[Goanet]Re: Critical of IFFI
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Philip, Thank you for correcting me. Now that you have shown that you are smarter than me, why don't you spearhead the analysis. Call it what you want. But let's have an educated presentation. Or are your smarts just in trying to put down another Goan? Regards, GL An educated presentation? On what, for whom and to what end? Btw, your presentations are fine. Just had a few questions about it, that's all .. for Goa's sake! Until next time. :)
Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Halur, The problem with living next door to a giant like the USA...not very unlike how Pakistan has to live with a populous( prolific..as in population growth) with Mother India next door , as one has to shift , as the heavier neighbour moves , to avoid being squished ( or or squashed as they say in proper English.)but as Chairman Mao of Chinese history said all power grows out of the barrel of a good gun ...and you americans now hold the gun on the UN and any one who dares to defy the futuredesigns of your oil-providerfor thefutureTexas president.and like the British Empire who thought that the planet belonged to them..the future will present small problems. - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost! ## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Tim De Mello, The Sunni Baathist Iraqi insurgents have nothing to be grateful for, as their brutal domination of the majority Shia and Kurds has come to a bloody end. But, how about the couple of Canadian snipers on Goanet who take their US security blanket for granted? What's their excuse? From: halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks Has the chicken crossed the road? From: Tim De Mello: Of course not. It is not stupid. It knows that there is an IED planted there. It does not want to deprive the US forces of their gift from the grateful Iraqis.
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Dec 20, 2004!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Tujim utram godd dovor, tuka ghoddiek magir tim khavunk poddot. (Keep your words sweet, you may have to eat them later.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]'TEEN' FAME FOR ALDONA LAD
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Well done Amaro. An amazing feat! Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ 'TEEN' FAME FOR ALDONA LAD: When 15-year-old Amaro Fernandes of Maina Vaddo in Aldona met with an accident in February 2003, a multiple fracture on his right elbow threatened to deprive him of his beloved violin for good. Not only did Amaro's grit to get back to his violin help him overcome the physical and mental trauma, his violin saw him orchestrate an unexpected triumph barely 21 months later, when Amaro was adjudged the Teen of the Year 2004 at an all-India contest in Mumbai. Besides a trophy, Amaro, a soft-spoken SSC student at St Thomas Boy's High School, Aldona, was awarded a cash prize of Rs.10,000 and a gift hamper worth about Rs.7,000 from the various sponsors. (Melvyn Misquita in Herald)
[Goanet]sos
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## This is a personal SOS and perhaps yr netters can help save this issue which has affected not only my ganv bhau but many others too. My friend, Rosario from Mandrem has been a victim of Mundkar act for umpteen years who is presently possessing a 1/2 century old small mud-baked house, admeasuring 81 sq. mts. While requesting the present landlord to purchase from him the plot of 300 sq.mtrs + additional land of 100 odd sq mtrs, Rosario was asked to pay Rs.200/sq mtr for 300 sq. mtrs and balance @ Rs.800/sq. mtr. Since Rosario could not afford the whole consideration, he requested the landlord to allot him at least 300 sq mtrs now and the rest can be bought later once the funds are available, which was refused and was informed that this plot, consisting of 300 + 100 odd sq. mtrs, has to be bought outright and no partial purchase will be permitted. I guess as per the Mundkar Act, the mundkar has a moral right to purchase from the landlord at least 300 sq. mtrs @ the rate provided by the Govt. authorities. Wud appreciate if anybody can help. Thanx Chris Fernandes Mandrem/Mumbai Disclaimer : This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by any one who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that MOSt is unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of/over the contents of the information contained in e-mail transmission and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender and does not bind MOSt unless the sender does so expressly with due authority with MOSt. Before Opening any attachment please check them for viruses and defects.
