[Goanet]Mobile Tower Phobia in Goa ?
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## - Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- Mobile Tower Phobia By Nandkumar Kamat Radiation is everywhere around us. The sunshine is not free from the skin cancer causing ultraviolet rays. This radiation is high during the afternoon. The houses built in concrete are not always free from the dangerous carcinogenic radioactive Radon gas. Our coastal beaches are not free from naturally radioactive sand deposits. People living close to high tension electric cables are not insulated from weak electromagnetic fields. There is soft X-ray radiation from every television set at a short distance. Every X-ray examination means a dose of mutagenic radiation, but within the limits prescribed. Very few X-ray clinics care to control the stray radiation. But people stay close to X-ray clinics and businesses also function without any hitch. There are giant microwave towers like those erected on top of Panaji's Altinho hill which shadows the VIP area. The entire Goa University campus is close to four tall microwave towers of All India Radio. So the microwave energy footprint baths these areas. On this background, it is quite weird to believe that the people of Goa have suddenly woken up to the perceived radio frequency energy hazards from the cell phone microwave towers. This is a classic example of the Not In My Backyard (NIMBY) syndrome. The origin of the rumour might be worth investigating. But it appears that the phobia began first in Mumbai which is already one of the worst polluted city. From Mumbai it reached Goa. Now the 'Mobile tower phobia' has spread like a virus and the government does not seem to respond to this phenomenon. People have the right to know about the radiation hazards from any technology. Their anxieties might be misplaced but their concerns could be genuine. This demands panchayat and ward level community education. The cell phone companies spend heavily on promotion of their products and services but they have not undertaken any community education about mobile tower locations. A lot of research has been done in the western countries in this regard from the angle of consumer safety. Elaborate guidelines have been evolved for the location of the towers. It is the duty of the state government to lay down such guidelines for the cell phone companies for locating the mobile towers in urban and rural areas. The present mobile tower phobia is a result of the people's fear, ignorance and distrust of the technology. People who oppose mobile towers should not patronise the cell phones if they do not trust the technology. It would be absurd to oppose mobile towers and use the cell phones to spread the phobia. Because cell phones also emit microwave radiation but not as much as would cause brain damage. All technologies have risks which the consumers are willing to accept. Relatively speaking, Cell phone is a novel technology in India. But in the USA it is already old and people don't panic at the sight of mobile towers. An authority on the human health aspects of mobile towers, which are known as mobile phone or cell phone base stations, the professor of radiation oncology, John Moulder of Medical College of Wisconsin has compiled the present knowledge on this subject in a PDF file (about 65 pages, with a big list of research papers and reports) which can be downloaded (http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop/cell-phone-health-FAQ/toc.html) by anyone from the Internet for self education or community education. It was updated on October 15, 2004. I have already e-mailed this document to the chief minister and the chief secretary of Goa and marked copies to all the leading local newspapers besides the registrar of the Goa bench of the Judicature of Mumbai for their knowledge. The essence of this document, based on the latest scientific evidence is that unless one is standing directly in front of a mobile tower, there are no health risks. But locational guidelines are important and Prof Moulder has provided the required references in this regard. A serious reading of this document would convince anyone opposed to mobile towers that mobile towers are safe and there are other hazards which are perhaps more serious. The main issue is the absence of a siting or locational policy in the zoning plans. On November 24, I had e-mailed to the chief minister on this point. I have given clear explanation
Re: [Goanet] Mahatma Gandhi's Selective Pacifism
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## 1. Your refusal to respond to the specifics of my postings can only be because you are unable to do so. There is no other acceptable excuse. 2. If shining a light on your strident and emotional opposition to the American-led liberation of Iraq, the alternative of which was a continuation of the Saddam Hussein regime, is demonizing you, then I stand guilty as charged. By the way, I have no idea why you oppose freedom and democracy for the Iraqis because you refuse to explain yourself. 3. I'm sorry, but I don't take anyone's words, spoken 60 years ago, literally, without proper context and perspective, and correlation with his actions at the time. 4. OK. I hear you. You do not support Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. You only oppose the regime change of Saddam Hussein for reasons we are still waiting to hear. And you are not a pacifist yourself, though you approvingly promote the pacifist quotes of Mahatma Gandhi and take these literally. I get it now. 5. Until you provide specific responses to points made in a posting or a private email, we have no idea where you stand on any issue, other that you like or do not like what has been said, and we are not supposed to question anything you say. --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please calm down and accept my apologies for personalizing my comments on the Gandhi quotes, which was the wrong thing to do.
Re: [Goanet]Re: Sea Harrier crash lands at the Naval air station at DABOLIM AIRPORT
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conforms to the PRO's statement about crashing while touching down. It is not clear, however, what the flight trajectory had to do with the crash unless the plane had gone out of control. I reckon that is navyspeak (or gobbledegook) for pilot error. I am told that there was loads of grease on the touch down area causing the plane to wobble and topple. B. Colaco ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: Hats off to our Chief minister
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## It is not hats off, but the CM has turned Goa into such a state that Goans will have no other option but to do pants off to get their next meal. Any criteria for something to be considered on the Internatinal map? Which world does this Rabin Gonsalves live in? Only net effect of IFFI. Rs. 150 crores from Goan tax payers goes to Parikar's cronies. Rest effect is zilch. Also, the story about Goa being next only to 4 metros is also not true. Thanks to the IT industry, even smaller places such as Pune, Tiruvanathapuram, Mangalore are making great strides and have left Goa far behind. regards, Samir Kelekar rags677 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tremendous success of the IFFI, the effiencenty manged exposition in old goa has put goa on the international map. This has been possible due to the vision, will and determination of one man manohar parrikar under whose steadfast leadership a team of commited beaurcrats and other citizens worked tirelessly. There is still a long way to go as far as development of goa is concerned, but i am sure everyone will agree that leaving aside the four metros, goa can be considered far better than most other indian cities. Many has criticized IFFI as being a case of misplaced priorities. Some criticize the shortcommings of the festival, but nobody is perfect and what is important is to learn from one's mistakes. But i guess we should all join in and give our CM a high five!!. he truly deserves it. Well Done Manohar parrikar. Rabindranth Gonsalves
[Goanet]SFX Exposition
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hello. I'm a Singaporean, visiting Goa from 20-23 Dec in order to see the Exposition of the Body of St Francis Xavier. I am writing an article on the subject. Would anyone happen to know people I could interview? My interest in this is historical, but I am hoping to speak with members of the religious establishments, or else long-time Goan residents who might be able to shed some light on the Exposition. Many thanks Shashi
[Goanet]18 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 18, 2004. DGP'S POST TO BE RETAINED: In a surprising development, the State Cabinet on December 15 decided to retain the post of the Director General of Police by reversing the earlier decision taken on 12 November this year. (GT) STUDENTS GHERAO GU REGISTRAR: High drama was witnessed in Margao at the premises of Kare Law College as the students from two institutions gheraoed Registrar of Goa University, Dr Jayant Budkuley, in connection with the LLB degree course semester examination results for over four hours. The students of Kare Law College were joined by students of Salgaocar Law College, Miramar, as they surrounded the Registrar and expressed their dissatisfaction about the failure of a majority of the students and sought an explanation from him for the poor results, amidst noisy scenes. 67 students were arrested as they did not allow the Registrar to leave the college premises. There were 35 female students among those arrested. (GT) BJP SEEKS ACTION: The BJP has demanded that the government initiate criminal proceedings against MLA Luizinho Faleiro and then managing director M Modassir of the Economic Development Corporation Ltd following their indictment by the Pendse Commission of Inquiry in illegalities to the tune of Rs.117.7 crore. (GT) POWER FAILURES HAUNT CANDOLIM, CALANGUTE: Despite being an internationally recognised tourist centre and providing a major chunk of foreign exchange to the State's exchequer, the northern coastal belt, comprising the villages of Calangute and Candolim, can often be found in pitch darkness or close to that. The situation appears to be getting out of hand even as tourists, some of who have been visiting the State for several years, are vowing that this will be their last visit to Goa. (GT) GOVT SCHOOL ADOPTION SCHEME: In what may be called the first round, a total of 71 applications have been received by the department of Education in response to the scheme for adoption of government primary and middle schools. From a total of 300 government primary and middle schools being considered for adoption, many have poor enrollment strength of les than 20 students. (H) SAMRAAT SANGEET SAMMELAN: Art Culture Minister Ramrao Dessai inaugurated a three-day Samraat Sangeet Sammelan, a national conference of Indian classical music in the precincts of Shree Shantadurga Temple, Kavlem, Ponda, on December 17. Dessai stated that the state government will sanction Rs.7.50 lakh for the sammelan. (GT) CHAURASIA MAGIC: The captivating evening raga Yaman played by the celebrated flautist, Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, on December 17 evening, set the tone for the three-day Master Dinanath Mangueshkar Smriti Samraat Sangeet Sammelan. (NT) WOMAN RESCUE FROM WELL: A 75-year-old woman, Nooruddin Musafir, was rescued from a well in Damani, Cuncolim, just after midnight on December 14, after she jumped into it to end her life. (GT) MURDER VICTIM IDENTIFIED: The 30-year-old woman who was brutally killed barely a few days ago in Ponda, has been identified as Channav Shivayya Marihal, a native of Hubli-Karnataka. Channava was killed with her face smashed with a stone. Reliable sources disclosed that the murderer may be a close relative of the deceased. (H) RAPE CONVICT GETS 7-YR RI: A Fast Track Court on December 17 sentenced one Sidappa alias raja Zamuni of Khareband, Margao, to seven years rigorous imprisonment for raping a minor school girl on September 23, 2000, in the rear room of the house of the accused. (H) ASSAGAO LOCAL HELD: A 53-year-old man from Assagao has been arrested by Mapusa police on charges of forgery. According to PI Sammy Tavares, the accused Joseph Bernard Nazareth, approached a local firm 'Computer World' and placed an order for a rubber stamp of the Marna-Siolim panchayat. Mr Nazareth identified himself as one of the staff of the panchayat. When Nazareth came to collect the rubber stamp along with a letter of authority, the dealing clerk of the firm noticed some discrepancies in the stamp on the letter of authority, which did not tally with the one he had ordered. (H) SSC RESULTS: The results of SSC examination of October 2004 will be declared on December 21 at 11 am. The results will be available on website www.goaeduboard.org on December 21, from 11 am. (H) NEW LOOK FOR SONSODDO: Claude Alvares of Goa Foundation on Friday (Dec 17) said that the Sonsoddo garbage site would have a new look before the monsoon season begins. Alvares said the Goa Foundation would take up the site and treat the waste scientifically, at the same time training workers of Margao Municipal Council to handle the same in a professional manner. In
[Goanet]Re: Defence Committee visiting Dabolim in Jan 2005 (Gabriel de Figueiredo)
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Thanks Gabriel, will access the sites and get cracking on whatever is needed. Diana
[Goanet]GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hello Goanetters That is real refreshing news of the present Government, and the best part is that it will be located near KTC. Can always pop in before boarding the bus. Will get more people interested in the reading habit, which has been dying gradually. At last I can say Thank you Manohar Parekar for thinking of this plan. Hope the construction of the library itself will be an architectural wonder for Goa. Cheers Jerry Fernandes GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 16, 2004 RS.15 CR FOR NEW LIBRARY: The Goa government approved on December 15 a Rs.15-crore project to set up a new 'Central Library' at a 4,461 square-metre site adjacent to the KTC bus-stand on the outskirts of the capital city. (H) _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Re: IFFI Post Mortem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## A question -- though belated -- needs to be asked about the ability of the Times of India to talk about IFFI, considering that 360 Degrees, the firm which got a major contract for the IFFI itself, is part of the group which publishes The Times of India. Wouldn't this amount to a conflict of interest? FN Conflict of interest may be an overstatement in this case since two separate (though admittedly related) entities are involved. Exercising its editorial independence, TOI began by trying to give an appropriate build up to IFFI. Later it, to its credit, it recognised the force of Remo's salvo against IFFI and carried a report about it. Now that the dust has settled it is trying to boost its credibility (albeit marginally) by carrying a suitably critical letter to the editor. So not much harm done, I guess. In the meantime 360 Degrees has presumably got paid for its work for IFFI and doesnt have to bother about what TOI says or doesnt say. I myself am a bit puzzled why TOI couldnt summon up enough courage so far to run a Point/Counterpoint column on the edit page devoted to IFFI. Maybe they will have a Sunday debate on this if the topic is still deemd to be of national interest.
