[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote: Sorry, part of my reply was about VCs below, not chemists! My reply about chemists should have been this: It is not chemists that oppose self-archiving, it's their publishers! (I've long predicted that as publishers

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread brentier
Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk a écrit : What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are visible at time of publication? None, of course! Just ask for an e-print when you are in thé ORBi web site and we'll send it at once. It's Green,

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Jan Velterop
If ever one needed an argument in favour of 'gold' OA, here it is. Jan On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:48, brent...@ulg.ac.be wrote: Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk a écrit : What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are visible at time

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM, brent...@ulg.ac.be wrote: Thanks for answering Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk a écrit : What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are visible at time of publication? None, of course! And that's

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Kiley, Robert
[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Peter Murray-Rust Sent: 13 July 2012 08:57 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kiley, Robert r.ki...@wellcome.ac.ukmailto:r.ki...@wellcome.ac.uk wrote

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Jan Velterop
July 2012 08:57 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kiley, Robert r.ki...@wellcome.ac.uk wrote: Peter Just done a quick search on PMC. There are 1059 full text articles in this repository

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Kiley, Robert r.ki...@wellcome.ac.ukwrote: Peter ** ** These 1059 articles were deposited via the ACS “open choice” option. Thanks - This is (I believe) hybrid Gold - author pays for MS to be Open in some definition of the term (but not yet CC-BY)

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Jan Velterop
In order to remove ambiguity from the discussion, I think we should make clear that: 1) it is about Open Access, not about deposit in repositories per se (though such deposit can well be one of the routes to open access as already established in Budapest over a decade ago) 2) any repositories

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I agree with Jan in the part of his intervention that I kept below. I should have said that researchers, in looking for literature, should find themselves naturally and quickly led to repositories (and OA journals). That is where the real OA advantage would begin to show up. We are far from this.