act against such hate mail by Jean Louis singling > > out an individual whose

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-02 Thread Jean Louis
* Corwin Brust [2021-04-30 21:29]: > Please reread the threads with an eye to how much good the topics most > favored on this list have done and will do to draw people and > public opinion to our cause. I hope and expect we can move forward with a > better tone and clearly visible mutual

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-02 Thread Jean Louis
* Corwin Brust [2021-04-30 21:29]: > FWIW, I find the flood of replies demanding "evidence" and otherwise > interrogating the concerns you express here to be excellent substantiation > in and of themselves. Corwin, would you be accused of illegal acts or as a complice to illegal acts, and

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-02 Thread Arun Isaac
> In general, I don't find it easy to find source code for package > "hello". Don't know what you're talking about. It's very easy to get source code for a package. For example, $ guix build -S hello signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-01 Thread Corwin Brust
Thanks Andrea. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:08 PM Andreas Enge wrote: > I call out to the moderators of these mailing lists, if moderation indeed > still exists there, to act against such hate mail by Jean Louis singling > out an individual whose actions they disagree with: > > Am Thu, Apr 22,

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread quiliro
Jean Louis writes: > By the way, could you please update the license on this page: > https://gnu.tools/en/documents/free-software/ > > The page is mentioning "open source" that was never in the original > article for free software here: > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and original

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2021-04-29 10:30]: > A code of conduct document is little more than a condensed set > of corporate or governmental HR policies, disguised as some > sort of "organically grown" community document. Code of conduct is used in an

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* quil...@riseup.net [2021-04-29 20:47]: > This makes me doubt if Guix really respects FSF FSDG. If they cannot > respect free software licenses, maybe they include non-free > software. I am sure that Guix would remove non-free software from system when such is discovered. Guix will become

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* quil...@riseup.net [2021-04-29 19:27]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > By the way, could you please update the license on this page: > > https://gnu.tools/en/documents/free-software/ > > > > The page is mentioning "open source" that was never in the original > > article for free software here: > >

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Federico Leva (Nemo) [2021-04-28 20:35]: > Il 28/04/21 18:27, Andreas Enge ha scritto: > > This cannot be qualified but as personal harrassment. > > What exactly? Naming a person 4 times while commenting their > actions? But I am sorry, I don't remember ever writing like 4 times Ludo's name,

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Il 28/04/21 18:27, Andreas Enge ha scritto: This cannot be qualified but as personal harrassment. What exactly? Naming a person 4 times while commenting their actions? Do you propose to apply such a standard universally, e.g. to an email criticising actions by an FSF or GNU office holder? (I

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2021-04-29 10:30]: > A code of conduct document is little more than a condensed set > of corporate or governmental HR policies, disguised as some > sort of "organically grown" community document. Every organization may have its own

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Andreas Enge [2021-04-28 18:28]: > I call out to the moderators of these mailing lists, if moderation indeed > still exists there, to act against such hate mail by Jean Louis singling > out an individual whose actions they disagree with: I have no hate against Ludo, I admire his work and

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Federico Leva (Nemo) [2021-04-28 20:35]: > Jean Louis, please consider whether certain expressions, for instance "like > children", may sound like personal attacks. I did not want to tell anything bad about children as they usually behave somehow to the level of their age. In fact I wanted to

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-04-30 Thread Andreas Enge
I call out to the moderators of these mailing lists, if moderation indeed still exists there, to act against such hate mail by Jean Louis singling out an individual whose actions they disagree with: Am Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:12:13AM +0300 schrieb Jean Louis: > Ludovic Courtès (Guix) > Ludovic