[Goanet]Who reads konkanni?
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hello Goanetters, As Nagesh has said, How manyGoans speak Konkani at home, I would like to say about my experiences of Konkani. Burgeaponnar, konkani ulloitalom, amchi mai bas dekun, vachunk passun shinklom konnancho adar ghenastanam. Zaite book vachlet, pun zorui amche irmitin amcho povit korar asta to konkani baxen asta, to mat vachunk nam, bestich birant distali, soglea lokan fudden ravon vachpak. Kortam kortam, kollege kabar zali, kednam inglis picturanchi ruch lagli gommonkuch nam, soglim panch vorsam (most Saturdays, kiteak Mapuca Alankar theaterant tea tempar every Saturday Sunday English picture dakaitalet matinee show) kollegichim, picturam pollelin fokot inglis, thodim bov hindi, pun chodd inglis, kortam kortam, inglis ulloupachi ruch lagli, book vachit ravlom, pun inglizin, kitle book vachlet te foboruch nam, konkani vachpak atam titli avodd lagunk nam, kiteak chodd book naslet amche librarint (Mapuca Muncipal Library), mapxeam ek private library assa called Ceco library, tacho member zaun zaitech book vachlet. Tevui inglizin, Tinga kaim konkani book naslet. Gara bair chodd ingliz bas ulloupak laglom, ani tossoch gulf desant paulom. Titli chotrai diunkuch nam, ki anv goemkar zaun inglis ulloitam munn. Ek dis mojea eka amigan maka muntlem, zannoi jerry, anv zaitea goemkaram koddem ulloilam, pun tuje koddem ulloup matxem auchit, ani anvem vincharlem koxxe baxen? Ani tannem zabab dilo, ki anv zorui konkni suru kortam pun modem inglis utram galtam jim konknintlean augod lagtat tim, zalla baxen anv inglis munis, pun dusre inglis suru kortat ani noklo tim utram konkanint muntat, meaning not fluent in English. Anv chodd abari amchea mumbai cuddacho, jinga gulf desant san porot indiek aillom tednam Mumbai shirvisek ravlom, ani kuddan sogle konkani ulloitalet tanche borobor ravon, porot moji konkani ulloupachi sonvoi vaddli. Atam anv chodd korun konkani ulloitam, gara tossoch bair. Atam porot gulf dessant shirvis kortam ani kan soddanch fulloun ravtam, konn goemkar meltat te polloupak, ani rokdench amchem channel komes kortam. Anvem iskolan astonam mat zaito mar khala ticherancho for Hindi language, muntoch devanagri konkani maka zalear ekdom augod lagta, ordim voir utram somzonant. So who are the main beneficiaries of devanagri? Maje baxen goddiek zaite goemkar astolet zankam devanagri konkani vachunk ena. Muntoch tannim kitem korpachem? Viva Goa Viva konkani, magtam amchi romi lek konkanik mevonk favo to man ani podvi in schools and also job preferences. Jerry Fernandes From: Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Who reads konkanni? Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:53:15 » Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred, I think before anybody talks about Reading Konkanni, the question that needs to be addressed is, How many Goans speak Konkanni in their homes? - especially overseas. I think that if you speak the language, it will be easier to read and comprehend. As a Goan who speaks Konkanni on a daily basis, I don't find it hard to read, in Devnagari or in Roman script. I do find it easier to write in Devnagari script. We had discussed on Goanet in the past, about the spoken Konkanni v/s the written one. I have observed that a lot of the Indians in the US with a Hindi background, converse with each other in Hindi. That is not the case always about Goans, who tend to make more use of English. So, any amount of Konkanni literature, devised with all the modern methods and gadgets maybe of little use to those who really don't have the basics of Konkanni. All of us have picked up the language, more by listening to it than reading it. Nagesh _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Highway from Pernem to Pollem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hello Goanetters Where is this place Pollem? I happened to check the lonely planet on Goa for some information about this place, but there wasnt any information, so if this place is not mentioned on one of the best travel guides of the world, than why this Highway for this place, what will it benefit the rest of the Goans, is the present Government planning to start Industries there where by Goans can get employment? Will it be another investment by our Government for future? The uncertain future? Is it modernizing Pollem after Panjim? Without doing anything good for the rest of Goans? Cheers Jerry Fernandes Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:59:56 #54093; (GMT) From: joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Highway from Pernem to Pollem Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following editorial appeared in todays,Oherald: (www.oherald.com) Do we need this Can we afford such a project the decision by the State government to go ahead with the four lane Pernem to Polem highway may sound grandiose. But can the State government afford such a project and is it feasible. Does Goa need such mega projects and will they benefit the State in the long run. Does Goa need a 105 km super expressway death trap, where vehicles can speed in excess of 100 km? Yes do we need this project? No doubt progress is inevitable in the State but at what cost? With 12,000 cars traveling on the old Mumbai-Pune highway, an average of 400 people per year were killed due to accidents which saw the construction of the Mumbai-Pune expressway. The reason the old Mumbai-Pune highway passed through thickly populated towns such as Lonavala and Khandala, with narrow roads which often resulted in fatalities. Built at a cost of Rs 1630 core, the 94 km long Mumbai-Pune expressway has reduced travel from five hours to three and a half hours as vehicles zoomed along at speeds of 80 to 120 kmph. But can the Goan exchequer afford such projects? Will the State government take the same precautions from Pernem to Polem to stop people and cattle from straying on to this highway like was done on the Mumbai-Pune expressway with the help of fences? Consider National Highway 17, which runs from Maharashtra to Karwar, which traverses through numerous villages, towns and cities. Everyday there is some accident reported, either a death or a grievous injury. One shudders to think what will be the toll if we have a four-lane highway traversing the entire State? And most importantly can Goa afford such an investment? Could not that money be spent on more essential facilities? How about improving facilities at Goa Medical College, patients complain that there are no syringes in the hospital. Buy better equipment for the public hospitals; increase the funding of Goa University, whose budget has been slashed from Rs 13 crores to Rs 5 crores. Open more sewage plants, use the money to remove M V River Princess, resurface Goas internal roads. The list can go on these are issues of essence and importance. Something which Goa needs desperately. Yes, let us spend on critical areas like education, power and health. This is what Goa needs and not highways to death. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Goa and migrants
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Santoshi do you mean Texas prospers with the large amounts of hangings it conducts. Loads of coffins and funeral pyres I guess? How did you land in the US is it by the voyager of Branson? B. Colaco Goa is a state of India, just as Texas is a state of U.S.A. Migration to Texas from other states is not controlled. Kashmiris from Missouri sell their fake goods from Macau in Texas. Texas contributes a lot to the prosperity of U.S.A. Cheers, Santosh ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]RRe: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God help you Canadians if you consider the Globe Mail a right wing publication. No wonder you have developed such a contempt for freedom and democracy for the Afghans and the Iraqis, while enjoying it for yourselves, under the protection of the US, with a security force smaller than the NYPD. Mario, 1) I read The Globe and Mail daily, do you? 2) Afghan warlords are producing more heroin for the US markets today, than when the Taliban were in power. 3) We are quite happy with the situation of the US paying for our defence. :-) 4) Canadians have voted time and time again that their #1 priority is to use the tax system to pay for all health expenses. The system is the envy of the world. As such, a Canadian resident does not have to worry as to what happens to the family financially, when a member is diagnosed with a major disease. Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
[Goanet]Niallunk
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Niallunk Sonsnikaechea margar ube zatat kantte Kantteank bhieon chintnache korinakai vantte Rochnnaracher thir patieun kantteantlean chol Kantteam vorvim ugtte zait sorginche darvontte. Daniel F. de Souza Vasco, Goem 18-12-2004
[Goanet]Goa: 14 cases of child abuse before childrens court in two weeks
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## 14 cases of child abuse before childrens court in two weeks NT Staff Reporter Panaji Dec 17: Two weeks into its functioning, fourteen cases relating to the abuse of children have been placed before the Childrens Court of Goa, set up under the Goa Childrens Act, 2003. The first of its kind in the country, the Goa Childrens Court meets once every Friday; it first met on December 10 and again today. While eight matters came up on the board last Friday, 11 matters including some miscellaneous applications and two bail applications and were on the board today. But only preliminary hearings have been conducted so far, no case has come up to the trial stage yet. The court deals exclusively with offences against minors, which according to the Goa Childrens Act, have been defined as children under the age of 18, both male and female. Senior court staff said that the cases before the court are basically rapes on minors girls, committed either in a secluded place or in hotel rooms. One special feature of the Goa Childrens Act is that if the rape on the minor is committed in a hotel, its owner and manager are liable for prosecution. The aim of the Act, after all, is to prevent child abuse. Incidentally, both bail applications heard today were from two owners of hotels. One was from Mr Jose Menino Luis, owner of the guest-house in St Jose de Areal, where the main accused Altaf Sayed raped a minor girl on November 14. The second application was from Mr Joasinho Rodrigues, owner of a hotel in Curchorem, where another accused, Agostinho Gama raped another minor girl on November 29. Both were granted bail today; Mr Luis on his second attempt and Mr Rodrigues on his third. In his order, the president of the Children court, Mr A D Salkar noted that the records show that the offences attributed to the bail applicants are not tourism-related child sexual abuse. He also noted that the records show that the offence under Section 8(10) of the Goa Childrens Act, is punishable with fine only. Looking into the facts of the case from any angle, the offences fall under the category of bailable offences, Mr Salkar noted. While earlier rape cases against minors were dealt with in regular courts, now offences against minor children will be dealt with by the childrens court. The punishments are more severe; besides attracting provisions of the Indian Penal Code, offenders also attract sections of the Goa Childrens Act. Offenders charged for grave sexual assault will attract punishment of between 7 to 10 years and a fine of Rs 2 lakh. Offenders have to deposit 75 per cent of the fine before the case begins. A common public misconception regarding the childrens court is that it is the same as the Juvenile Justice Board functioning at Bal Niketan, Merces. It was earlier referred to as the childrens court. But senior staff of the Goa childrens court pointed out that the Juvenile Justice Board handles cases where children are the offenders or accused. On the other hand, the Goa childrens court deals with cases where the children are the victims.
