Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread John Ralls


> On Aug 28, 2018, at 2:58 AM, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
> 
> Colin
>   Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
>   I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule the 
> original program.
>   The Apple techs tell me that the accounts seem to be contained in the 
> app and not with my other documents.  
>   I had reconciled my accounts up until the end of last month so I was 
> prepared to start again even though it was unfortunate to loose all that 
> information that is why I was urged to contact GnuCash to see if it was 
> possible to find a way to retrieve the original information.
>   You reminded me of something I had forgotten.  I have backups of all my 
> data so I have the answer.
>   One thing, the Apple techs showed me was, that in the System 
> Preferences, HQ has reduced the acceptable apps to; 1 From the App Store, and 
> 2From recognised developers.  They have removed unrecognised developers; 
> without the option of you being able to open the program .  They say HQ has 
> done this in the name of Security.

If you got GnuCash from one of our download locations, it’s signed with an 
Apple Developer Certificate and so falls into the second category. Since 
GnuCash is starting up, albeit without opening your book, you’ve gotten past 
any security issues.

So start up GnuCash and select File>Open from the menu. You’ll be presented 
with a file chooser. It’s not the native one, but it works mostly the same way. 
It will open in your home folder and you can navigate to whatever folder in 
which you keep your GnuCash data. In that folder, select the base file 
(remember that GnuCash names its backup files with timestamps in the middle, so 
if your data file is foo.gnucash the backups will be named like 
foo.gnucash.20180826112319.gnucash) and click the “open” button on the lower 
right corner of the file chooser.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Adrien Monteleone

> On Aug 28, 2018, at 4:58 AM, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
> 
> Colin
>   Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
>   I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule the 
> original program.
>   The Apple techs tell me that the accounts seem to be contained in the 
> app and not with my other documents.  
>   I had reconciled my accounts up until the end of last month so I was 
> prepared to start again even though it was unfortunate to loose all that 
> information that is why I was urged to contact GnuCash to see if it was 
> possible to find a way to retrieve the original information.
>   You reminded me of something I had forgotten.  I have backups of all my 
> data so I have the answer.
>   One thing, the Apple techs showed me was, that in the System 
> Preferences, HQ has reduced the acceptable apps to; 1 From the App Store, and 
> 2From recognised developers.  They have removed unrecognised developers; 
> without the option of you being able to open the program .  They say HQ has 
> done this in the name of Security.
Ian,

You need to solve the ‘installation’ issue first. It should copy over and 
launch normally without bypassing GateKeeper. Not only will you have some 
issues opening your file, you may see some issues with Dock icons. There have 
been threads on both issues on this list.

The app IS signed by a recognized developer. If GateKeeper is telling you it 
isn’t, you need to verify the app itself. Perhaps you have a corrupt download? 
Where did you get it from? (should have been GnuCash.org which sends you to 
SourceForge) Are you copying the app to /Applications or 
/user/your-user/Applications? (and *not* trying to run it from the dmg)

Regards,
Adrien



> 
>> On 28 Aug 2018, at 17:06, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to use File > Open and browse to your accounts
>> file, wherever you originally saved it.
>> If you have lost that for some reason then hopefully you have a recent 
>> backup.
>> 
>> Colin
>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 06:31, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   For years (2011?) I have used GnuCash to keep my personal accounts.  
>>> A few years ago I could not open the program and had to download the new 
>>> version.
>>>   A few days ago again I could not open the program to update some 
>>> information, and again it would not load.  So I thought a similar thing had 
>>> occurred and downloaded the latest version.  Like a fool I deleted the old 
>>> app.
>>>   When I tried to open the app, Apple would not open the program 
>>> because “the program was not purchased from the Apple App Store”.  I fixed 
>>> that problem but now when I open the program I get a new blank page not my 
>>> usual accounts.
>>>   Everything has been corrected with the Apple techs and they say to 
>>> contact you to see if there is someway to resurrect the accounts.
>>> Ian Lancaster.
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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 28 August 2018 10:58:30 BST Ian Lancaster wrote:
> Colin
>   Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
>   I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule the 
> original
> program. 

Hi, 

what do you mean by this phrase?  Does GC pop up any messages or dialogue 
boxes?  if so, what do they say?

Your accounts data file is stored wherever you saved it - you'll need to 
navigate to the correct folder then open the file (usually something like 
.gnucash

ignore the files that will probably also be in that folder with long sequences 
of digits in them - these are GC's auto-backups.

If you can't remember where you saved the data file, you may be able to search 
your discs for files ending .gnucash, but I don't know macs so can't suggest 
how.

HTH,
Maf.



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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 10:58, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
>
> Colin
> Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
> I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule the 
> original program.

I don't understand what you mean by that, you should get a file
browser so you can browse to the location.  Please explain what you
are seeing.

> The Apple techs tell me that the accounts seem to be contained in the 
> app and not with my other documents.

No, when you first saved your accounts file you would have been shown
a browse window to decide where to put it.  That is where you have to
browse to using File > Open

> I had reconciled my accounts up until the end of last month so I was 
> prepared to start again even though it was unfortunate to loose all that 
> information that is why I was urged to contact GnuCash to see if it was 
> possible to find a way to retrieve the original information.
> You reminded me of something I had forgotten.  I have backups of all 
> my data so I have the answer.
> One thing, the Apple techs showed me was, that in the System 
> Preferences, HQ has reduced the acceptable apps to; 1 From the App Store, and 
> 2From recognised developers.  They have removed unrecognised developers; 
> without the option of you being able to open the program .  They say HQ has 
> done this in the name of Security.