[Goanet]When Goanet becomes a part of a mob
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Dear fellow netters and specially Frederick Noronha. Regarding your letter of 17th of December. You are the moderator of Goanet, a fellow journalist and a catholic brother of us living in Saligao. That is approximately 15 kilometers from my house in Ribandar. You are always welcome to my home. You are also welcome to join me, my wife and my three minor children which every Sunday join hundreds off parishioners of Ribandar in the services of Fr. Newton Rodrigues. Now we are all preparing for Christmas. Please come to us Mr. Noronha. and share some time with us. You are also hereby invited to come to Ribandar, to meet the victims of the mob of Ribandar. Since August this year the mob has traumatized the village of Ribandar. One of their tools is Goanet, where a so-called activist-style-lawyer has been intimidating people who cannot defend them self. This victims includes the Nuns of of Our Lady of Help Convent, a Parish Priest, a mother and and child. All catholic brothers and sisters of us. Why have the serious media in Goa stopped entertaining this mob? Is it because they all want to cover up a crime, or is it because they have seen enough proof of who are the culprits here? Let me recall that in September the mother of the child personally distributed a letter to the editors of the three English newspapers in Goa. The mother stated that the so-called activist-style-lawyer and the so-called uncle do not represent her. Not only do they not represent her, she claims they did pressurize her to file false allegations on our priest. Mr Frederick Noronha, Kindly take the short journey to Ribandar, meet the lady and get your self a copy of that letter. And kindly stop making Goanet a part of the mob the people of Ribandar are facing. Kindly also pick up the letter which the mother has given the parishioners, a letter to the CM of Goa, with a copy to the DGP of Goa and the investigating police officer, that the Parish Priest of Ribandar has falsely been framed. Knowing that this letter exists: Would is be anything but a shameful attack on all Catholics in Goa, it the legal system in misused to prosecute one of our priests? This respective authority has responded by not charge sheeting the Priest. Lets hope and pray that justice will prevail also in the future. Kindly also accnowledge, that any person in India has the right to approach any Court of Law with any kind of allegations. True or false, right or wrong. Even you Mr. Noronha, can be falsely framed, false witnesses can be put up against you, and the accuser can start distributing pamphlets in the village spoiling your name, and use Internet forums like Goanet to distribute the same false allegations. The difference between you Mr. Norohna, and the victims of Ribandar, is that you are capable of putting up a strong defense. A priest cannot, neither can the nuns, neither can a pore lady who lives alone, having her husband working abroad. You sit safely in your house, Mr. Norona, giving us analysis, even telling us that the attackers of our Church are doing a god job. Kindly come to Ribandar, and take the stories of the victims, before you pas any more comments. Fr. Newton Rodrigues is a human being. He has been with us in Ribandar for five years now. Priests will come and go. Our Father will one day leave Ribandar, and continue his Ministry. But our Church and the village will remain. The pamphlets in the village, and the letters on Goanet, is not hurting the Priest. He is a strong man, and he will stand firm in the stormy winds. Even come to court if he is called. Mr. Norhona, kindly understand that the pamphlets and hurting us, every catholic of Ribandar. Even during Christmas, the name of our Church, and the name of our village are being dragged down in the gutter. Peace be with all of you. And have a God blessed Christmas. Mr. Ivar Fjeld Ribandar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet]Re: Creating Goa-centric petitions...
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## This is apropos Frederick Noronha's of Dec 19 which began as follows: Some of you would have heard of petitionsonline.com. This is a network that provides free online hosting of public petitions for responsible public advocacy. It says of itself: We give you the ancient methods of grassroots democracy, combined with the latest digital networked communications, running live and free 24 hours a day. Can we think of some petitions for Goa? If one could suggest: (i) A petition over the early resolution of the Dabolim airport control issue, making this airport really serve the interests of the state ... It goes on to say (very graciously!): Could someone like the articulate and rational Philip Thomas of Ribandar help with the airport petition? Generally, with volunteering, anyone who suggests an idea should take the trouble to implement it. But, in this case, Mr Thomas is probably the best qualified to take the lead. Although I am keenly interested in the airport control issue I am not quite as net savvy as one might think so I could only contribute as a resource person on substantive matters which, of course, I would be very glad to do. Let's keep in touch.