Re: [Goanet]Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the warning! Thanks for being concerned about us from the safety of Canada. I wish you were just as concerned about the fate of almost 25 million Iraqis, who have never experienced the freedom and democracy that you seem to take for granted. But don't you think the Goans in US are more capable of arriving at a rational decision of whether to stay or leave, than you mis-informed anti-Americans, who seem to so strongly oppose the effort to bring freedom and democracy to that embattled region? Mario, My real concern is centred on the fate of American teenagers that are being sent to Iraq. Last night, I stopped at a gas station in Terre Haute, Indiana. There was a flyer above the cash register begging for support for our teenagers in Iraq. Among the items needed were: cash, pens (not in boxes) Q-tips, etc. I am sure you are aware that anyone who drives a SUV is interested in cheap oil prices, so I dropped my 31 cents change into the collection box. That was the extent of my gratefulness to those who sent their teenage children to Iraq. Just to further your education in these matters, the reason the US gave up the draft is that a) they have sufficient volunteers to maintain the force levels they need, b) they have surplus forces currently protecting the Germans from drinking too much beer, and the S. Koreans from eating too much kimchi, which can be used if necessary, c) they found that it not efficient to draft and train people for short stints, and continue this endless cycle, when they have sufficient volunteers. So, according to the world of Mario Goveia: Germans drink too much beer. S. Koreans eat too much kimchi. The Globe and Mail is a left wing publication :-) The US is in Iraq to promote democracy. Yes, indeed, your vision is simple. Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet]NEWS: Goa's ex-CM indicted in financial scam
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A judicial commission has indicted Goa's former chief minister Luizinho Faleiro in a financial racket involving Rs 100 crore. --- This means that without any IFFI-type event, Congress-former CM looted twice the amount spent and the local patrakars instead of making a hue and a cry including ex-Herald's editor, kept silent, until these very patrakars were made to know about it by the Justice Pandse Report? Surely a lot of tourists (including the binktankars) and a host of UK Goans lost a good opportunity of viewing the films shown at Miramar free! AlmeidaG(ji) __ Do you Yahoo!? Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Goanet] All Colin Powell's fault!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## If you read the posting that Tariq was facetiously responding to you may agree that he was being at least mean-spirited and insensitive, or you may join him in his sentiments. You seem to consistently specialize in emotional responses without making any reference to the basic facts of the matter. --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq, No, you can't. Are you as stupid and insensitive as this postings would indicate? Tariq is a very smart and sensitive man. He does not deserve to be called stupid and insensitive in a public forum. His postings are also no more stupid and insensitive than those of the above poster. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE: ORDER ON 24th DEC
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Aires: Firstly, thanks for keeping us informed about this case. Secondly, no-thanks for peppering the inputs with a lot of motivated suggestions, innuendo and hidden allegations the truth of which we will only know after the judgement is out. It's unfair, they say, to play the role of judge, jury and hangman all rolled into one. One could suggest that it's also not-quite-fair to play the role of activist-lawyer-journalist on a case which one has taken a personal interest in. I am willing to concede, however, that the Press has largely let us down on this case, with some sections almost blacking out the issue completely, and other sections of the media sensationalising it. Added to it, we in the media in Goa have a poor reputation for following up issues -- unlike papers like the Indian Express, which have shown how thoroughness on such a track can make a difference. Nevertheless, the media failings is no justification for one-sided reporting. Incidentally, it's tough to see why you pillory Ms Ezilda D'Souza. From what you have reported earlier, it appears that she has stated that, because of religious reasons, she has a conflict of interests and wants to be taken off that case. That seems to be the right thing to do. When you say the 'court was told' below, by whom? The fact that you are making yourself invisible (if my assumption is right) would also suggest a conflict of interest in this lawyer-activist-journalist role. Please don't take these comments as directed at you out of malice or for motivated reasons. Overall, I think you're doing a good job in highlighting the issue of sexual impropriety by people in authority (including in religion), which can be expected to become increasingly important an issue in the times ahead. It's only that I have my reservations about the way in which you're doing it ;-) FN
Re: [Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Mario, Do you know of any community who doesn't believe that their own food is the greatest in the world? The English? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Oh, yes, I can. Heven't you heard that Chicken Tikka Masala is now the favorite dish among the English, and I'm talking the colorless English, not just the colored ones. As for the charge of culinary narcissism and gullet-based chauvinism, I will gladly and mouth-wateringly plead guilty as charged. Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Mario Goveia wrote: We're OK, but it is our GOAN FOOD that is the GREATEST in the world. Hi Mario, Do you know of any community who doesn't believe that their own food is the greatest in the world? It's called cullinary-narcissism. You could even call it gullet-based chauvinism. FN
[Goanet]£900 TO HELP STREET CHILDREN IN INDIA
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## 0 From Goan Voice Uk http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ #900 TO HELP STREET CHILDREN IN INDIA 16 Dec. North Devon Journal. Maureen Charters of Barnstaple has raised #900 to help give street children in Goa a better life. collected the sum through a fund-raising evening of Indian food and music and from a Christmas Bazaar. The money will go to the Children Walking Tall charity which aims to provide a drop in centre for deprived youngsters in Goa. more details.. http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/
[Goanet]Goan togetherness.. Club de Goa celebrates Liberation night on the 18th Dec
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Club de Goa in Brisbane is having a Karaoke dinner at a restaurant on the 18th night being a saturday to bring in 19th Dec, Goa Liberation day to promote Goan Peace and would like you guys to also join in all over and say a small prayer that day .. to Promote World Wide Goan Unity. We definetly will. A prayer does not cost anything and can achieve more than money spent on functions that we continuously deliver to our members all over the world to make us happy. Goans have settled all over the world and we still see pettiness in Goans so please spread this around to other Goan organizations so they may at least pray for a few minutes on that day. Imagine what we could achieve spiritually if this worked. God Bless Goans!!! Viva Goa Joy de Souza President (Club de Goa) Tel . 07 (3341 8912)
Re: [Goanet]Goenkars don't emigrate to N. America please........
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Gabe, The article you have cited was about the US, not N. America, and it is true that Americans by-and-large are what we call fat and sassy, and benign until provoked. Since you live in the UK, where I have lived before and would not live again if my life depended on it, the following excerpt from another Goanet posting may be instructive: Indian Americans have surged forward as the most successful Asian minority in the United States, reporting top levels of income, education, professional job status and English-language ability, even though three-fourths were foreign-born, according to U.S. census data released Wednesday. The above is an understatement because it refers to only Asians, whereas Indians in the USA have ranked No.1 in family income by ethnic group across all American citizens, since the 1980 census. And, we're working on our weight as well. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Those already there, try making violent love to burn the Calories. http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2004/12/16/wfat16.xml Moving to US can damage waistline By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles (Filed: 16/12/2004) There is a flip side to the American dream, medical researchers have discovered. Moving to the United States can make you fat.
