Re: How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Adrien Monteleone
The import should assign them to whatever accounts you map. (the ‘other side’ 
of each being the account you are importing) If any do not, they’ll be assigned 
to the imbalance account so they’ll be easy to find and fix.

The only issue with balances is that you’ll have to adjust your opening balance 
entry for that particular account. So if you started with 2018 with an opening 
balance there and then started entering or importing prior transactions, you’ll 
need the real opening balance from 2017 to have everything still be the correct 
balance as of today.

While some may cringe at the suggestion, it’s quite easy to simply change the 
date on your opening balance entry to 1/1/17 and correct it. The other route 
would be to make a new opening balance entry as of that date, but this will 
look odd since it’s back-dated, and then you’ll need a correcting entry as of 
12/31/17 to keep the 1/1/18 entry from doubling your balance. There are times 
when I see the point of correcting entries. This is not one of them, you’re 
re-building your books in a different format. The entries really shouldn’t be 
corrected, just translated. It’s okay to directly edit errors produced by 
either the import process or by choice of order of import.


Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> My concern was if we 'import' all the 2017 transactions it will mess up the 
> balances... but I guess they will all just sit in checking assigned to no 
> account.
> We just thought it would be cleaner to have a separate 2017 file... 
> I'm going to post another question sorta relative to this so stand by.
> Thanks,
> Fran3
> 
>On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 6:48:54 PM EST, Rich Shepard 
>  wrote:  
> 
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
>> We have setup a gnucash file for 2018 and created all our customer and
>> vendor accounts... plus customized the chart of accounts... and entered
>> all the transactions to date. Now we want to do 2017.
> 
>> Is there a way to export the structure leaving the vendors, customers, and
>> customized chart of accounts in place so we can begin populating for 2017.
>> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Fran3,
> 
>   Were I you, I'd just start entering your 2017 data (in any order) and
> GnuCash will place it appropriately by date. That's what I did when I
> switched both business and personal books to gnucash in 2017, I entered all
> the 2016 data when I had the time.
> 
>   There's no particular advantage to keeping separate books when you have
> sufficient disk space available and can specify date ranges for all reports.
> 
> Happy bookkeeping,
> 
> Rich
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Re: How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Fran_3 wrote:


My concern was if we 'import' all the 2017 transactions it will mess up
the balances... but I guess they will all just sit in checking assigned to
no account. We just thought it would be cleaner to have a separate 2017
file...  I'm going to post another question sorta relative to this so
stand by.


Fran3,

  I don't import, I enter. If you enter 2017 transactions correctly (with
offsetting accounts) your checking account balance will change until all the
2017 debits and credits are entered. Then it will be correct.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 My concern was if we 'import' all the 2017 transactions it will mess up the 
balances... but I guess they will all just sit in checking assigned to no 
account.
We just thought it would be cleaner to have a separate 2017 file... 
I'm going to post another question sorta relative to this so stand by.
Thanks,
Fran3

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 6:48:54 PM EST, Rich Shepard 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:

> We have setup a gnucash file for 2018 and created all our customer and
> vendor accounts... plus customized the chart of accounts... and entered
> all the transactions to date. Now we want to do 2017.

> Is there a way to export the structure leaving the vendors, customers, and
> customized chart of accounts in place so we can begin populating for 2017.
> Thanks for any help.

Fran3,

  Were I you, I'd just start entering your 2017 data (in any order) and
GnuCash will place it appropriately by date. That's what I did when I
switched both business and personal books to gnucash in 2017, I entered all
the 2016 data when I had the time.

  There's no particular advantage to keeping separate books when you have
sufficient disk space available and can specify date ranges for all reports.

Happy bookkeeping,

Rich
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Re: How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:


We have setup a gnucash file for 2018 and created all our customer and
vendor accounts... plus customized the chart of accounts... and entered
all the transactions to date. Now we want to do 2017.



Is there a way to export the structure leaving the vendors, customers, and
customized chart of accounts in place so we can begin populating for 2017.
Thanks for any help.


Fran3,

  Were I you, I'd just start entering your 2017 data (in any order) and
GnuCash will place it appropriately by date. That's what I did when I
switched both business and personal books to gnucash in 2017, I entered all
the 2016 data when I had the time.

  There's no particular advantage to keeping separate books when you have
sufficient disk space available and can specify date ranges for all reports.

Happy bookkeeping,

Rich
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Re: How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Derek Atkins
You can export the chart of accounts via File - > Export Accounts.  But it 
will not include your customers, vendors, etc.  It only saves your account 
tree.


Note that there is no real need to start over. Gnucash is quite happy to 
just continue, and the reports handle multiple years in one data file.


-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.



On February 14, 2018 6:31:47 PM Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


 We have setup a gnucash file for 2018 and created all our customer and 
 vendor accounts... plus customized the chart of accounts... and entered all 
 the transactions to date.

Now we want to do 2017.
Is there a way to export the structure leaving the vendors, customers, and 
customized chart of accounts in place so we can begin populating for 2017.

Thanks for any help.
Fran3


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How to export structure without transactions?

2018-02-14 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 We have setup a gnucash file for 2018 and created all our customer and vendor 
accounts... plus customized the chart of accounts... and entered all the 
transactions to date.
Now we want to do 2017.
Is there a way to export the structure leaving the vendors, customers, and 
customized chart of accounts in place so we can begin populating for 2017.
Thanks for any help.
Fran3

  
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