[Goanet]AN IFFI AFFAIR
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## The 35th International Film Festival of India (IFFI) is over. It was held in Goa. To some it was a feast to others it was a nightmare. Some politicians and their contractor chums must be still feasting over the quick dividends they have amassed and are still swallowing by ensuring they hurriedly executed works for the International Film Festival of India (IFFI). But the people of Campal and densely populated Miramar are still recovering from the 11 day trauma and ordeal they have had to undergo due to the noisy and chaotic IFFI which was held in their vicinity. I salute the people of that area for having patiently and peacefully endured the pain. Anywhere else in India the organizers of such a show would have had to run for cover. Goa was chosen as the venue for the 2004 IFFI on political considerations. So was also almost everything focussed at Panaji to allow Goa's Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar some political mileage in his constituency? One get's a feeling that Assembly elections may be round the corner! The Government instead of focussing on priorities of good roads, uninterrupted power supply, adequate water supply and a decent health care for the local people chose to drain over Rs 120 crores to help the film industry, which is already one of the richest. So obsessed has been our Chief Minister with IFFI. It would have been appropriate that to begin with the IFFI idea should have been discussed within the Goa Legislative Assembly. Besides there should have been consensus within all political parties and leading NGO's. What was the need to steam roll such a mega project. A delay by a year or two would not have brought heaven's down. A well-planned IFFI might have made sense. But Manohar Parrikar likes to have his way. He has shown that he does not believe in the basic tenets of democracy. He has no time or the patience to consult and take others into confidence. This his own cabinet colleagues will vouch for. They may be 13 but they have nothing to do or any say in their portfolios. It is the Chief Minister who manages and manipulates it all. And the film world wants Goa as the permanent venue for IFFI. Where else will they get such hospitality. They were all treated like royals at taxpayer's expense. They had the best of it and will look forward for some more of it next year. The Government should have come out with a white paper as to in which way IFFI would be beneficial to Goa and Goans. Compared to the inconvenience and chaos the locals have had to endure we would have to see whether it was worth it. However a particular section of Goa's majority community has definitely made hay in the name of the IFFI bonanza. They have anyway had the last laugh ever since Manohar Parrikar assumed office as the Chief Minister has ensured that his community makes the best of it. The whole Government machinery was engrossed in IFFI. Infact most of the administration had come to a standstill. A forced holiday for governance which was infected with the IFFI virus. Will it be an annual trauma that will be forced on Goans? The organizers have been boasting about the thousands of registered delegates. It is public knowledge that most registered delegates were locals some of who had nothing to do with films but assembled as loyal BJP workers to ensure that the show goes on. Even a naked eye will record that most of the activities of the 11-day show had nothing to do with a film festival. Any and all entertainment under the sun was juggled up to the menu. With even a Kite festival loosely tagged to the fag end of the film festival. A film festival has to be serene, serious and business like. What we have seen was organized chaos and a noisy mela. If the government taught it could mislead the local people and the youth in particular they were mistaken. Nobody was and is against IFFI. What is and was rightly objected was the manner in which the idea of IFFI was bull dozed. No transparency and no consultation whatsoever. Nobody was involved. It was a one-man show and only Mr. Manohar Parrikar knew as to what was happening. The least that was expected was that at least the Corporation of city of Panaji would have been consulted on such a mega project being organised in their backyard. The reap of the project were so huge so why did the Chief Minister hesitate to share some crumbs with the Corporators of the City of Panaji at least for the sake of protocol. Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar should publicly apologize to the people of Panjim and its surrounding areas for the grave 11-day inconvenience caused to the residents due to the mismanagement in holding the IFFI. Goans also have a right to know as to how
Re: [Goanet]Re: Sea Harrier crash lands at the Naval air station at DABOLIM AIRPORT
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would appear that there's something drastically wrong with the Sea Harriers, or their operation in India, which isn't being admitted to by the authorities. Fred, Further to my earlier posting, the above caused me to ponder awhile on the maintenance issues of the aircraft, apart from regular maintenance that I'm sure the aircraft are subject to. After doing a bit of research on accidents in the UK, it appears that these accidents that had occurred in the past are very similar in nature to those that have occurred in India (Goa). It is my understanding, after having handled updates to maintenance manuals, emergency repair bulletins and warnings of impeding failure for the Brazilian Navy as received from the British MOD, Rolls-Royce, Westland Helicopters, etc. during my stint in London in the 1980s at the BNCE, that any issues/problems encountered and modifications carried out, after discovering shortcomings (as a result of accident investigations), are routinely disseminated to the owners of such sea-vessels and aircraft that have been designed and/or manufactured in the UK. I wonder if the Indian Navy has indeed carried out the recommended modifications (if any) to the aircraft as proposed by any emergency repair bulletins or heeded to warnings issued after similar accidents in the UK? Another thought that comes to mind is the quality of the spares used during maintenance. One might think a bolt is a bolt. However, a bolt has to meet certain criteria like tensile strength or whatever (engineers might be able to explain this better), indicated by the various standards (BS, NATO, DIN, etc). The personnel who purchase the supplies sometimes have no idea of what the bolt is supposed to be holding together. Thus being, discrepancies might occur especially if the authorities are after saving money and inferior or sub-standard replacements might find their way into the maintenance stores. Also, the purchaser has to trust that the supplier supplies the parts of the correct standard ordered. It is not uncommon that two apparently identical parts can be manufactured to two different standards. This was made clear when something as innucuous as a substandard 'O' ring caused the Challenger space-shuttle disaster. So all these aspects have to be investigated to be sure as to what caused the recent accident. Cheers, Gabriel. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Critical of IFFI
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Philip, Thank you for correcting me. Now that you have shown that you are smarter than me, why don't you spearhead the analysis. Call it what you want. But let's have an educated presentation. Or are your smarts just in trying to put down another Goan? Regards, GL Philip Thomas: Like it or lump it, postmortem is a legitimate term used in new product development. Btw, you don't do pretty badly with semantics yourself. Have fun.:) Now you seem to be doing a COST-BENEFIT analysis and not a SWOT analysis as originally advised! How come? Just throwing the word opportunity into the talk doesn't make it a SWOT analysis! Better luck next time!
