Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 1/30/2024 4:37 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Michael, if I recall correctly, the OP was bifurcating their checking account *every year*. That is: Checking   -2022   -2023   -2024   -etc. I was discussing in general. And in any case, standing accounts (asset, liability,equity) are NOT

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Kevin Buckley via gnucash-user
On Wednesday, January 31st, 2024 at 01:12, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > On 1/29/24 8:04 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: > > > OK, I want to do it properly, but I had an email crash and . > > > > So, can someone point me or send me the 'how to' for doing an end of > > year process,

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Michael, if I recall correctly, the OP was bifurcating their checking account *every year*. That is: Checking -2022 -2023 -2024 -etc. As a result (the same would happen with a new file), they were losing the benefits of auto-complete. The only workaround for that is simply don't

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Patrick James
> On 01/30/2024 9:39 AM PST Michael or Penny Novack > wrote: > > ONE refers to closing all the accounts of type income and expense > (temporary accounts of fundamental type equity) into equity itself or > accounts under equity. You will have to be doing the latter if the > entity type isn't

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 1/30/2024 12:12 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: You can't. I thought we described that already. If you start a new file/account each year, you will lose all auto-complete from the previous year's entries. The auto-complete list is generated on the fly from the other transactions in the

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-30 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You can't. I thought we described that already. If you start a new file/account each year, you will lose all auto-complete from the previous year's entries. The auto-complete list is generated on the fly from the other transactions in the register you have open at that time. If that

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-29 Thread Jesse Ayers
In regard to end of year, I found the following on the web a few years back. The last section, “The Solution,” is how I do it and it works like a charm (but I have a very small business with very few transactions). Easy-peasy — Jesse Ayers GnuCash and End of Year Posted on 22 August 11

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-29 Thread R Losey
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 1:40 PM Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > On 2024-01-29 06:04, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: > > > OK, I want to do it properly, but I had an email crash and . > > > > So, can someone point me or send me the 'how to' for doing an end of > > year process, where I can

Re: [GNC] End of year

2024-01-29 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2024-01-29 06:04, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: OK, I want to do it properly, but I had an email crash and . So, can someone point me or send me the 'how to' for doing an end of year process, where I can 'inherit' the names from the autocomplete from the previous years? You

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-14 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 1/13/2024 10:27 PM, R Losey wrote: Absolutely; there is no reason to do anything special at the end of the year; for many years, I have just kept using GnuCash and have had no issues, but some people like to make yearly archives, or do the "close the books" thing. This perhaps bears

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-14 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
Folks trying to imitate Pen & Paper using a computer are always going to have to adjust their workflow or make concessions for the difference in formats. This is true no matter the task at hand, or the software used, and is true of things not even accounting related at all. I'm glad

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread R Losey
Absolutely; there is no reason to do anything special at the end of the year; for many years, I have just kept using GnuCash and have had no issues, but some people like to make yearly archives, or do the "close the books" thing. On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:53 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Sorry, I would not like to see an FAQ pop up in this list on any periodic basis. What you are describing there is akin to a 'sticky' or 'pinned' post in a web forum. This is not a web forum. We have the Wiki, which has the FAQ section. We also have the Help Manual, and the Tutorial &

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That would be the case at first glance, but see my reply up the chain concerning correcting entries and usual procedures when starting with fresh books each year. I'd hazard that with Pen & Paper, Reconciliation is *not* necessarily a function of the T-Accounts or General Journal. That is

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
With older versions of GC, it used to take a long time to open a file. With 4.14, and I presume with 5.x, it's almost instantaneous. So why is there any discussion of saving previous-year data? It seems reasonable to me to archive a file as of 12-31-20XX, because you can't have too many archives.

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread David Carlson
Dumb question. The original topic was about unreconncciled transactions from the pervious year. If they are not copied over to the new file wouldn't that mess up the next reconciliation? On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 3:07 PM Liz wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:19:26 -0600 > R Losey wrote: > > >

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Liz
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:19:26 -0600 R Losey wrote: > But the larger issue is that I believe this email list could benefit > from a FAQ that is posted monthly or every other month to this group. > The wiki has some neat ideas about tracking year to year equity > growth. You will need to convince

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread David Cousens
A section in the Tutorial and Concepts Guide may be even more appropriate and then link the FAQ to it. That then provides the option when the question comes up repeatedly in the list of just providing the link to it. David Cousens On Sat, 2024-01-13 at 11:19 -0600, R Losey wrote: > Pretty much,