[Goanet]Creepy Times 13
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Friends, Its been quite a while since The Creepy Times was out and around. I have been awfully busy with work and studies - not to mention winning Young Naturalist AwardsAh yesAaron Lobo and I were awarded two erawards for our work with snakes and conservation. The award was given to us by Sanctuary Magazine in coordination with ABN-AMRO bank. Both of us are very happy to receive it. To give you a gist of the award, awardees, and ceremony I am including an article written by good friend Ethel DCosta. Only she carried our names in a lifestyle magazine Groove of which she is the editor. The other papers were too busy with the Film Festival and filming Bollywood actors to find space for our mugs in their newspapers! Other than the young naturalist awards there were also lifetime service awards and a green teacher award. The other winners were all very nice people and I think if would be great if you knew about them as well! There is not much space for me to include information on them as well. But you could read about them and the awards by clicking on www.sanctuaryasia.com *** Goas snake charmers People can make a difference. This simple truth is often ignored amidst the confusion and problems that beset the world today. Im a nature buff, as close as time and space permits. But nature conservation is serious business, involving a passion for hard work and commitment, as Rahul Alvares and Aaron Lobo know too well. The duo got into the spotlight this week winning the `Young Naturalist Award 2004 at a glittering function held at the NCPA, Mumbai, for their efforts to protect Goas vanishing wildlife. For us at `Groove, and indeed Goa, it is a proud moment. On a personal note, Rahul does me proud as a buddy in music, aspiration and goals. Calls for a celebratory rock concert, Rahul. Supported by ABN Amro and Sanctuary Magazine, the idea of the Wildlife Awards began in 2000, to recognise the efforts of individuals working to protect Indias vanishing wildlife and hence bring the wildlife defenders into the public gaze. Each year, four young naturalists are chosen from entries (750 this year) all over the country through vote or nomination. The laurels since have been many. But this is a first for Goa and a double whammy at that. Nursing a viral cold but jubilant nevertheless, Rahul shares the experience as Great. I met so many new people including actor Rahul Bose who emceed the show. A naturalist, author and snake expert all in one, Rahuls rescue work with snakes and turtle conservation at Morjim is well known. Currently doing his MSc in ecology and environment, his writing on wildlife and website `Creepy Times has a fan following of its own. Aaron Lobo is a cool dude and obsessed with snakes too, particularly sea snakes. A one-year dissertation on the distribution and status of snakes in coastal Goa won him a scholarship to do his M.Sc. in Wildlife Science from the Wildlife Institute of India. A six-month study to estimate the diversity and mortality of sea snakes in Goa won him the respect of India's finest wildlife conservation biologists and an award from the University of Cambridge. He has worked on the ecology of the dog-faced water snake in the Sálim Ali Bird Sanctuary, Goa and will be soon starting work in the Gulf of Mannar, studying the areas sea snake population and the threats they face. Together, they serve as examples of the power of youth and dedication to a cause that is Goas wildlife. Could we have more youth fire from the rest please? Well done, boys. By Ethel Da Costa *** Wildlife Photography Awards FIRST PRIZE: Flight of an Angel - Dr. Manoj Sindhgi The image of a Small Green Bee-eater hawking an insect in mid-flight won our vote for its symmetry, composition and technical quality. This bee-eater was captured on film in a forest on the outskirts of Bangalore city. Natures wonders are on display in our own backyard, if we only pay attention. SECOND PRIZE: Cicada Transformation - Hira Punjabi The photographer spotted this cicada while wandering the forests of Matheran at dusk. Entranced, he recorded this spectacle on film, using a torch to overcome the darkness. The perfect lighting brings out the exquisite turquoise hue of the cicada as it emerges from its moult. THIRD PRIZE: Life and Death - N.K. Arun Kumar This tigress is dragging its chital kill to the bushes where, the photographer informs us, its hungry cubs were waiting. The female had killed the deer in the morning and stood guard over it for the entire day. The big cat can be seen
[Goanet]CHILD RIGHTS DAY CELEBRATIONS AT ST. XAVIERS
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## CHILD RIGHTS DAY CELEBRATIONS AT ST. XAVIERS A REPORT On the occasion of the Child Rights Day, the Child Labour Cell organized recently an informal programme for child workers from the Mapusa Market. The children were collected from their open school and some were brought from the market place. Altogether 27 children came to the College by the forty years old College bus, which did an additional duty of providing a joy ride to the children. Soon after arrival, lunch was promptly served which was relished. The post- lunch session was filled with excitement for the children. Different games were played with forfeits and prizes for the winners. They were asked to sing songs of their choice, which included some in their own mother tongues, which they did with a lot of enjoyment. After an exciting games session, a drawing competition was held. The kids could draw anything they pleased. The results were surprisingly very good; there were houses, kids, fountains and parks. They were given prizes for the best drawings. The day ended with the children leaving for their homes in the College bus, taking with them small takeaways of biscuits and chocolate bars. Ms. Saayed Rizwana Co-ordinator (Child Labour Cell)
Re: [Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Mario Goveia wrote: We're OK, but it is our GOAN FOOD that is the GREATEST in the world. Hi Mario, Do you know of any community who doesn't believe that their own food is the greatest in the world? It's called cullinary-narcissism. You could even call it gullet-based chauvinism. FN
Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Ronald, Are you having a problem understanding what I write, or are you so blinded by left-wing idealogy that you can't even bear to face the facts? All of this has been said before, but you don't seem to get it: 1. No one believes Saddam was involved in 9/11. 2. The 9/11 Commission report detailed numerous links between Saddam's Iraq and Al Qaeda. Why do you guys think Al Qaeda would be active all over the world, except Iraq, a major supporter of terrorism? 3. Saddam never provided an accounting for his WMDs, and there are 17 UN resolutions, crippling economic sanctions on Iraq, and finally a regime change to prove it. What happened to the WMDs is still a question that people are speculating about. If he destroyed them, that why did he accept all that grief? 4. No one has denied the abuses at Abu Ghraib, and in case you are also reading the Canadian media, some of the abusers have been convicted and prosecution of the others is continuing. 5. Iraq is NOT calm, but it is free from Saddam's brutal regime and democratic elections are planned for January 2004. In 14 out of 18 Iraqi provinces there is no conflict. It took 4 to 7 years after WW-II to pacify and democratize Japan and Germany. 6. Afghanistan is not a benign democratic ocean, but it is also free from the brutality of the Taliban, and have just had the first elections in their history, with over 90% of registered voters voting, risking their lives to do so. Is this a problem for you? 7. Young Americans are still enlisting to join the US armed forces, and, inspite of brutal attacks on them by the insurgents, young Iraqis are enlisting to join their security forces as well. What amazes me is how some Goenkars can't focus on the facts, are so resolutely insensitive or ignorant of what life was like for the Afghans under the Taliban and for the Shia and Kurds under Saddam's brutal regime, and seem to so vehemently oppose freedom and democracy for the 50 million Afghans and Iraqis. What could be wrong in bringing freedom and democracy to 50 million people who have never experienced it before? Look in the mirror before you respond with another round of misinformation you have not read here. Ronald Albuquerque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
Re: [Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Most Goans are like any other people in the world--just NORMAL human beings. I'd hate us to be pretentious and confused, and to think of ourselves as different or special compared to others, and consequently, an ABNORMAL laughing stock. Cornel
[Goanet]New Book on Kenya
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Am sending this info just in case there are some ex-Kenya or E.A. Goans interested:- A new book SCRAM FROM KENYA has just been published. Author James Franks. Some years ago, Franks visited me to discuss his project. Bief excerpt from the blurb: Researched with an academic thoroughness, but written in a clear and lively style, this is a book which demands a place on the shelvs of all students of imperialism and its aftermath in the African continent. The book is a chequered journey from Colony to Republic, and draws upon personal account -many never published before, from both sides of the divide. The author moves with n even-handedness through such contentious issus as the Mau Mau uprising, settler fears and recriminations, relations between the races and the tensions of the Lancaster House conference in London. I hope this is of interest to some. Franks e-mail address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Book price @£18+p +p(Hardback;£14 +pp(paperback) Regards Mervyn Maciel
[Goanet]You Are Invited.....