Re: [Goanet]Sea Harrier crashes... factsheet
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indian Warbirds Warbirds Overseas Air Crashes News Features Links You may add the following regarding the UK crashes: 5 Dec 2002: A decorated pilot described as a legend in the Royal Navy has died after his Sea Harrier jet crashed on take-off at RAF Wittering in Cambridgeshire. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2545815.stm 2 Aug 2002: An RAF Harrier jet performing at an air show has crashed into the sea off the Suffolk coast. The accident happened in front of thousands of holidaymakers at the Lowestoft Air Show. The pilot ejected shortly after the engine failed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2168921.stm 10 Oct 2001: RAF engineers have salvaged a multi-million pound Royal Navy jet fighter which crashed into a river as it attempted to land at an air base in Somerset. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1586959.stm 24 Aug 2000: The crew of a Harrier jump jet escaped serious injury when they ejected from the fighter plane moments before it crashed to the ground and burst into flames. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/894905.stm 15 Jul 1999: Second Harrier crash sparks safety fears. The Ministry of Defence says there is no need to ground Harrier jump jets despite the second crash in the space of five days from the same air base. The pilot of an RAF Harrier GR7 ejected to safety, moments before his plane crashed and burst into flames near Cornhill on Tweed, Northumberland on Wednesday afternoon. ... Last Friday an RAF Harrier also based at Cottesmore crashed near Boston, Lincolnshire. The pilot also made a successful ejection from the aircraft. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/394738.stm 19 Dec 1998: A thorough investigation is beginning into why an RAF Harrier jump jet crashed into a field, killing its pilot. Air Force investigators are expected to spend the day sifting through the burned wreckage of the aeroplane which plummeted to the ground in County Durham. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/238346.stm Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Re: Sea Harrier crash lands at the Naval air station at DABOLIM AIRPORT
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel, You're doing violence to the debate by suggesting such an easy way out as the explanation. My apologies to the Naval service if I sounded too harsh. I am not saying this is an easy way out. In fact there may be basic faults in the design of the aircraft, which cannot be ruled out. However, human error cannot be ruled out either. Disappearance in night-time flying for example, by way of disorientation. Civilian pilots, I uderstand, are tested even for drug intake, and the tests can be as sensitive so much so that a pilot having eaten a poppy-seed cake a week earlier can show a positive reading for intake of opium-derivatives. My question is, are the Navy pilots tested at all? Remember that blood alcohol takes hours before you get a zero reading, so much so that my son (who has to have 0% BAC reading when at the wheel - as all 'P' licence-holders have to) refuses a beer at night if he has to drive in the morning. there's something drastically wrong with the Sea Harriers, or their operation in India, which isn't being admitted to by the authorities. Probably correct. In the meantimes, there is a loss of life and a huge waste of tax-payer's money. That is correct. That is why my post was not in the least light-hearted. It was as serious as the current TAC slogan against drink-driving in Victoria is Drink, Drive, Bloody Idiot!. The same slogan should apply to the pilots of the highly-expensive tax-payer funded aircraft. If a pilot does take off in one of these expensive aircraft when he is not exactly fit to do so, he is the one who is being light-hearted and thinks little of the common man. Gabriel. P.S. On another serious tack, at Christmas season (AKA the silly season) in Victoria, fleets of police Booze buses are seen at frequently at road-junctions testing drivers for alcohol, even during morning rush-hour. Anything above 0.05% for a full-licence holder and you're booked; for 'P' holders, it is 0% so also for any full-licence driver overseeing a learner driver. Drink-driving is a major cause of road-fatalities. Other facilities for preventing accidents at this time of the year are frequent rest places for holiday-drivers, as driver-fatigue is another frequent cause for fatal accidents. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Colvale panchayat commissioned a full-fledged fitness gymkhana at its premises
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## 000 CONGRATULATIONS ! 000 BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, DEC 19 - Colvale panchayat commissioned a full-fledged fitness gymkhana at its premises on Monday, equipment for which was donated by Wendell Rodricks, a well known fashion designer hailing from the village. At an impressive inaugural ceremony held on Monday, the gymkhana was thrown open to the public by film actor, Arbaz Khan and his wife, Mallika Arora Khan, in the presence of Rodricks, Colvale sarpanch, Nilkanth Halarnkar and other panchayat members. Halarnkar said the gymkhana would provide an avenue for the youth of the village to put their idle time to productive use. It will help us develop the physical fitness of our youngsters who will be assets to society in the years to come, Halarnkar said in his welcome address. Later, Rodricks said his decision to donate the equipment was inspired by his late father, who had specifically asked him to invest in providing his co-villagers productive avenues instead of merely falling prey to alcoholism. He thanked Khan for helping him locate the gym equipment from Mumbai, and urged the youth to make the best use of the facility. The Khans later also inaugurated a children's park in the vicinity of the panchayat office. Meanwhile, Halarnkar informed Herald that village youth will be allowed use of the gymkhana free of cost. Efforts will also be made to hire the services of a qualified trainer, he said. 00
