[GOAL] Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button
On 2013-10-17, at 10:18 PM, dtpalmer dtpal...@hku.hk wrote: Our button is called “Contact the Author(s)?” Function is similar. It appears when we have the email address of one of the authors and when no fulltext object is attached. That's infinitesimally better than nothing -- but not depositing the full-text is no better than nothing. Half the purpose of the Button is to make it possible to mandate immediate full-text deposit, whether or not the deposit is embargoed. (The other half is is to provide Button-mediated eprints to requestors with just one extra click by the author during any embargo.) To see that the Contact Author is not much better than nothing, note that even publishers are providing live links to authors' email addresses on the publisher site of the article (where the full-text is accessible only to subscribers). Requestors still have to go to the trouble of writing out a message requesting a reprint, and authors have to find the eprint, reply and attach. We all know eprints can be requested and sent by email. All you need to know is the email address of the author. A Contact Button saves the trouble of looking it up, but not much else. The eprint-request Button (when full-text is deposited) reduces it all to just one paste-and-click for the requestor and one click for the author. If the author's institution does no more than provide a Contact Button, it's not doing anywhere near the amount of access-facilitation it could be doing if it were implemented properly: i.e., as an eprint-request Button paired with an immediate-deposit mandate (full-text). We run DSpace 1.8.2 with DSpace-CRIS Add-on. HKU libraries has a sub-institutional immediate-deposit mandate since 19 Feb 2010. http://roarmap.eprints.org/277/ Is the University doing anything to ensure that HKU authors comply? Each Libraries member... agree[s] to request permission from intended publishers… to archive the published version, or the author's manuscript in The HKU Scholars Hub… [but] regardless of the outcome [the member will] make available an electronic copy of his or her final version of the article (i.e., the author's manuscript or postprint), at no charge, to the Librarian's designate in appropriate formats (such as PDF) specified by the Librarian's Office. The Librarian's Office will make the scholarly article available to the public in an open-access repository, the HKU Scholars Hub, or its successor. Best wishes, Stevan Harnad David T Palmer Associate University Librarian Digital Strategist The University of Hong Kong Libraries 10/F Kennedy Town Centre 23 Belcher’s Street Kennedy Town Hong Kong SAR Tel. +852 3921 2921 http://hub.hku.hk/rp/rp1 image005.gif http://orcid.org/-0001-5616-4635 From: Eloy Rodrigues [mailto:e...@sdum.uminho.pt] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button Dear Stevan, I completely support the request to have the “Request Copy” functionality embedded in the “vanilla” DSpace versions. We’ve been upgrading the Request Copy Add-on (for the jsp interface, that it’s the one we are using) since we first developed it. We are currently upgrading the Add-on for DSpace 3.2 (we are upgrading our repository to DSpace 3.2), and the “production” version of the Add-on is for DSpace 1.8xx repositories. We are obviously willing to contribute the Addon code to be included in the DSpace core, and strongly support that integration. Best, image006.jpg Serviços de Documentação Eloy Rodrigues Direcção Campus de Gualtar, 4710 - 057 Braga - Portugal Telefone +351 253 604 156/7/8; Fax +351 253 604 159 Campus de Azurém, 4800 058 Guimarães Telefone +351 253 510 168; Fax +351 253 510 117 http://www.sdum.uminho.pt | Siga-nos image007.gifimage008.gif image009.jpg De: Stevan Harnad [mailto:har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk] Enviada: quinta-feira, 17 de Outubro de 2013 15:34 Para: Eloy Rodrigues; Bram Luyten; Carol Minton Morris Cc: dspace-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net; eprints-t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk List; jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk; Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Assunto: Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button Dear Eloy, Bram Carol, As Eloy was the first to adopt the Button for DSpace, could you or Bram (or anyone else) please help with this? It apparently needs an upgrade, and it's especially important to provide and embed it in DSpace core at this crucial time in the evolution of OA policy worldwide. The Button is an essential component in an effective OA mandate. http://dspace.2283337.n4.nabble.com/Re-Use-of-e-print-request-button-td4665355.html https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/RequestCopy Many thanks for any help or information you can provide, Stevan Begin forwarded message: - Original Message -
