Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-01-06 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
Being a Linux GNUCash personal finance user, not doing electronic imports of anything but stock prices, I have found it to be relatively stable using the flatpak updates, which are far more current than the apt updates.  More aggressive users, and those on other platforms, may have more

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-01-03 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 6:24 PM Dave Hayes wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 00:21:57 -0600 > R Losey wrote: > > I was just expressing concern that the last few releases seem far more > > bug-ridden than I remember any of the 4.x releases being. > > Speaking as a long time gnucash user and an active

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-01-02 Thread Dave Hayes
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 00:21:57 -0600 R Losey wrote: > I was just expressing concern that the last few releases seem far more > bug-ridden than I remember any of the 4.x releases being. Speaking as a long time gnucash user and an active computer scientist, I'd like to point out that some of these

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-01-02 Thread Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:41 AM Michael D Novack wrote: >“Do you immediately upgrade to the newest version or do >you wait long enough for the new version bugs to be found and corrected?” >“if you dislike being an involuntary beta tester...then wait a little while >before upgrading.”  

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread Mark at Lorimark
yes... losing... my speling sucks! ~mark petryk ~c:469-556-5075 ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 12/29/23 14:16, R Losey wrote: Assuming you meant "losing", I completely agree with you. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 12:58 PM Mark at Lorimark mailto:m...@lorimarksolutions.com>> wrote:

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread R Losey
Assuming you meant "losing", I completely agree with you. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 12:58 PM Mark at Lorimark < m...@lorimarksolutions.com> wrote: > We are loosing projects like this. > > I hope... i hope... not this one. > > ~mark petryk > ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > > On 12/27/23

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread Gyle McCollam
nucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse? We are loosing projects like this. I hope... i hope... not this one. ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 12/27/23 22:33, R Losey wrote: > Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread Mark at Lorimark
We are loosing projects like this. I hope... i hope... not this one. ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 12/27/23 22:33, R Losey wrote: Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful responses... ___ gnucash-user mailing list

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Graves
+1 > On Dec 28, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > I'd offer as a comparison other projects and commercial products where the > developers aren't nearly as 'Johnny on the Spot' or as helpful and > responsive, or even accessible, but then, that wouldn't be any comparison at >

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-29 Thread Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user
I 100% agree. I know I have been a pain in the butt concerning my bad habits in saving files but I am grateful for the rescues. Best wishes for '24 to all the minders. Finbar (Barry) On 29/12/2023 02:02, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I'd offer as a comparison other projects and commercial

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-12-28 22:25, R Losey wrote: > I'm pretty sure I'm running Win10 Pro; Settings » System » About The easiest way to get into settings s the Windows Logo key + I, if you have the Windows Logo key. If not, Google for "windows open settings" (without quotes) and that will tell you. I had

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 12:07 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) < stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2023-12-28 17:26, Geoff wrote: > > If you are already running Windows 10/11 with an existing Pro, > > Enterprise, or Education licence (but not a Home licence) then Windows > > Sandbox is an easy way to

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 7:03 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > I'd offer as a comparison other projects and commercial products where > the developers aren't nearly as 'Johnny on the Spot' or as helpful and > responsive, or even accessible, but then, that wouldn't be

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
Thanks; I haven't played with GnuCash Portable, and I don't know if that would help do beta testing. On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 4:35 PM Fred Bone wrote: > On 28 December 2023 at 11:05, R Losey said: > > [...] > > Since I've been on this mailing list (much less time than I've been using > >

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
Noted, but is that really the case in 5.4 where a process was left running (in Windows), causing problems for GnuCash users? That didn't seem to be related to externals. And the bug in 5.5 where Scheduled transactions don't work with variables, or crash the system -- that seems to be tied to a

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
That's fine, and I ponder upon what I wrote, I think that "worse" was not the best word... GnuCash is adding some nice features and I enjoy it very much... A better word may have been "more bug-ridden". I don't remember having as many problems with releases until this year. On Thu, Dec 28, 2023

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-12-28 17:26, Geoff wrote: > If you are already running Windows 10/11 with an existing Pro, > Enterprise, or Education licence (but not a Home licence) then Windows > Sandbox is an easy way to create a (temporary) Virtual Machine, and it > only requires 4GB RAM and 1GB free disc space.  You

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Geoff
If you are already running Windows 10/11 with an existing Pro, Enterprise, or Education licence (but not a Home licence) then Windows Sandbox is an easy way to create a (temporary) Virtual Machine, and it only requires 4GB RAM and 1GB free disc space. You don't need a separate licence.