[Goanet]Unwanted Remarks
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hey, Joe and Santosh, I doubt you even know what I was responding to. If you do, then there is another phrase you may want to keep in mind, Birds of a feather flock together. Tariq is a very smart and sensitive man. He does not deserve to be called stupid and insensitive in a public forum. His postings are also no more stupid and insensitive than those of the above poster. Cheers, Santosh I suppose Mario has not heard about the phrase: 'It takes one to know one'. It is is not right to call someone 'stupid', in a public forum. An MP did it in UK Parliament and got expelled for it. Similarly Mario should be expelled from this forum. Joe Dias.
[Goanet]Charles Sobhraj...
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Serial killer Charles Sobhraj was back in the news recently in Goa, with the O Coqueiro (after its ownership changed hands) putting up a figure to remind customers of the incident where Sobhraj was arrested many years back. While scanning through the Wikipedia, I came across an intriguing aspect: Wikipedia suggests Sobhraj's escape from Tihar jail was nothing but a means to get an extended jail sentence in India (so he didn't have to extradited to Thailand, where he faced imminent execution. See the entry below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sobhraj Sobhraj's systematic bribery of prison guards at Tihar reached outrageous levels. He led a life of leisure and luxury inside the jail, with TV, cell phones and gourmet food, having befriended both the guards and the prisonners. Revelling in his notoriety, he gave interviews to Western authors and journalists such as OZ magazine's Richard Neville in the late 1970s, and Alan Dawson in 1984. He freely talked about his murders while never actually admitting to them, and pretended that his actions were in retaliation against Western imperialism in Asia, an excuse which most criminologists find highly doubtful. He also needed to find a way to prolong his sentence, since the 20-year Thai arrest warrant against him would still be valid on his intended release date, leading to his deportation and almost certain execution. So in March 1986, on his tenth year inside, he threw a big party for his prisonner and guard friends and, having drugged them with sleeping pills, walked out of the jail. Sobhraj was quickly caught in Goa and had his prison term prolonged by 10 years, just as he had hoped. On February 17, 1997, 52-year old Sobhraj was released, with most warrants, evidence and even witnesses against him long lost. Without any country to deport him too, Indian authorities let him return to France. So, if his jail-break could have been faked, wouldn't that imply that the same was the case with his much highlighted re-arrest in Goa? Anyone has any inputs on this? FN PS: Thanks to all who pointed to useful links about the Sea Harriers story. Only with the Net, does the big picture and significance of it all become more than apparent... Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
[Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## An excerpt from Ronald Albuquerque's post: A large majority of self-identified Bush voters polled believe Saddam Hussein provided substantial support to Al Qaeda, and 47 percent believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction before the US invasion. Among the president's supporters, 57 percent queried think international public opinion favors Bush's reelection, and 51 percent believe that most Islamic countries support US-led efforts to fight terrorism. Response: It looks like Mr. Albuquerque cannot distinguish between voters in a poll and American authorities and decisionmakers. He refuses to look at actual reports by the US Senate's 9/11 Commission which said that Saddam DID NOT provide Al Qaeda with support for the 9/11 attack. President Bush has also said that on numerous occassions. The 9/11 Commission also documente numerous links between Saddam and Al Qaeda, which Mr. Albuquerque refuses to accept, preferring to believe what voters say to pollsters. Ronald repeats: No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, the Sept. 11 Commission found no evidence of substantial Iraqi support for Al Qaeda, and international public opinion polls have shown widespread opposition to Bush's reelection. Response: Yes, no WMDs have been found in Iraq. However, neither has there been any accounting of what happened to the WMDs Iraq had. There has been some speculation in reports, but no one knows for sure. Again, the 9/11 Commission detailed numerous links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. The entire report is available on www.senate.gov Ronald says: And many of the Bush voters surveyed knew that the Duelfer report said Hussein had no WMDs, but continue to believe that he did regardless. Response: Bush voters are using common sense. People know Saddam had used WMDs. People know he admitted having these and agreed to destroy them and provide proof that he had done so. People know he never did so, which was the violation of UN resolution 1441 that triggered the invasion. People know that it makes no sense to believe that Saddam put up with crippling economic sanctions for 12 years and then lost his didtatorship just after really destroying his WMDs. All he had to do if he had really destroyed his WMDs was to prove it to UN inspectors and go on happily brutalizing his people ever after. People know WMDs were not found after the regime change. The question is, what happened to the WMDs not accounted for. Mr. Albuquerque steadfastly dodges this question.