[GOAL] Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Gibson, Lyn l.gib...@napier.ac.uk wrote: Here at Edinburgh Napier University we have the “Request a copy” button. The Research Repository uses Eprints software hosted by Southampton version 3.2.3 ** ** We currently have 4039 eprints, of which only 1315 are full-text. We have a mandate which states that “research students and other members of University staff are entitled and required to deposit digital copies of refereed and accepted research documents”. ** ** Our experience of the Eprint “request a copy” button rarely results in the full-text being added to the item record. Often the request is ignored which results in e-mails being sent to the dedicated repository mailbox asking for a response. I then attempt to contact the author asking for a copy of the paper. Again often this request gets no response. Occasionally, the copy supplied is the published pdf despite asking specifically for the pre/post-print version. I also suspect that the contacted author bypasses the repository and responds to the requestor directly. I can’t put a figure on how many times this happens but there have been several occasions when the author has e-mailed the requestor directly and cc’d the repository. Dear Lyn. Thanks for the feedback. May I suggest some advice on how to fix this? The button should be configured so that it sends eprint requests only to the author's email address. If the HEFCE proposal to make immediate-deposit a requirement for eligibility for REF2020, this should help ensure that full-texts are deposited immediately, as Edinburgh Napier mandates. In addition, I suggest you look at the Liège-model mandate, which has so far proven to be the most effective OA mandate: Rentier, B., Thirion, P. (2011). The Liège ORBi model: Mandatory policy without rights retention but linked to assessment processes. http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/handle/2268/102031 Best wishes, Stevan Harnad ** ** Regards, Lyn Gibson, Data entry Edinburgh Napier Research Repository Merchiston Library 10 Colinton Road, Edinburgh EH10 5DT ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Repositories discussion list [mailto: jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Harnad *Sent:* 18 October 2013 04:04 *To:* jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk *Subject:* Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button** ** ** ** ** ** On 2013-10-17, at 10:18 PM, dtpalmer dtpal...@hku.hk wrote: Our button is called “Contact the Author(s)?” Function is similar. It appears when we have the email address of one of the authors and when no fulltext object is attached. ** ** That's infinitesimally better than nothing -- but not depositing the full-text is no better than nothing. ** ** Half the purpose of the Button is to make it possible to mandate immediate full-text deposit, whether or not the deposit is embargoed. (The other half is is to provide Button-mediated eprints to requestors with just one extra click by the author during any embargo.) ** ** To see that the Contact Author is not much better than nothing, note that even publishers are providing live links to authors' email addresses on the publisher site of the article (where the full-text is accessible only to subscribers). Requestors still have to go to the trouble of writing out a message requesting a reprint, and authors have to find the eprint, reply and attach. We all know eprints can be requested and sent by email. All you need to know is the email address of the author. A Contact Button saves the trouble of looking it up, but not much else. The eprint-request Button (when full-text is deposited) reduces it all to just one paste-and-click for the requestor and one click for the author. ** ** If the author's institution does no more than provide a Contact Button, it's not doing anywhere near the amount of access-facilitation it could be doing if it were implemented properly: i.e., as an eprint-request Button paired with an immediate-deposit mandate (full-text). We run DSpace 1.8.2 with DSpace-CRIS Add-on. ** ** HKU libraries has a sub-institutional immediate-deposit mandate since 19 Feb 2010. http://roarmap.eprints.org/277/ Is the University doing anything to ensure that HKU authors comply? ** ** *Each Libraries member... agree[s] to request permission from intended publishers… * *to archive the published version, or the author's manuscript in The HKU Scholars Hub… * *[but] regardless of the outcome [the member will] make available an electronic copy* * of his or her final version of the article (i.e., the author's manuscript or postprint), * *at no charge, to the Librarian's designate in
[GOAL] Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button