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## To All My Loved Ones, As you well know, we are getting closer to my birthday. Every year there is a celebration in my honor and I think that this year the celebration will be repeated. During this time there are many people shopping for gifts, there are many radio announcements, TV commercials, and in every part of the world everyone is talking that my birthday is getting closer and closer. It is really very nice to know, that at least once a year, some people think of me. As you know, the celebration of my birthday began many years ago. At first people seemed to understand and be thankful of all that I did for them, but in these times, no one seems to know the reason for the celebration. Family and friends get together and have a lot of fun, but they don't know the meaning of the celebration. I remember that last year there was a great feast in my honor. The dinner table was full of delicious foods, pastries, fruits, assorted nuts and chocolates. The decorations were exquisite and there were many, many beautifully wrapped gifts. But, do you want to know something? I wasn't invited. I was the guest of honor and they didn't remember to send me an invitation. The party was for me, but when that great day came, I was left outside, they closed the door in my face and I wanted to be with them and share their table. In truth, that didn' t surprise me because in the last few years all close their doors to me. Since I wasn't invited, I decided to enter the party without making any noise. I went in and stood in a corner. They were all drinking; there were some who were drunk and telling jokes and laughing at everything. They were having a grand time. To top it all, this big fat man all dressed in red wearing a long white beard entered the room yelling Ho-Ho-Ho! He seemed drunk. He sat on the sofa and all the children ran to him, saying: Santa Claus, Santa Claus as if the party were in his honor At 12 Midnight all the people began to hug each other; I extended my arms waiting for someone to hug me and ... do you know ... no one hugged me. Suddenly they all began to share gifts. They opened them one by one with great expectation. When all had been opened, I looked to see if, maybe, there was one for me. What would you feel if on your birthday everybody shared gifts and you did not get one? I then understood that I was unwanted at that party and quietly left. Every year it gets worse. People only remember to eat and drink, the gifts, the parties and nobody remembers me. I would like this Christmas that you allow me to enter into your life. I would like that you recognize the fact that almost two thousand years ago I came to this world to give my life for you, on the cross, to save you. Today, I only want that you believe this with all your heart. I want to share something with you. As many didn't invite me to their party, I will have my own celebration, a grandiose party that no one has ever imagined, a spectacular party. I'm still making the final arrangements. Today I am sending out ma ny invitations and there is an invitation for you. I want to know if you wish to attend and I will make a reservation for you and write your name with golden letters in my great guest book. Only those on the guest list will be invited to the party. Those who don't answer the invitation , will be left outside. Be prepared because when all is ready you will be part of my great party. I Love you! Jesus
[Goanet]crc elections
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## the general election of clube Recreative cultural de chinchinim willbe held on 26th Dec 2004 at the club house . last date ti file nomination is 18th Dec, 5.00 p.m.. forms are available at club house informs a press note issued by the secretary of the clube
Re: [Goanet]Some links... tourism and Goa
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Dear Frederick, While you may call the reports from the foreign tourists harrasment.it is a telling record of the deep and endemic corruption that has been in the Goa Police Department for a long time. !! InIndia corruption and bribe giving is an accepted way of lifei guess our goans have gone along after liberation with this way of life..including the guardians of the law.!!..Can we say the ministers in previous state governments wereclean considering how much wealth some of them amassed during their terms of office ? - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:57 AM Subject: [Goanet]Some links... tourism and Goa ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Indiamike.com at http://www.indiamike.com/india/showthread.php?t=6329 has a debate going on Police harassment in Goa. This is from a foreign tourist perspective. Interesting, and needs to be looked at closely. See http://www.indiamike.com/india/showthread.php?t=6329 Quote: Funnily enough we were pulled over by an arrogent police officer on the strech of road between Arambol and Morjim whilst riding a rented scooter with no documents etc. Police man threatened jail etc for our misdemenour but eventually settled on 100rps. The following day same spot he pulled us over again and started going through his routine until he realised that ha had already fined us the day before, he then very politely waved us on and allowed us to go. Whenever I am traveling north of Anjuna/Vagator I make sure that I do not carry more than a fifty or hundred rupee note in my side pocket to give to the bent coppers otherwise I am sure that if you pulled out a wallet stuffed with notes you would be relieved of it all! ENDQUOTE QUOTE: They can bust you for no specific reason. I was asked for my passport last year outside Titos. I don't carry it on my person and I was taken in to the Calangute cop shop. The sub inspector on duty was surprised that I spoke Hindi and simply opened his desk drawer and said chalo boss. Isme thoda vajan dalo. I gave him all the cash I had which was a few hundred rupees and he was happy. ENDQUOTE QUOTE: My husband and I are ex-police in the UK and have made contact with the police in Goa and I know that our young police-man friend payed 60,000rps (?750) to obtain a job with the Goa Police after he had done his training. He tells us that he only earns a minimum Goan wage but he has the best Kinetic scooter on the market, built 2 tourist flats plus one for his parents and told us recently he had bought a Yamaha motor-bike. ENDQUOTE QUOTE: Drug is a menace people face and so is paedophilia. Tourists do come to Goa for these too. Goa is in that arc connecting Philippines, Bangkok SL. It's no secret. This puts everyone in the suspicion net, like the policemen say 'we are paid to be suspicious' If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Leave the poor corrupted cops alone. If you are on the right side and face trouble from them go to a very senior officer and make a complaint. I'm sure they would take action. Though there are many rotten eggs, it's wrong to say that all are a nexus with malicious aims. No. It's not. You can add your bit there too. FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
[Goanet]DKA - Musical show - a great success -in Margao
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## A Goan without love for music song and dance is a just next to impossible. Atleast not those from the Velhas Conquistas (Old Conquests) Talukas of Tiswadi (Ilhas) Salcete Mormugao and Bardez (under Portuguese rule from 1510 to 1961 i.e 451 years ) and natives. But politicians mainly those in the Novas Conquistas ( New Conquistas ) under Portuguese rule from (1763 -1961 i.e. 198 years prefer to propagate their regions music song and dance as genuine while that of the Velhas Conquistas as alien. This is a futile excercise. Whatever be the feud the ground reality is that a Goan world over is recognised by the cultural trends in BOTH the regions and the Carnaval Shigmotsav festivals witnessed come February/March is the epitome to such belief. Language however suffers -- there is no denying that Konkani is the language of the Goans and 95% speak that language; but the scripts resulted in some heads broken at the height of the language agitation. Roman script is the only script familiar to most of the Goans while the nagri script is the monopoly of the Hindu Brahmans. Hence politically the language suffers because the Hindu Brahmans a miniscule of the total population of Goa imposed roughshod post language agitation their nagri script by manipulating political and academic persons besides the diocesan run schools with their sanskritised version of nagri Konkani. Konkani with Roman script died that day when Konkani was recognised as the sole mother tongue of the state 4th February 1987 so also the few Roman lipi (script) newspapers . But over ten years later the present Chief Minister of Goa Mr Manohar Gopalkrishna Prabhu Parrikar has sought to do justice to the cause of Roman script Konkani and the Dalgado Konkani Academy is the culmination of such efforts. The Society has an elected body (albeit a steering committee?) an account opened in a nationalised Bank at Panaji to recieve the much needed funds from the wellwishers worldwide and plans to register DKA under the Registration of Societies act rules is underway. In revitalising, the enthusiasm for Roman lipi Konkani easily read, written, spoken besides being understood by the masses today the Dalagado Konkani Academi event since 7.25 p.m. on Holy Spirit Grounds the first Ek Konknni Songitachi Sanz a Konkani Musical evening began in South Goa district and the bastion of Amchi bhas Margao, In a tete a tete with the President of DKA ex Speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly Mr Tomazinho Cardozo an educationist tiatrist Sarpanch. Mr Cardozo emphasised the importance of Msgr Dalgado who infact preceded Shenoi Goembab late Mr Varde Vaman Valulikar ( now feted by the nagri Konkani school of thought as the Father of Konkani Movement) Msgr Dalgado had mooted the idea of Konkani in any script. This is what we need today --- Konkani script could be any. Therefore the DKA intends to pursue this to its logical conclusion. He added our writers who infact were the mainstay of Konkani language do not find recognition for their writings by the Sahitya Academi the highest body recognising literary talents. With this in view the DKA intends to advance the cause of Roman lipi. Next year from 8th May, 2005 to 8th May 2006 the DKA plaqns to celebrate the 150 years of Msgr Dalgado . This function is solely to revive the Konkani in Roman lipi it is staged in Margao because Margao is known as the citadel of Konkani, he said. When quizzed on the criteria of awardees he said for the time being they have selected 20 persons above the age of 70 years the younger generation can wait. When asked how come there has not been much participation from the nagri lipi fans --- he cited the reason given by Mr Pundalik Naik the then President of the Konkani Porjecho Avaz who could not come due to the function of poets etc at the Kala Academy. From the large gathering it was clear that it was essentially a tiatro crow with a few residents from the Largo de Igreja at Margao but the front seats were occupied not necessarily by some local invitees and a few recepients of the awards but the public mainly women and children. There was an excellent musical treat by Ms Sharon Mazarello (whose vital statistics pressed into tight clothings caused eye brows raised )and her 5 member group Goan Touch which won the appreciation of the public. The Peter Roshan duet amcho desh amka zai was an emotive song on love for our India the Kargil war and Pakistans overtures, which won loud applause for its nationalist tunes. Mr Anthony San own composition on Goencho Saib was due to the miraculous save from herpes which had afflicted him at the age of 8 years
Re: [Goanet]Re: Sea Harrier crash lands at the Naval air station at DABOLIM AIRPORT
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: Fred's posting of Sea Harrier crashes in and around Goa including one missing in flight seems pretty high. Are these pilots sober when they take off? One should think they ought to have 0.00% blood-alcohol reading prior to taking control of the plane. Just my gut-feelings. Gabriel, You're doing violence to the debate by suggesting such an easy way out as the explanation. It would appear that there's something drastically wrong with the Sea Harriers, or their operation in India, which isn't being admitted to by the authorities. In the meantimes, there is a loss of life and a huge waste of tax-payer's money. Local press reports here indicate that each fighter jet costs US$9 million, though Jane's or some other source would be able to give an accurate figure. [Earlier there were some official suggestions that the Sea Harriers' vertical take-off facilities were not being used in India, because this put stress on the aircrafts in a hot and humid climate like ours. One doesn't see such a number of aircrafts of a particular kind routinely crashing, except in the case of the Sea Harriers. It could be much more serious than your light-hearted content could make it seem.] FN
Re: [Goanet]IFFI Post Mortem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Philip Thomas wrote: Today's Times of India (Mumbai) carries a letter (via email) from a reader named Deepak Sadarangani which reads in part as follows: There is a crying need for better coordination between the Goa government, the Directorate of Film Festivals and other concerned central government bodies. ... [W]hile the lovely Goan music and culture was an added bonus, the festivities seemed to overshadow the raison d'etre of the film fest. I dont know how, but a better balance needs to be struck. After all, do you want a tourist mela or a serious festival that show cases the best of cinema? A question -- though belated -- needs to be asked about the ability of the Times of India to talk about IFFI, considering that 360 Degrees, the firm which got a major contract for the IFFI itself, is part of the group which publishes The Times of India. Wouldn't this amount to a conflict of interest? FN
Re: [Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## We're OK, but it is our GOAN FOOD that is the GREATEST in the world. You can have your French and Chinese and Italian and Thai and even Punjabi, but I, who can eat anything that is not nailed down, will take Goan food over all of those any day of the week! --- afra dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## My experience of life tells me that there is some difference between Goans and others. We Goans are truly great. R.Cabral My experience tells me that there is very little difference between Goans and others. We seem to be no greater or worse than any other community. On average, we are well average. Regards, George My experience tells me that its the same difference, average or not. But there is nothing stopping Goans from thinking they are great AND wanting to be great. Try and try, one way or another. Its GREAT. J. Dias.