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Adrien Monteleone
3rd party as far as I am aware. Regards, Adrien On 12/28/23 6:12 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote: Are the portable apps produced by the GnuCash team or by same third party? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I'm fairly certain you can create a VM of a running instance of Win10 though I can't speak to how that works for licensing. MS does allow some testing VMs, so perhaps investigate that first and how to set it up to their liking. Another option might be a container like Docker, though I'm not

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I'd offer as a comparison other projects and commercial products where the developers aren't nearly as 'Johnny on the Spot' or as helpful and responsive, or even accessible, but then, that wouldn't be any comparison at all. This dev team is hands down awesome and why I continue to use GnuCash

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 28 December 2023 at 11:05, R Losey said: > I supposed the best way to beta test new versions would be to create a VM > and play with it there; I wouldn't want to corrupt my good working copy or > financial records. On 2023-12-28 14:34, Fred Bone wrote: > The other approach is PortableApps. The

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Fred Bone
On 28 December 2023 at 11:05, R Losey said: [...] > Since I've been on this mailing list (much less time than I've been using > GnuCash), I have always waited and watched this list for experiences with > the new version; it was thanks to this list that I heard about the extra > process problem

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread David Cousens
Richard, Given the relatively small pool of active developers it is inevitable that there will be occasions where major changes in external libraries, operating systems as well as banking systems and technology and accounting practice can result in a cascade of bugs in the program and the

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Jonathan Knepher via gnucash-user
A quick note to say that I have to disagree with the getting worse proposition, and to express my thanks to the volunteers that make it possible. GnuCash is great.  There aren't really any other open source alternatives that have all of the pieces together.  Native Linux support, complies

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 11:37 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) < stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2023-12-28 09:05, R Losey wrote: > > As a former software engineer, I've thought about volunteering, but it > > seems so massive an undertaking that it daunts me. I suppose I could > create > > a VM (if

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-12-28 09:05, R Losey wrote: > As a former software engineer, I've thought about volunteering, but it > seems so massive an undertaking that it daunts me. I suppose I could create > a VM (if my machine is powerful enough to handle a VM) and do some beta > testing. VirtualBox should work in

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread R Losey
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 9:41 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 12/28/2023 3:56 AM, G R Hewitt wrote: > > My two pennyworth is similar. > > My two cents is a little different. > > Also a retired pro, a very senior sort of systems analyst who toward the > end

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 12/28/2023 3:56 AM, G R Hewitt wrote: My two pennyworth is similar. My two cents is a little different. Also a retired pro, a very senior sort of systems analyst who toward the end mainly handling what had the department programmers stumped or was beyond them in the first place. This

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Glenn Fowler
Since FOSS is a community effort, we can all help with testing beta builds: https://code.gnucash.org/builds/ On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:33 PM R Losey wrote: > Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful responses... > > I worked in the software industry, and the programs I supported have had >

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread Geert Janssens
Hi R Losey, Your concerns are appreciated. As a currently non-active developer I was a bit sad to see the struggles of the two most recent releases. I know the current devs do what they can though. Their issue is not a lack of money. It's less available time in a shrinking pool of

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-28 Thread G R Hewitt
My two pennyworth is similar. I moved over to Macs from Windows and was looking for an accounting program. Many were all whizz-bang dial and graphs and bright primary colours and all sorts of clutter that I found confusing and unnecessary, when all I wanted was a simple transaction register that

Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2023-12-27 Thread Ken Pyzik
Well, I will add my 2 cents worth (for that is probably all it is really worth anyway). With no disrespect to R Losey (I can appreciate what you are saying) I will say this: I have been using the product since at least version 2.3. I have had few, if any, complaints with the software.