Dear Eloy, Bram Carol, As Eloy was the first to adopt the Button for DSpace, could you or Bram (or anyone else) please help with this? It apparently needs an upgrade, and it's especially important to provide and embed it in DSpace core at this crucial time in the evolution of OA policy worldwide. The Button is an essential component in an effective OA mandate. http://dspace.2283337.n4.nabble.com/Re-Use-of-e-print-request-button-td4665355.html https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/RequestCopy Many thanks for any help or information you can provide, Stevan Begin forwarded message: - Original Message - From: Hutchinson, Alvin hutchins...@si.edu To: hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:28 PM Subject: Request for information on repository request-copy Button I received a message stating that you are interested in the use of Request Copy button in repositories. We at the Smithsonian Libraries use DSpace and have employed the Request Copy button for several years. However, it is becoming problematic as the plugin does not seem to have any active development or upgrades. I'm not sure how familiar you are with DSpace but for several versions, there has been an XML user interface as well as the original JSP (java server pages) interface. The Request Copy plugin only works with *.jsp and that is very limiting. We would like to upgrade to the current version but will have to give up the functionality which many of our users like to have. Please take a minute to tell me something about your interest and your work. Best, Alvin Hutchinson Smithsonian Libraries ___ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
[GOAL] Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button
Dear Stevan, I completely support the request to have the Request Copy functionality embedded in the vanilla DSpace versions. We've been upgrading the Request Copy Add-on (for the jsp interface, that it's the one we are using) since we first developed it. We are currently upgrading the Add-on for DSpace 3.2 (we are upgrading our repository to DSpace 3.2), and the production version of the Add-on is for DSpace 1.8xx repositories. We are obviously willing to contribute the Addon code to be included in the DSpace core, and strongly support that integration. Best, Serviços de Documentação Eloy Rodrigues Direcção Campus de Gualtar, 4710 - 057 Braga - Portugal Telefone +351 253 604 156/7/8; Fax +351 253 604 159 Campus de Azurém, 4800 058 Guimarães Telefone +351 253 510 168; Fax +351 253 510 117 http://www.sdum.uminho.pt http://www.sdum.uminho.pt/ | Siga-nos http://www.facebook.com/pages/Braga-Portugal/Bibliotecas-da-Universidade-do-Minho/78518268502 http://twitter.com/bibliotecasUM De: Stevan Harnad [mailto:har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk] Enviada: quinta-feira, 17 de Outubro de 2013 15:34 Para: Eloy Rodrigues; Bram Luyten; Carol Minton Morris Cc: dspace-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net; eprints-t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk List; jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk; Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Assunto: Re: Request for information on repository request-copy Button Dear Eloy, Bram Carol, As Eloy was the first to adopt the Button for DSpace, could you or Bram (or anyone else) please help with this? It apparently needs an upgrade, and it's especially important to provide and embed it in DSpace core at this crucial time in the evolution of OA policy worldwide. The Button is an essential component in an effective OA mandate. http://dspace.2283337.n4.nabble.com/Re-Use-of-e-print-request-button-td4665355.html https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/RequestCopy Many thanks for any help or information you can provide, Stevan Begin forwarded message: - Original Message - From: Hutchinson, Alvin hutchins...@si.edu mailto:hutchins...@si.edu To: hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr mailto:hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:28 PM Subject: Request for information on repository request-copy Button I received a message stating that you are interested in the use of Request Copy button in repositories. We at the Smithsonian Libraries use DSpace and have employed the Request Copy button for several years. However, it is becoming problematic as the plugin does not seem to have any active development or upgrades. I'm not sure how familiar you are with DSpace but for several versions, there has been an XML user interface as well as the original JSP (java server pages) interface. The Request Copy plugin only works with *.jsp and that is very limiting. We would like to upgrade to the current version but will have to give up the functionality which many of our users like to have. Please take a minute to tell me something about your interest and your work. Best, Alvin Hutchinson Smithsonian Libraries image001.jpgimage002.gifimage003.gifimage004.jpg___ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