RE: [Goanet] All Colin Powell's fault!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq, No, you can't. Are you as stupid and insensitive as this postings would indicate? Tariq is a very smart and sensitive man. He does not deserve to be called stupid and insensitive in a public forum. His postings are also no more stupid and insensitive than those of the above poster. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]Iraq jobs
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## For heaven's sake, don't you read the papers or watch TV? --- jude ferrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Dear Goans, Could anybody enlighten me to how to get a secretarial/ administrative job in Iraq / or the contact details of agents who recruit for Iraq in UAE/ Kuwait. I am presently working in the UAE. Rgds Jude __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE: ORDER ON 24th DEC
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## The Children's Court headed by South Goa District Judge A.D.Salkar today after hearing arguments on the maintainability of the criminal complaint filed by Mr. Anthony Frois uncle of the minor girl allegedly molested by Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues adjourned the matter to 24th December for orders. Dec 24th will coincidentally be a year when before the X'mas midnight mass Fr. Newton Rodrigues allegedly took the 13-year-old Ribandar girl to a room in the church on the pretext of taking confession and molested her. The complaint, which is the first of its kind before the recently constituted Children's court, has been filed by Mr. Frois against the Parish Priest in view of the police dragging its feet in filing the charge sheet against the accused priest. Advancing arguments on behalf of Mr. Frois, the Court was urged to summon the accused priest and that using powers under section 31 of the Children Act the Investigating Officer of the case Police Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D'Souza be summoned with the investigation papers. The Court was told that the investigation officer of the case Crime Branch Police Inspector Ezilda D' Souza being a catholic was shying from chargesheeting the priest inspite of her statement before the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court on 16th September that the investigation of the alleged Ribandar Church molestation case was in its last stage and that the charge sheet against Fr. Newton Rodrigues was being filed shortly. The Court was further told that the offence allegedly committed by the priest was very serious and that nobody should be above the law. Fr. Newton Rodrigues is the first Roman Catholic Priest in Goa against whom the police have registered an F.I.R for an offence of molestation. The Ribandar Church molestation case was also one of the bone of contentions in the recent row between Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and former DGP Mr. Amod Kanth with the DGP refusing to relent to political pressures not to charge sheet the Parish priest. The DGP had reportedly taken a very firm stand that nobody is above the law. A contempt of Court petition filed against Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza for not complying with her statement is already pending before the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court.
[Goanet]Iraq jobs
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Dear Goans, Could anybody enlighten me to how to get a secretarial/ administrative job in Iraq / or the contact details of agents who recruit for Iraq in UAE/ Kuwait. I am presently working in the UAE. Rgds Jude
Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## These are speculative analyses after the fact, which may satisfy you, but do not satisfy me or the Iraqis I have spoken with. You have still not explained why the UN (not the US) passed 17 resolutions from 1991 to 2003 asking Saddam to provide a full accounting for his chemical and biological WMDs, none of which he was able to comply with as he had agreed to do in the ceasefire agreement of 1991. In 12 years he was unable to explain what these analyses are trying to do for him. Do they know more about the subject than he did? Complying with any one of these resolutions would have enabled Saddam and his sons to continue to brutalize his own people, and loot money from his own citizens. This is an aspect of Iraq that you never address. Saddam Hussein was a selfish, brutal and sadistic dictator, who belonged to a small minority community but gained ultimate power by ruthlessly killing his political opponents. He executed anyone who opposed him and threw their bodies into mass graves, raped their wives and daughters, harbored terrorists like Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, Abu Musab al Zarkawi and Ansar al Islam, paid bounties to the families of suicide bombers in Israel, looted the oil-for-food program and built palaces while depriving his own people of food and medicines. He had plans to re-constitute his WMD programs as the Duelfer Report indicated, which he could have then provided to Al Qaeda, with whom he had close links as the 9/11 Commission discovered. Saddam deserved to have been removed without regard to any UN resolutions or other legalities. In spite of all the evidence of Saddam's brutality and intentions, it is incredible that there are still those who use every sophistry they can muster in an attempt to dilute the sadistic brutality of this monstrous tyrant and continue to argue that he should have been left in power. Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I still haven't heard an explanation about what happened to the Iraqi WMDs that were never accounted for. Ooops! I forgot! The Globe Mail told you that they never had any! Sorry. Can't expect an answer from you on that question. I fail to understand why you continue to peddle lies on this forum. http://middleeastreference.org.uk/iraqweapons.html -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]VISITORS' VIEWS: Crowded season... dirty, smoggy, chaotic, horrible Calangute... taxi mafia... Palolem, a beach bummers' slum...
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## http://www.indiamike.com/india/showthread.php?t=5837 North Goa Just to let anyone know who is intending to visit this season to expect it to be full to overflowing. As well as becoming much busier each season, this winter is the exposition of 'St Francis Xaviers' relics, an event expected to attract more than 3 million visitors. St Francis is the patron saint of Goa, and his remains are displayed to the public every 10 years. He can be seen[!!] between Nov21st and Jan 2nd. Added to this is the International Film Festival which is 29 Nov - 9 Dec. So, be prepared for extortionate prices this season. I stayed on Mandrem Beach, about a 30 minute walk along the beach south of Arambol. So quiet, peaceful, as the sun was setting I'd often only see five or six people on the whole beach on my long walks. If you take the ferry from Siolim you can get a bus to Mandrem on the other side and enjoy the beauty without all the people. Calangute is a trap. Prices were not bad but too many people and too much traffic. We stayed at Alexes guest house colse to the beack for 300 rs for a double, real nice room and nice beds. Clean. Calangute would be my very last choice for quiet seclusion. Do yourself a favour and stay well clear of Calangute. It's dirty, smoggy, chaotic, horrible. I went along with wife to Candolim which was much more peaceful and cleaner than Calangute. October is 'early season'; the weather should be pretty good and everything will be green shortly after the monsoon, but most of the 'beach shacks' will not have opened for the season and I suspect it is a bit early for the 'big' parties. The most activity will likely be in the Calangute-Baga-Anjuna part of North Goa which has the most mid-range lodging, bars, and tourist facilities so is more of a year-round destination than the quieter places further north or south. Panaji Friends have stayed at the Panjim Inn in the old part of the city and think highly of it, but I haven't stayed there myself. According to the LP by far the most charming place to stay in mid-range. It's a beautiful 300-year old mansion with a large 1st-floor veranda and leafy garden. All rooms have four-poster beds and colonial furniture. High-season rates are Rp720-990. Ask to see a few rooms as they are all different. Across the road, Panjim Posada is under the same management and is also a comfortable, well-furnished place. The rooms here, from Rp 675-900 are perhaps even more pleasant than in the main hotel. Try a meal in Panaji - probably the best place for some good Goan food. South for the beaches and do try a 'feni' bar... South Goa For my money, I would base myself in somewhere like Majorda (plenty of accomodation in the village, it's north of Colva) and then bicycle to semi-secluded strips of beach. The beach here is long enough that you can find your own private bit most times if you have transport. You'll need to travel a bit if you don't want topay the often outrageous prices in the beach shacks for food. Colva is for the quiet person who wants to avoid the crowds. We rented bicycles for 65 rs for the day and headed to the end of the beach, 14 km or something close to that, and lots of it unpopulated. Nice sand, warm. Depending on what you are looking for, Colva is a nicer beach, less people, less touristy, and more laid back - by far - than Calangute. We stayed at a place called Vailannkanna Guest house for 275 rs for a double. The room was adequate, staff great, but the beds were too hard. Sukhsagar Beach Resort? Tel 0832-2788 887, 2788 888 When you reach Margao, the regular exit from the station (Platform 1) will lead you to an area where taxis wait. There is even a prepaid booth there. Don't use it, or the taxis on that side! The prices are all artificially elevated through a taxi mafia. You will pay a minimum of Rs50 just to go half a kilometre, and they won't bargain to a more realistic price. Instead, cross over the lines (pedestrian footbridge) to Station Road. There you will find motorbike taxis and autorickshaws whose drivers are more open to bargaining (if it's very late, you might have to walk past the new residential/shopping unit to find a vehicle, but no more than ten minutes). Buses out to the beaches stop running after around nine in the evening, so taxis are the only way. I think it should be about Rs15 - 20 to town, (from the 'local' exit) if i could get them down to Rs30, i was more than happy with that, the prices they wanted for beach resorts were laughable. I enjoyed Benaulim a lot. The positive thing for me was that it's quite central so you can hop on a bus for 1 and a half hours
[Goanet]Some links... tourism and Goa
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Indiamike.com at http://www.indiamike.com/india/showthread.php?t=6329 has a debate going on Police harassment in Goa. This is from a foreign tourist perspective. Interesting, and needs to be looked at closely. See http://www.indiamike.com/india/showthread.php?t=6329 Quote: Funnily enough we were pulled over by an arrogent police officer on the strech of road between Arambol and Morjim whilst riding a rented scooter with no documents etc. Police man threatened jail etc for our misdemenour but eventually settled on 100rps. The following day same spot he pulled us over again and started going through his routine until he realised that ha had already fined us the day before, he then very politely waved us on and allowed us to go. Whenever I am traveling north of Anjuna/Vagator I make sure that I do not carry more than a fifty or hundred rupee note in my side pocket to give to the bent coppers otherwise I am sure that if you pulled out a wallet stuffed with notes you would be relieved of it all! ENDQUOTE QUOTE: They can bust you for no specific reason. I was asked for my passport last year outside Titos. I don't carry it on my person and I was taken in to the Calangute cop shop. The sub inspector on duty was surprised that I spoke Hindi and simply opened his desk drawer and said chalo boss. Isme thoda vajan dalo. I gave him all the cash I had which was a few hundred rupees and he was happy. ENDQUOTE QUOTE: My husband and I are ex-police in the UK and have made contact with the police in Goa and I know that our young police-man friend payed 60,000rps (?750) to obtain a job with the Goa Police after he had done his training. He tells us that he only earns a minimum Goan wage but he has the best Kinetic scooter on the market, built 2 tourist flats plus one for his parents and told us recently he had bought a Yamaha motor-bike. ENDQUOTE QUOTE: Drug is a menace people face and so is paedophilia. Tourists do come to Goa for these too. Goa is in that arc connecting Philippines, Bangkok SL. It's no secret. This puts everyone in the suspicion net, like the policemen say 'we are paid to be suspicious' If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Leave the poor corrupted cops alone. If you are on the right side and face trouble from them go to a very senior officer and make a complaint. I'm sure they would take action. Though there are many rotten eggs, it's wrong to say that all are a nexus with malicious aims. No. It's not. You can add your bit there too. FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
[Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chickens coming home to roost! --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I still haven't heard an explanation about what happened to the Iraqi WMDs that were never accounted for. Ooops! I forgot! The Globe Mail told you that they never had any! Sorry. Can't expect an answer from you on that question. I fail to understand why you continue to peddle lies on this forum. http://middleeastreference.org.uk/iraqweapons.html Tariq, There are some folks who completely ignore facts, preferring ideology and propaganda. They will refuse to believe when presented with irrefutable proof. Rather, they will respond with patriotic-sounding statements that are bereft of independent, critical thinking. To do any different would mean admitting they are wrong, and they are not capable of doing this. Witness how there are still people who believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 in cahoots with Osama bin Laden - and there are still massive stockpiles of WMD waiting to be found. Or that there was no Abu Ghraib prison abuse. Iraq is calm and free. Afghanistan is a benign democratic ocean. People are waiting in line to enlist and go to Iraq. The list goes on. It is impossible to convince these people. On a related note: I've started wondering how Goenkars can become hard right-wing conservatives lacking the ability to consider the possibility they could be wrong
[Goanet]Wikipedia on Goa... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, has this entry on Goa, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa It covers topics such as the origin of the name, history, geography and economy of Goa, government and law, demographics, people and culture, flora and fauna, transportation (external and internal), tourism and sport. This is your chance to contribute to Wikipedia. Anyone is entitled to go and edit any entry there. Wikipedia's team expects posts to be factual and having a NPOV (neutral point of view). You'll be amazed to see how many entries have been put up at this volunteer-crafted encyclopedia! FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
[Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## My experience of life tells me that there is some difference between Goans and others. We Goans are truly great. R.Cabral My experience tells me that there is very little difference between Goans and others. We seem to be no greater or worse than any other community. On average, we are well average. Regards, George My experience tells me that its the same difference, average or not. But there is nothing stopping Goans from thinking they are great AND wanting to be great. Try and try, one way or another. Its GREAT. J. Dias.