[Goanet]Re: [Goa net] Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it touching that you are concerned about the fate of American teenagers who have the cajones to volunteer and risk their lives on behalf of Iraqis and Afghans who were being brutalized by Muslim tyrants. Mario, There used to be a time when a teenager in Terre Haute, Indiana could look forward to a bright future. Ever since Bush started giving tax breaks to American companies exporting jobs to Canada, India and China, the job situation has become bleak. In fact, about the only job available to the American teenager there today, is to wear a uniform. The choice being: either volunteer for a uniform from one of the services or a uniform from McDonald's. Sadly, both jobs pay the same minimum wage. And your 31 cent contribution shows that you are a real philanthropist. I am a sucker for any request to teach people to read and write. Hence most on my money goes to Goa and Tanzania. My contribution to the teenagers of Terre Haute was out of pity. You certainly have no vision, no sympathy for people who are in trouble, and no understanding of what is going on in Iraq, with your cheap observations from the safety of a country that would not be able to defend itself from anyone without the protection of those same American teenagers. You have hit the nail on the head. US legislators believe that any attack on N. America is a direct attack on the US. My hats off to the Canadian lobby that has successfully propagated this. It leaves us with much more money to spend on education, health and social services. I used to read the Globe Mail until my information from other sources showed that it was full of blatant propaganda, not a respectable newspaper. It does not surprise me at all that you stopped reading The Globe and Mail ONLY after you were told by other sources that the newspaper is full of blatant propaganda, not a respectable newspaper. Just in case you are not aware of it, most Goanetters rely on their own intelligence to make such decisions. You Canadians are paying for a socialistic health system because you pay nothing for your defense relying on the US. Yet, people are coming across the border in droves for medical treatment because they would die waiting for their medical procedures. My folks, both in their seventies, migrated here only after their cronies assured them that they would receive better medical treatment than in Tanzania (where medical treatment is free too.) They have not been disappointed. You think you don't have to worry when a family member gets ill, but the Canadians who come to the US for treatment have testimonies that are just the opposite. I hope you don't find out how good your system is the hard way. Thanks for your concern. As a small business owner, I am sure you have experienced how medical insurance premiums can almost break the profitability of a business. I am also sure you are aware that American businesses are setting up operations in Canada because the Canadian health policy allows such companies to achieve a distinct competitive advantage :-) Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet]Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, I find it touching that you are concerned about the fate of American teenagers who have the cajones to volunteer and risk their lives on behalf of Iraqis and Afghans who were being brutalized by Muslim tyrants. I see that you had and have no sympathy for the 50 million Muslims that are being liberated and only contempt for their opportunity to live in freedom and democracy, which you enjoy for yourself. I am personally more concerned for the 1.2 billion Chinese who do not have an opportunity to live in freedom and democracy. Would you please ask Georgie to invade China and overthrow the repressive communists so that the 1.2 billion Chinese people can enjoy the fruits of demcoracy that we enjoy here? -Tariq __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]New York Times ( Was RE: The chickens coming home to roost)
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Your definition of the words liberalism and conservative truly escapes logic. How can a closed communist society of Eastern Europe be described as liberal? In the same vein, how can the socialist economic policies of India a few years ago be described as liberal? For you it seems, that every system that has failed, without understanding its reasons for failure, is a liberal system. -Tariq --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh, Actually, in your praise of liberalism you must be talking about classic social liberalism, which was good, not the modern political version, which, in the economic sphere is rooted in socialism, which is being consigned around the world to the dustbin of history, where it belongs. Liberalism is being held responsible for the economic and social malaise in Europe, and they are now realizing that their policies are not working out, with high inflation and unemployment rates and economic stagnation. In India and China, changing from the liberal socialist policies of the past is being called liberalization, which is a clever word to describe a move towards free markets and free trade and less government interference in the economy, which are conservative ideals. It is also good to be a conservative. Conservatism is one of the best things that ever happened to this world. Many of the greatest minds that have lived on this planet have been conservatives. They are responsible for saving the world from the Nazis, the Fascists, the Communists and the Imperialists. Most of our scientific and technological progress comes from the fruits of capitalism and conservative free market economics, and people from around the world have left their liberal countries and come to the conservative economic system in the US to prosper and earn Nobel Prizes over here. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: [Goanet]Invasion of Iraq was not about oil, surely?