I use don't use Apple, so can't comment on that.  No doubt John Rails
will interject when he sees this.  I suspect Apple Tech are leading
you up the garden path.

Colin

>
> > On 28 Aug 2018, at 17:06, Colin Law  wrote:
> >
> > You should be able to use File > Open and browse to your accounts
> > file, wherever you originally saved it.
> > If you have lost that for some reason then hopefully you have a recent 
> > backup.
> >
> > Colin
> > On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 06:31, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
> >>
> >>For years (2011?) I have used GnuCash to keep my personal accounts. 
> >>  A few years ago I could not open the program and had to download the new 
> >> version.
> >>A few days ago again I could not open the program to update some 
> >> information, and again it would not load.  So I thought a similar thing 
> >> had occurred and downloaded the latest version.  Like a fool I deleted the 
> >> old app.
> >>When I tried to open the app, Apple would not open the program 
> >> because “the program was not purchased from the Apple App Store”.  I fixed 
> >> that problem but now when I open the program I get a new blank page not my 
> >> usual accounts.
> >>Everything has been corrected with the Apple techs and they say to 
> >> contact you to see if there is someway to resurrect the accounts.
> >> Ian Lancaster.
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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Liz
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:58:30 +1000
Ian Lancaster  wrote:

> Colin
>   Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
>   I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule
> the original program. The Apple techs tell me that the accounts seem
> to be contained in the app and not with my other documents. I had
> reconciled my accounts up until the end of last month so I was
> prepared to start again even though it was unfortunate to loose all
> that information that is why I was urged to contact GnuCash to see if
> it was possible to find a way to retrieve the original information.
> You reminded me of something I had forgotten.  I have backups of all
> my data so I have the answer. One thing, the Apple techs showed me
> was, that in the System Preferences, HQ has reduced the acceptable
> apps to; 1 From the App Store, and 2  From recognised
> developers.  They have removed unrecognised developers; without the
> option of you being able to open the program .  They say HQ has done
> this in the name of Security.


Relax
The data is not within the app.
And you have done a backup.

I understand that John Ralls is a recognised developer under the Apple
system.

Certainly, you will find people here with more knowledge on your
problem that the "Apple techs"

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Ian Lancaster
Colin
Thanks for your very quick reply to my problem.
I have tried the File>Open but the new app seems to overrule the 
original program.
The Apple techs tell me that the accounts seem to be contained in the 
app and not with my other documents.  
I had reconciled my accounts up until the end of last month so I was 
prepared to start again even though it was unfortunate to loose all that 
information that is why I was urged to contact GnuCash to see if it was 
possible to find a way to retrieve the original information.
You reminded me of something I had forgotten.  I have backups of all my 
data so I have the answer.
One thing, the Apple techs showed me was, that in the System 
Preferences, HQ has reduced the acceptable apps to; 1 From the App Store, and 2 
   From recognised developers.  They have removed unrecognised developers; 
without the option of you being able to open the program .  They say HQ has 
done this in the name of Security.

> On 28 Aug 2018, at 17:06, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to use File > Open and browse to your accounts
> file, wherever you originally saved it.
> If you have lost that for some reason then hopefully you have a recent backup.
> 
> Colin
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 06:31, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
>> 
>>For years (2011?) I have used GnuCash to keep my personal accounts.  
>> A few years ago I could not open the program and had to download the new 
>> version.
>>A few days ago again I could not open the program to update some 
>> information, and again it would not load.  So I thought a similar thing had 
>> occurred and downloaded the latest version.  Like a fool I deleted the old 
>> app.
>>When I tried to open the app, Apple would not open the program 
>> because “the program was not purchased from the Apple App Store”.  I fixed 
>> that problem but now when I open the program I get a new blank page not my 
>> usual accounts.
>>Everything has been corrected with the Apple techs and they say to 
>> contact you to see if there is someway to resurrect the accounts.
>> Ian Lancaster.
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Re: [GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-28 Thread Colin Law
You should be able to use File > Open and browse to your accounts
file, wherever you originally saved it.
If you have lost that for some reason then hopefully you have a recent backup.

Colin
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 06:31, Ian Lancaster  wrote:
>
> For years (2011?) I have used GnuCash to keep my personal accounts.  
> A few years ago I could not open the program and had to download the new 
> version.
> A few days ago again I could not open the program to update some 
> information, and again it would not load.  So I thought a similar thing had 
> occurred and downloaded the latest version.  Like a fool I deleted the old 
> app.
> When I tried to open the app, Apple would not open the program 
> because “the program was not purchased from the Apple App Store”.  I fixed 
> that problem but now when I open the program I get a new blank page not my 
> usual accounts.
> Everything has been corrected with the Apple techs and they say to 
> contact you to see if there is someway to resurrect the accounts.
> Ian Lancaster.
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[GNC] Unable to open new version

2018-08-27 Thread Ian Lancaster
For years (2011?) I have used GnuCash to keep my personal accounts.  A 
few years ago I could not open the program and had to download the new version.
A few days ago again I could not open the program to update some 
information, and again it would not load.  So I thought a similar thing had 
occurred and downloaded the latest version.  Like a fool I deleted the old app.
When I tried to open the app, Apple would not open the program because 
“the program was not purchased from the Apple App Store”.  I fixed that problem 
but now when I open the program I get a new blank page not my usual accounts.  
Everything has been corrected with the Apple techs and they say to 
contact you to see if there is someway to resurrect the accounts.
Ian Lancaster.
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