Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread R Losey
On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:51 AM Henry Law wrote: > On Fri, 2023-07-21 at 11:43 -0400, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > A good, clear example why something like that should be allowed. > > Been watching the replies to this with interest: there's a lot of > knowledge out there. > > But,

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread R Losey
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 4:41 PM Stan Brown wrote: > > Here's a recent example where _three_ splits in a transaction referenced > the same account. I paid for my groceries with a credit card, then > before leaving the register I noticed that the cashier had rung up my > two $0.49 bunches of

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
More imagination? A person is making  purchase with a credit card and that has processed, but tells the sales person oops, I meant to use this other credit card*. Sales person reverses the first and then re-enters with the second credit card. The point here is that the credit card statement

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Amish
Yes, I use this feature a lot when purchasing bonds in bond market. In my case, first I deposit money say 2500 with broker, then I buy bonds say worth 2100 (21 bonds worth 100 each) and by end of the day I get 400 back in my bank. This I note down (simplify) as a single transaction with 3

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Stan Brown
On 2023-07-21 08:51, Henry Law wrote: > But, thinking about it, the problem that I ran across was that the two > splits in the offending transaction had ended up with a CR and a DB for > the same amount to the same account; it was a null transaction.  I > hesitate to say this, having been proved

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Henry Law
On Fri, 2023-07-21 at 11:43 -0400, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > A good, clear example why something like that should be allowed. Been watching the replies to this with interest: there's a lot of knowledge out there. But, thinking about it, the problem that I ran across was that the two

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
A good, clear example why something like that should be allowed. Ordinary users need examples like that to make it real to them (why should NOT be disallowed even though very rarely needed). I would perhaps just have pointed out that gnucash should not disallow something that COULD be entered

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Liz
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 18:46:08 +0100 Henry Law wrote: > Earlier today my wife was running GNUCash to update "her" bit of the > accounts and got into a serious tangle because she (inadvertently) > changed a newly-imported transaction so that its two splits -- which > should have been our current

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-21 Thread Henry Law
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 14:40 -0700, Stan Brown wrote: > Here's a recent example where _three_ splits in a transaction > referenced > the same account. Just goes to show that what a career in IT taught me: the world is always more complex than one individual can understand! Thank you. -- -- 

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread R. Victor Klassen
Just to add one more instance, the business features, regularly do this, when entering a bill or invoice. 10 items on an invoice/bill could correspond to as many as 10 different income/expense accounts, or as few as one. Once the transaction has been posted, (one transaction per

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread Stan Brown
On 2023-07-20 10:46, Henry Law wrote: > Should GNUCash refuse to allow a transaction to have two splits into > the same account?  My knowledge of accounting is scant, but with it I > can't see why one would ever legitimately do that. Here's a recent example where _three_ splits in a transaction

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread John Ralls
> On Jul 20, 2023, at 10:46 AM, Henry Law wrote: > > Earlier today my wife was running GNUCash to update "her" bit of the > accounts and got into a serious tangle because she (inadvertently) > changed a newly-imported transaction so that its two splits -- which > should have been our current

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
There are many situations where that can legitimately happen-- for example, when you have two charges contributing to a particular total (think of a paycheck with income from base salary and income from bonuses). Your want to see each listed separately, even though they combine to one final

Re: [GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread David Carlson
Yes. I do it monthly in some accounts where I make a minimum payment on a loan and separately add an additional amount. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, 1:18 PM Henry Law wrote: > Earlier today my wife was running GNUCash to update "her" bit of the > accounts and got into a serious tangle because she

[GNC] Should GNUCash allow a split to reference the same account twice

2023-07-20 Thread Henry Law
Earlier today my wife was running GNUCash to update "her" bit of the accounts and got into a serious tangle because she (inadvertently) changed a newly-imported transaction so that its two splits -- which should have been our current account and her credit card account -- both referred to the