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For once I would like you, Mervyn, Ronald, Santosh and any others who so stridently oppose every US action on every possible flimsy pretense, to make some comments about the previous plight of the Afghans under the Taliban, especially Afghan women and girls, the plight of the Shia and the Kurds under Saddam Hussein, and the plight of the Sudanese being brutalized by the Janjaweed. All of the above made comments on the behalf of the oppressed when it was happening. Much before you heeded the call of Paul Wolfowitz or Dick Cheney to say so. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
[Goanet]Thank you
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Thank you very much for sending me the GOANET BULLETIN so regularly. I enjoy reading it. I hope you will continue to send it to me. THANKS ONCE AGAIN. With Christmas round the corner,I wish you and all your near and dear ones A BLESSED CHRISTMAS AND A JOYOUS NEW YEAR. With my warm regards. Sincerely, +ALex Dias, (Bishop of Port Blair) - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.
Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Tim De Mello, The Sunni Baathist Iraqi insurgents have nothing to be grateful for, as their brutal domination of the majority Shia and Kurds has come to a bloody end. But, how about the couple of Canadian snipers on Goanet who take their US security blanket for granted? What's their excuse? From: halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks Has the chicken crossed the road? From: Tim De Mello: Of course not. It is not stupid. It knows that there is an IED planted there. It does not want to deprive the US forces of their gift from the grateful Iraqis.
[Goanet]The mess the US have made in Iraq
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Today's blast killing over 62 is just the latest of a long string of disasters that have followed the US occupation of Iraq. What is interesting is how the US media potrays these attacks. First it was Sadaam's loyalists Then it was the Baathist remnants Then it was the insurgents and followers of militant clerics Yesterday it was attacks by imsdurgents to coincide with the trials of Iraq leaders Now it is the insurgents trying to disrupt the elections After the elections it will be . . . . . . The US does not get it. There are no insurgents . . . just Iraqis who want to kick the US out. And they will. Just like the Vietnamese and lowly Somalians did when the US went to their countries. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA
Re: [Goanet]Little Prince in Konkani
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Some years ago the book was on sale at some bookstalls in Goa. I don't know whether it still is or if it is exhausted in the meantime. Try contacting Other India Bookstall in Mapusa. Jorge Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sunday, December 19, 2004 7:19 PM: A friend is searching for The Little Prince by Antoine Saint-Exupery in Konkani. Apparently, it was published as Mankulo Rajkuvar (in Devanagari Konkani) some years ago. Does anybody have any leads, as she would really like to obtain a copy of the book, since she is collecting this book in the various languages in which it has published? Reports are that it has been published in 142 languages. Do get in touch if you have any information.
[Goanet]Nostalgia books etc
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Wondering how the community feels about Goa nostalgia books. Is it good reading? Its nice to remember the past but the Goa of the future looks different quiet. Its nice for folks who have live away from Goa (and feel detached from the places they now live, assuming) to put their thoughts-memories down on paper... For those in America who have access to CBC Newsworld -Canada may have seen a recent airing of a one-hour special on Newfoundland: a bunch of writers-artist return to reflect their cultural identity,and their strong attachment to the island. The situation is very similar. Lets hear some of your thougts.