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Fred Tydeman
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 9:20 AM R Losey wrote: > I gather that the main reason for "closing" books is that on the "Accounts" > tab, one can see the year-to-date expenses and income instead of the total > since one started using GnuCash. It's a neat idea. > Another option is to use the

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread R Losey
Pretty much, yes, although I found it a bit weak on the note that it is not really necessary. But the larger issue is that I believe this email list could benefit from a FAQ that is posted monthly or every other month to this group. The wiki has some neat ideas about tracking year to year equity

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Closing_Books Does that cover it? ⁣David T.​ On Jan 13, 2024, 4:25 PM, at 4:25 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >You could add A2b: > >Export your Chart of Accounts and write down the ending balances as >needed. Start a new file, import your exported chart of

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Phyllis Bruce
>> >> *Gyle McCollam* >> >> Gyle McCollam >> >> gmccol...@live.comemail >> -- >> *From:* gnucash-user >> on behalf of Phyllis Bruce >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2024 10:56 AM >> *To:* adrien.montele...@

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Phyllis Bruce
montele...@lusfiber.net > *Cc:* gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] End of Year? > > I did mean checking/savings and credit card accounts. Thanks > > Since I use Gnucash for personal rather than business use, I don't > "close" the books. However

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Gyle McCollam
email From: gnucash-user on behalf of Phyllis Bruce Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 10:56 AM To: adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] End of Year? I did mean checking/savings and credit card accounts. Thanks Since I use G

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Phyllis Bruce
I did mean checking/savings and credit card accounts. Thanks Since I use Gnucash for personal rather than business use, I don't "close" the books. However, if I wanted to archive 2023 and start fresh on Jan 1, 2024, I would enter any unreconciled transactions in those accounts in your A2b

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Adrien Monteleone
*ALL accounts are 'credit and debit' accounts. But perhaps you mean Checking & Credit Card accounts? (i.e., those held at a 3rd party financial institution, since you are referencing 'reconciliation'.) Reconciliation is usually done prior to a Trial Balance as part of the End of Year process

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Phyllis Bruce
H, would you not also need to re-enter any unreconciled transactions in your credit and debit accounts? On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 7:24 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > You could add A2b: > > Export your Chart of Accounts and write down the ending balances as >

Re: [GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-13 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You could add A2b: Export your Chart of Accounts and write down the ending balances as needed. Start a new file, import your exported chart of accounts and set opening balances to the old ending balances. This method is more like Pen & Paper days in that each file only contains one period

Re: [GNC] End of year Archive of Accounts

2023-12-11 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 12/11/2023 12:19 PM, Grace wrote: Hello, As we approach the end of the year (Happy Christmas everyone) I am wondering how I would archive off 2023 accounts leaving opening balances for 2024. I don't see this an action available, so is there a process I need to know? Thanks Grace

Re: [GNC] End of year for taxes

2022-09-21 Thread Stan Brown
On 2022-09-21 07:10, Richard Barmann wrote: > After having covid and spending 4 months in a nursing home I have > forgotten how to pull up the last year to do my taxes. It seems to have > wiped my mind clear of how to proceed.  I nave to do the last taxes and > then close the business as I am in

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 12:27:22PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > HI, > > On Tue, February 2, 2021 12:07 pm, Chris Green wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:12:09AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Tue, February 2, 2021 10:03 am, Chris Green wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > Yes, that

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Derek Atkins
HI, On Tue, February 2, 2021 12:07 pm, Chris Green wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:12:09AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, February 2, 2021 10:03 am, Chris Green wrote: >> [snip] >> > Yes, that works, thanks Derek. I suppose it's not too onerous as I >> > only do it once a

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:12:09AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, February 2, 2021 10:03 am, Chris Green wrote: > [snip] > > Yes, that works, thanks Derek. I suppose it's not too onerous as I > > only do it once a year! :-) > > This begs the question: Why are you doing this? Why

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Tue, February 2, 2021 10:03 am, Chris Green wrote: [snip] > Yes, that works, thanks Derek. I suppose it's not too onerous as I > only do it once a year! :-) This begs the question: Why are you doing this? Why not just backup the data file, then run tools -> Close Books to zero out your

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 09:44:44AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > On Tue, February 2, 2021 9:37 am, Chris Green wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 08:07:07AM -0500, D. wrote: > >> > Is there any easy way to create a set of empty copies of an existing > >> > set of accounts so I can start the new

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Try saving it as XML, and then opening it, and then Save-As Sqlite -derek On Tue, February 2, 2021 9:37 am, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 08:07:07AM -0500, D. wrote: >> > Is there any easy way to create a set of empty copies of an existing >> > set of accounts so I can start the

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-02-02 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 08:07:07AM -0500, D. wrote: > > Is there any easy way to create a set of empty copies of an existing > > set of accounts so I can start the new year easily? > > File -> Export -> Export Accounts > Well, I have been trying to do this but it doesn't work. I am using

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-01-20 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 08:07:07AM -0500, D. wrote: > From: Chris Green > > > > Is there any easy way to create a set of empty copies of an existing > > set of accounts so I can start the new year easily? > > File -> Export -> Export Accounts > I just did that and on trying to open the new,

Re: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year?