[Goanet]NEWS: Goa's ex-CM indicted in financial scam
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/16goa.htm Goa's ex-CM indicted in financial scam Sandesh Prabhudesai in Panaji | December 16, 2004 21:55 IST A judicial commission has indicted Goa's former chief minister Luizinho Faleiro in a financial racket involving Rs 100 crore. Faleiro, who is the state Congress president, has dismissed the findings of the commission, headed by Justice M L Pendse, terming it as match-fixing. The Bharatiya Janata Party government, headed by Manohar Parrikar, had instituted the inquiry in January this year to probe the alleged irregularities in the state-run Economic Development Corporation, set up to grant loans to industries. Both Parrikar and Faleiro had accused each for the financial irregularities in the EDC while they were the finance minister and industries minister, respectively, between 1995 and 2003. The industries department was initially handling the state-run financial institution. Later on, it was taken over by the finance department. The Pendse commission pointed out several irregularities in the disbursal and recovery of loans by the EDC during Faleiro's tenure as minister. The report states: There is positive evidence to indicate that these illegalities and irregularities were committed at the behest of minister Faleiro and with the connivance of Modassir, the managing director of the EDC. The commission has suggested that the EDC be handled by financial experts rather than by politicians. It also calls for necessary steps to revamp the EDC's functioning. After accepting the commission report, the Cabinet has now handed it over to the home department for further action.
RE: [Goanet]All Colin Powell's fault!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Tariq, No, you can't. Are you as stupid and insensitive as this postings would indicate? --- Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9. I hate to disappoint you, Ronald, but I volunteered to go to Iraq, and they turned me down on the grounds that I'm an old fart with heart disease and on the verge of surviving cancer. So, I have no choice but to reiterate the facts as I know them until everyone at least gets their facts straight. Then whatever You could always go to Iraq on your own as a free lancer. Just catch a flight to Jordan and you should be on your way. -Tariq __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Indians - Most Prosperous Asians in America
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ~From the Los Angeles Times, December 16, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/48dar Stark Contrasts Found Among Asian Americans The group?s average family income tops the overall U.S. figure. But while Indians prosper, Cambodians, Laotians and Hmong strug gle. By Teresa Watanabe and Nancy Wride Times Staff Writers, December 16, 2004 Indian Americans have surged forward as the most successful Asian minority in the United States, reporting top levels of income, education, professional job status and English?language ability, even though three?fourths were foreign?born, according to U.S. census data released Wednesday. The striking success of Asian Americans who trace their heritage to India contrasted with data showing struggles among Cambodian, Laotian and Hmong immigrants. Those three groups reported contin ued significant poverty rates, low job skills and limited En glish?language ability since their flight from war and political turmoil. The report, We the People: Asians in the United States, was based on 2000 census data and underscored the enormous socioeco nomic diversity among the nation?s 10 million Asian Americans, more than one third of whom live in California, the state with their largest population. Asian Americans increased from 6.9 million, or 2.8% of the U.S. population, in 1990 to 10.2 million, or 3.6%, in 2000. Including mixed?race Asian Americans, counted by the census for the first time in 2000, the population was 11.9 million, or 4.2%. It is a community of contrasts, said Kimiko Kelly, research an alyst with the Asian Pacific American Legal Center in Los Ange les. Asian Americans are seen as a model minority who are not suffering from barriers to education or progress. But if you look closely, you see a community that covers the whole spectrum, from wealthy to very poor. She said the growing diversity of the community, which was mainly Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos until 1965 immigration reforms were instituted, has multiplied the challenges facing service or ganizations such as hers. Translators for health clinics and courts are among the pressing needs, she said. The contrasts are detailed in the report, which provides data on such items as age, marital status, citizenship, language, educa tion, earnings, poverty rates, occupation and home ownership among 11 Asian American groups. Median family income, for instance, ranged from $70,849 for Japanese and $70,708 for Asian Indians to about half that for Cambodians and Hmong. Indian men showed the highest full?time earnings, $51,900, about double the figure for Hmong men. About 64% of Asian Indians held a bachelor?s degree or more, the highest rate, compared with 7.7% for Laotians and 7.5% for Hmong, the lowest. More than three?fourths of Indians and Filipinos spoke fluent English, twice the rate for Vietnamese. Max Niedzwiecki, executive director of the Southeast Asia Re source Action Center in Washington, D.C., said the differences stemmed in part from different histories. Many Southeast Asian Americans came here as refugees with less formal education and with memories of traumatic experiences stemming from the Vietnam War and the murderous Khmer Rouge reign in Cambodia, he said. In contrast, many Asians Indians emigrated voluntarily from a relatively peaceful homeland and were equipped with strong En glish skills to pursue higher academic degrees or business oppor tunities. Between 1990 and 2000, they doubled their population to 1.6 million and now rank as the third?largest Asian American group after Chinese and Filipinos. Take, for instance, Venkatesh Koka, a 36?year?old real estate in vestor in Artesia. The son of a civil engineer, Koka left a com fortable life with servants in southern India to earn a master?s degree in business administration at Ohio University. As in other upper?middle?class families, he had attended schools with in struction in English since his childhood, rendering him fluent even though he has always spoken Telugu, an Indian language, at home. He says he came to the United States in 1986 after a friend studying here lured him with wide?eyed stories of freeways, an easy life and good money. Koka worked at a bank and initially lost $1.5 million in real es tate deals, filing for bankruptcy in the mid?1990s. Since then, he said, he has bounced back as manager of his family investments and has increased their value from $3 million to $15 million. This year, his family created the Little India Village shopping plaza on Pioneer Boulevard in Artesia.
Re: [Goanet]Goa and migrants
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides the US is a country of migrants but migration is somewhat controlled, this is not the case of Goa. Why do casmiris need to sell their stuff when some fake journo from Saligao could do the same? One must not forget that it is via Goa that bharat has prospered I am referring to the foreign exchange. Goa is a state of India, just as Texas is a state of U.S.A. Migration to Texas from other states is not controlled. Kashmiris from Missouri sell their fake goods from Macau in Texas. Texas contributes a lot to the prosperity of U.S.A. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Goenkars don't emigrate to N. America please........
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Those already there, try making violent love to burn the Calories. http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2004/12/16/wfat16.xml Moving to US can damage waistline By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles (Filed: 16/12/2004) There is a flip side to the American dream, medical researchers have discovered. Moving to the United States can make you fat. A study of immigrants' health shows that people born abroad are rarely obese until they have lived in America for 10 years or more, and succumbed to its car-driving, burger-guzzling culture. Only eight per cent of immigrants who had lived in the country for less than a year were obese, but that jumped to 19 per cent after 15 years. The figure compared with 22 per cent of American-born residents surveyed. The longer you live here, the more likely you are to be obese, USA Today was told by Dr Mita Sanghavi Goel, of Northwest University, Illinois, who led the study. The research, published in yesterday's Journal of the American Medical Association, found a link between obesity and US residency in white, Hispanic and Asian immigrant groups. It was not seen in foreign-born blacks but numbers in the study were too small to draw conclusions. More than 32,000 adults were surveyed. Government statistics show that roughly two thirds of Americans are overweight or obese. More than 127 million adults are classified as overweight and 70 million obese. Changes in immigrants' diet and way of life are behind the weight gain, the research suggests, as they consume more fat and sugar in processed foods, less fruit and vegetables and adopt a more sedentary existence.
