It can be very good to convene a fresh set of minds to tackle the ways to get
to open access. However, the most important point is to avoid —and reverse —
the watering down of what open access is and why it is important. The simple
message that open access means that one can do anything one
There have been a number of rather aggressive exchanges on this list recently
and some of them have contained the accusation that Stevan or one of the
other Green-first proponents are against Gold or against Libre. I would
just like to shortly and clearly re-iterate my own position on this
Stevan may well be right that the repository of the U of Liege (ORBi) contains
3,620 chemistry papers. But apart from posters, most deposits of articles
published in peer-reviewed journals, and even theses, are marked restricted
access and not accessible to me, and 'libre' access seems
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Jan Velterop velte...@gmail.com wrote:
Stevan may well be right that the repository of the U of Liege (ORBi)
contains 3,620 chemistry papers. But apart from posters, most deposits of
FOR THE PERPLEXED GOAL READER:
For the perplexed reader who is wondering what on earth all this to and fro
on GOAL is about:
1. Gratis Open Access (OA) means free online access to peer-reviewed
journal articles.
2. Libre OA means free online access to peer-reviewed journal articles +
certain
I think we are going somewhere here.
Could we manage, with the help of some foundation, manage to bring
together a number of top university administrators from all over the
world (minimum 20) to hash out exactly what could be done in a
coordinated fashion?
Moving en masse to a mandate would
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
*** The faculty ignore the mandates.
This is the reality - Wellcome, who have the sanction of withholding
grants and put huge efforts into promoting, still only get 55% compliance.
You have spent 10 years trying to
On 2012-07-12, at 11:13 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
I am not against green OA - I am arguing that the OA community should unite and
take decisive action.
Comment: I agree and disagree. May I suggest that the OA community should work
in tandem with mutual respect rather than attempting to
Let us get back to basics instead of bickering among ourselves.
How about trying to organize a high-level meeting of administrators and
see what agreement could be achieved to move forward as a group and not
through individual moves that keep on differing a little from each
other.
We need a