2021-01-20 Thread D. via gnucash-user
File -> Export -> Export Accounts Original Message From: Chris Green Sent: Wed Jan 20 07:01:42 EST 2021 To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] End of year, how to clone a set of accounts for the new year? Is there any easy way to create a set of empty copies of an

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-22 Thread Christopher Lam
It has not quite been merged in yet, but I see no further issue that I can fix myself, so, I'll see about getting in for wider use and bug finding, in an "experimental" submenu. It won't report unrealised gains though, too difficult to hack it as it is. On Fri., 22 Mar. 2019, 23:06 Derek Atkins,

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Adrien Monteleone writes: > For now, the likely best method is exporting and using a spreadsheet > for multi-period comparisons, though I seem to recall a proper > multi-period report is in development. I believe it has been committed to the repository already. If not, there is an open PR

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Christian Kluge writes: > Am 21.03.2019 um 21:00 schrieb Derek Atkins: >> >>> At least for me in Germany I can’t think of someone accounting for more >>> than one year and also only on certain circumstances accounting for >>> another period than 01.01. to 31.12. >> >> Here in the US,

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Adrien Monteleone
For now, the likely best method is exporting and using a spreadsheet for multi-period comparisons, though I seem to recall a proper multi-period report is in development. The multi-column report could fit that bill, but as-is, repeats all of the account labels which makes things quite

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I too worked for a company that had an odd fiscal year - starting Nov 1 because that’s when they incorporated. They ran for decades like that till I convinced them to do a short year filing and align to the calendar the following year. Do you mean that GnuCash should require closing the books

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Christian Kluge
Am 21.03.2019 um 21:00 schrieb Derek Atkins: > >> At least for me in Germany I can’t think of someone accounting for more >> than one year and also only on certain circumstances accounting for >> another period than 01.01. to 31.12. > > Here in the US, organizations are free to set up any

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Liz
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 20:51:00 +0100 Christian Kluge wrote: > I don’t know how to say it, but I think GnuCash might be better off > with a balance carry over method into the next year. > > At least for me in Germany I can’t think of someone accounting for > more than one year and also only on

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Derek Atkins
On Thu, March 21, 2019 3:51 pm, Christian Kluge wrote: [snip] > I don’t know how to say it, but I think GnuCash might be better off with > a balance carry over method into the next year. Patches always welcome! :) > At least for me in Germany I can’t think of someone accounting for more > than

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Christian Kluge
Am 21.03.2019 um 15:14 schrieb Derek Atkins: > Hi, > > Philip Burg writes: > >> I would like to close my books at the end of my financial year but >> have access to the previous years files, my thoughts were to archive >> the file at the end of the year by backing up to a cd/dvd then start >>

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-21 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, Philip Burg writes: > I would like to close my books at the end of my financial year but > have access to the previous years files, my thoughts were to archive > the file at the end of the year by backing up to a cd/dvd then start > afresh with the new financial year. would this be

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-20 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: gnucash-user on behalf of Matthew Andrews Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:57:12 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] End of year rollover Hi Adrien, I just joined this li

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-20 Thread Philip Burg
h-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] End of year rollover Hi Adrien, I just joined this list with the same question. Great timing! I like your suggestion. It seems easier than starting a completely new file, importing the accounts tree, and entering any starting balances left over from the pr

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-20 Thread Matthew Andrews
Hi Adrien, I just joined this list with the same question.  Great timing!  I like your suggestion.  It seems easier than starting a completely new file, importing the accounts tree, and entering any starting balances left over from the previous year. It took me a bit of time to figure out

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-20 Thread garage cowboy
Thanks for the reply - and the helpful tips. regards, ALT On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:42 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Welcome to GnuCash! > > There is a ‘close books’ procedure you can use that zeros expenses and > income to equity as ‘retained

Re: [GNC] End of year rollover

2019-03-19 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Welcome to GnuCash! There is a ‘close books’ procedure you can use that zeros expenses and income to equity as ‘retained earnings/losses’ but you don’t have to use it. GnuCash does not require that you clear anything out at the end of the year. (and doing so can impact your ability to run