[Goanet]Goa Govt. Planning Board Sub-Com on Environment
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## - Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- -- Goa Govt. Planning Board Sub-Committee on Environment -- Official Gazette - Government of Goa Notification No. DPSE/III/PB-M/80-XII/2003/5229 Read: 1) Notification No. DPSE/III/PB-M/80-XII/2002 Dated October 22, 2002 2) Corrigendum No. DPSE/III/PB-M/80-XII/2002 Dated November 7, 2003 3) Addendum No. DPSE/III/PB-M/80-XII/2002 Dated November 26, 2003 On recommendation of the Planning Board, Government of Goa is pleased to appoint the following sub-committees of the Planning Board with immediate effect. (b) Sub-Committee on Environment 1. Shri Alban Couto, H. No. 1037, Sonetem, Carona, Aldona, Goa 2. Gen. (Retd.) Sunith F. Rodrigues, 81 - Defence Colony, Porvorim, Bardez, Goa 3. Prof L.U. Joshi, 3-C Shantivan Society, Ground Floor, Santa Janabai Road, Vile Parle (East), Mumbai 400 057 4. Shri Manguesh Prabhu Gaonkar, Architect, Patrakar Colony, Alto Betim, Bardez, Goa 5. Dr. R. Mashelkar, Director General, CSIR, (Council of Scientific Industrial Research), Anusandhan Bhavan, 2 Rafi Marg, New Delhi - 110 001 6. Shri Ashish Karmali, Kakoda 645, Curchorem, Goa 7. Shri Rajkumar Zhanzi, Paramount Building., (Perfect Const.), Next to Balu Pharmacy, Navelim, Salcete, Goa 8. Shri M.G. Naik, Member Secretary, Dy. Director, DPSE, Panaji, Goa The following shall be the terms of reference of the above three Sub-Committees: The Sub-Committee on Education, Employment and Human Resouce Development and the Sub-Committee on Environment will look into the macro level issues related to plan formulation and monitor the achievement of the underlying objective(s) of the schemes and analyze their effectiveness, usefulness and benefits to the society. The Sub-Committees will float new ideas and concepts to enhance the efficiency of the existing schemes/ programmes and also suggest new programmes, which may be taken up. The Sub-Committees may co-opt any other member of the Planing Board for their functioning, if considered necessary. The Sub-Committees will regulate their own procedures and the Member Secretary of the respective sub-committee shall make arrangements to hold the meeting and shall provide secretarial services and secondary data as may be required and shall co-ordinate with the concerned Departments as per the requirements of the committees. The Sub-Committees may call for the relevant information from any Government Department, undertake visits to departments/development projects, hold discussions and seek clarifications from the Secretaries/Heads of Departments in regard to the matters concerning the work entrusted to the Sub-Committees. The Sub-Committees shall submit their recommendations to the Chairman, Planning Board with 6 months of starting their deliberations. The observations and suggestions of the Sub-Committees will be discussed in the Planning Board meetings. The outstation non-official members will be permitted to draw airfare (both ways) for attending the Sub-Committee meetings. While in Goa, the outstation members (whose normal place of residence is outside Goa) will be treated as State Guests. Each non-offic ial member will be paid a sitting fee of Rs. 200/- per day for attending the Sub-Committee meeting. The member Secretary of the concerned Sub-Committee will be responsible for timely defray of all expenses inculding T.A. etc. of the members of the Sub-Committees. All expenses in relation to holding meetings/deliberations of the Sub-Committees and operations incidental thereto will be met by the Directorate of Planning, Statistics and Evaluation. By order and in the name of the Governor of Goa. S.K. Tewari, Director Member Secretary (Planning Board). Panaji, 22nd September 2004 -- Source: Official Gazette Series II No. 28 dated 7/10/04 page 662/663 --- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org
[Goanet]IFFI Post Mortem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Today's Times of India (Mumbai) carries a letter (via email) from a reader named Deepak Sadarangani which reads in part as follows: There is a crying need for better coordination between the Goa government, the Directorate of Film Festivals and other concerned central government bodies. ... [W]hile the lovely Goan music and culture was an added bonus, the festivities seemed to overshadow the raison d'etre of the film fest. I dont know how, but a better balance needs to be struck. After all, do you want a tourist mela or a serious festival that show cases the best of cinema? In my opinion, it was not just the festivities which threw a smoke-screen over IFFI 2004 in Goa but more importantly the sheer over-kill on the infrastructre/beautification front. Let's hope next year we will see a more classy event.
[Goanet]RE: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #1741 - 19 msgs
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## My experience of life of staying with migrants from school teachers, neighbour and students in Goa, and staying with local people and migrants outside Goa tells me that no outsider can love a place more than a native does. (May be there are few exceptional persons) Message: 2 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Goa and migrants Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience of life tells me that there is some difference between Goans and others. We Goans are truly great. R.Cabral My experience tells me that there is very little difference between Goans and others. We seem to be no greater or worse than any other community. On average, we are well average. Regards, George Disclaimer The message contained in this e-mail is meant for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution of or taking any action in reliance on the contents of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited.
[Goanet]GNU/Linux network ... in Vasco?
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## A friend in Vasco, Kiran Mesta, is willing to help launch a free/libre and open source software (FLOSS) network in Vasco, possibly in a cybercafe. Would anyone be interested in joining and, more importantly, supporting the launch of such a network? FLOSS offers you new perspectives in software and using computers. More importantly, it's extremely helpful for young people who want to gain new skills in software. There's a great sharing environment which allows everyone to learn fast and learn a lot. Knowledge is freely shared. Contacts for Kiran: amannaik @ rediffmail.com 9822181579 Kiran Mesta Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
Re: [Goanet]Two minutes for TAJ!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## I visited a similar site (not sure it's the same one) recently and realised that one needs to make a phone call and pay for it, in order to get the 'priviledge' of voting! If that's true, then this could qualify as a good money-making scheme. Much better than those Nigerian scams (which I actually responded to, faking an interest, and then had African accents actually calling me at 3 am). What is the experience of others? FN From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/17 Fri AM 01:19:17 GMT+05:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Two minutes for TAJ! Two minutes for TAJ! People worldwide are casting there votes to elect the New Seven Wonders of the world. Initially, there will be short-listing for 21 monuments till February and then the voting will continue and will be announcing the New Seven Wonders of the World on January 1, 2006. Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
[Goanet]Re:Re: Defence Committee visiting Dabolim in Jan 2005
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## I tried to find the original posting on this subject but couldnt find one in Nov or Dec. Anyway, it is good news that a serious look at the Dabolim issue is being taken by the Defence Ministry. Let's hope it is not just an excuse for a holiday jaunt to Goa! A few questions about the Committee that arise are: 1) What is its locus standi? 2) What are its TOR? 3)Who are the members and which of them are visiting Goa? 4) Who do they plan to meet in Goa? There was a recent report in the press titled Govt plans to set up aeronautics panel in the NEXT FEW WEEKS to promote the synergy between defence and civil aviation establishments while maintaining their separate identities. This commission will be reportedly headed at the ministerial level and will have secretaries from the civil aviation and defence ministries, heads of aeronautics, representatives of the aviation industry, DGCA and licensing authority and representatives of various bodies from the Indian aviation (both civilian and defence) sector. The main aim from the report seems to be to tap the lucrative $51 billion INDIAN travel market expected to emerge by 2011. Manufacturing and technology acquisition activities have been highlighted as driving the move but expansion of tourism at low air travel cost which Goa would be interested in should also logically be very much part of the agenda. Let us hope that Goanetters will be closely upated about developments re the Committee's visit by those in the know since there has been a keen debate on the Dabolim issue in this forum over the past few months. Regrettably there has been no update about Churchill Alemao's activities in a Defence Committee though the press carried a brief report about his visit to Delhi in this very connection. Let us hope that Goanetters are not asleep on this matter as strongly suspected by some quarters!:)
[Goanet]Re:Re: Defence Committee visiting Dabolim in Jan 2005
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## This is, of course, great news though one fears that it may just be an excuse for a holiday jaunt to Goa! There are a number of questions about this committee and its visit which immediately come to mind. Let us hope they can be anticipated and Goanetters will be kept closely updated by those in the know. The Dabolim issue has been keenly debated in Goanet since October to my knowledge. So the relevant arguments are all there and only have to be compiled and summarised for the Committee's reference purposes. Any new information and arguments will hopefully be shared at the earliest by the concerned people. Regrettably there has been no update on Goanet about the activities of Churchill Alemao in the Defence Committee of which he is a member and whose recent meeting in Delhi he reportedly attended as per a press report. Let us hope Goanetters ae not asleep at the wheel on this issue.:) In a recent press report, there is talk of the govt's plans to set up an aeronautics panel IN A FEW WEEKS to synergise the working of civil and defence esablishments in aviation matters including sharing of assets while maintaining separate identities. The aim seems to be to tap the emerging $50 billion -by-2011 Indian travel market. Although technology development and manufacturing have been highlighted in the panel's proposed agenda there is no logical reason why low cost air travel to facilitate tourism, VFR , business etc which is of prime importance to Goa at Dabolim (and in due course at Mopa) should be excluded.
[Goanet]for viviana, Phone Masts.
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## From: v. fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]for viviana omment: What with all the focus on IFFI,and the justifcation to declare goa it's permanent venue, Will someone in the Govt. do something about the range problems,of the cell-phones of 'the common man in goa', in this day and age of GPRS WORLD ACCESS. Any feed back from journos' on their experiences in this regard? v.f. RESPONSE: It is to do with having the Mobile phone masts in situ in the correct places. I have seen many reports of Villages/Villagers objecting to these phone masts being put up near them. It is quite alright to put them up anywhere but not in my back yard please!! Cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]18 Dec PEOPLE'S SYMPOSIUM a Goa Mukti Din event
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## - Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- 18 Dec PEOPLE'S SYMPOSIUM a Goa Mukti Din event GOA MUKTI DIN Contact Address: C/o. AITUC, Velho Bldg. 2nd. Floor, Panjim Municipal Garden, Panjim, Goa 403001. Phones: 436 / 2420424 On 19th. December last year, various Non-Governmental Organisations, Social Action Groups, Community Based Organisations, Trade Unions, Civic Action Groups and People's Movements, celebrated a Lok Utsav on Goa Mukti Din. It was held in an inclusive and popular style through song, dance, skits, speeches and a visual display of their respective activities. Many said it was a very meaningful way of commemorating this historic day, where people could express their views on what liberation meant for them. They also wanted that such an event be held every year. Continuing this practice, though in a different manner and on a day previous, it has been decided to observe Goa Mukti Din with a PEOPLE'S SYMPOSIUM on 18th.December 2004, from 3.00 p.m. to 6.00 p.m. at the T.B. Cunha Hall, Azad Maidan, Panjim. Subject of the Symposium: The Relevance of Non-Governmental Organisations in Goa Today. Presidium: Mr. Flavian Dias, Mr. Kalanand Mani and Adv. Norma Alvares. Secretary to the Presidium: Adv. Subash Naik After a brief introduction by a member of the Presidium, the participants will be free to critically voice their views on the subject of the Symposium, substantiating them with concrete evidence, wherever possible. Members of the Presidium will respond accordingly. The Secretary will later sum up the day's proceedings. We wish to invite you to continue making Goa Mukti Din, a significant and memorable day once more; and look forward to your active participation in this event. Conceptualised by: Mr. Kalanand Mani, Com. Christopher Fonseca, Mr. Beethoven Fonseca, Mr. Soter D'Souza Mr. Reggie Gomes. -- Source: Goa Mukti Din event press release -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