[Goanet]Highway from Pernem to Pollem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Jerry, Like it or not, if Goa's going to have a 4-Lane Highway, Pollem will have its fair share! Pollem, in Canacona happens to be the southernmost vaddo/wada in Goa through which the present national highway NH-17 passes through. The government plans to upgrade this highway from 2-lane to 4-lane. Pollem is also where we have the check post before crossing into Karnataka. Pollem is a tiny 'not-so-famous' hamlet because it hardly has any 'touristic' interests. It's more popularly known by Karwaris who hop across the border for a quick drink and the many bars that have come up in Pollem due to the price differences of alcohol in Goa and Karnataka. The next time you search for a place, don't ask Lonely Planet, ask a local. :-) Clinton.. Hello Goanetters Where is this place Pollem? I happened to check the lonely planet on Goa for some information about this place, but there wasnt any information, so if this place is not mentioned on one of the best travel guides of the world, than why this Highway for this place, what will it benefit the rest of the Goans, is the present Government planning to start Industries there where by Goans can get employment? Will it be another investment by our Government for future? The uncertain future? Is it modernizing Pollem after Panjim? Without doing anything good for the rest of Goans? Cheers Jerry Fernandes --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004
[Goanet]Highway from Pernem to Pollem
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi Jerry, Like it or not, if Goa's going to have a 4-Lane Highway, Pollem will have its fair share! Pollem, in Canacona happens to be the southernmost vaddo/wada in Goa through which the present national highway NH-17 passes through. The government plans to upgrade this highway from 2-lane to 4-lane. Pollem is also where we have the check post before crossing into Karnataka. Pollem is a tiny 'not-so-famous' hamlet because it hardly has any 'touristic' interests. It's more popularly known by Karwaris who hop across the border for a quick drink and the many bars that have come up in Pollem due to the price differences of alcohol in Goa and Karnataka. The next time you search for a place, don't ask Lonely Planet, ask a local. :-) Clinton.. Hello Goanetters Where is this place Pollem? I happened to check the lonely planet on Goa for some information about this place, but there wasn't any information, so if this place is not mentioned on one of the best travel guides of the world, than why this Highway for this place, what will it benefit the rest of the Goans, is the present Government planning to start Industries there where by Goans can get employment? Will it be another investment by our Government for future? The uncertain future? Is it modernizing Pollem after Panjim? Without doing anything good for the rest of Goans? Cheers Jerry Fernandes
[Goanet]Creating Goa-centric petitions...
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Some of you would have heard of petitionsonline.com. This is a network that provides free online hosting of public petitions for responsible public advocacy. It says of itself: We give you the ancient methods of grassroots democracy, combined with the latest digital networked communications, running live and free 24 hours a day. Can we think of some petitions for Goa? If one could suggest: (i) A petition over the early resolution of the Dabolim airport control issue, making this airport really serve the interests of the state ... (ii) A petition highlighting the seriousness of the malaria problem in Goa. Should we be waiting for more cases like those of Cyril Pacheco, Principal Newman Fernandes' wife Prazilia, and Nuno Fonseca, besides so many others who have just been reduced to a statistic? Could someone like the articulate and rational Philip Thomas of Ribandar help with the airport petition? Generally, with volunteering, anyone who suggests an idea should take the trouble to implement it. But, in this case, Mr Thomas is probably the best qualified to take the lead. Even if we can't expect the authorities to read and take some initiative, at least we would be able to get create more awareness among netizens about the seriousness of the issues involved. That could be a good starting point. FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
[Goanet]Vasco poet regales Goans in Delhi
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## VASCO POET REGALES GOANS IN DELHI 'Amchea bhavan kovita ji boroilea te amche bhashen borovon ekdom borem kelam, kiteak chodd zann English bhashen boroitat. Amchem bhashen mann devouk ami te amchea bhashen aikonk kai borem! Dev borem korum, amche bhashen nanv voir kadd.' -Fatima Barretto, who was present at the poetry reading in New Delhi Spontaneous claps and cheers greeted Dr Brian Mendonca when he took the stage and informed the 400-strong crowd of Goans in Delhi that they had every reason to be proud. From amongst their own was a Goan poet whose poems were recently recognized by the national academy of literature in India, viz. the Sahitya Akademi in their June 2004 volume of Indian Literature showcasing new poetry in India. It was not only a matter of pride for Goans worldwide, but also for the fact that what Brian writes so movingly about, i.e. Goan experience, is now part of India's archive of national literary history. Indeed, 'Afternoon' written on Good Friday in Mangor Hill, Vasco (1998) opens the Sahitya Akademi collection. 'Slippers in the Sand' (1998) written at Baina is also part of the collection. Brian said that to be heard by Goans in Delhi was a homecoming for him. What was extra special was the reading of a translation of two of Brian's poems into Konkani rendered beautifully by Daniel F de Souza in Vasco, -- the organizer of Brian's first ever poetry reading, in Vasco in September this year. This is Brian's poem 'Afternoon': In the afternoon / the mynahs / chirp in / Mangor./ The languid summer air / is nailed to the wood, / As my father's / toes / twitch in sleep. The translation: Donparchea vellar / salori / roddtat / Mangrant./ Jiv naslolo / Gormencho varo / Marta sukhea lankhdar, / Nident astana / mhojea paichea paiamchim / bottam xir-xirtat. Brian began with his much-loved poem 'Last Bus to Vasco' which had the crowd in splits with the Konkani bits. Next Brian read his poem 'I Am Not Alone' and the powerful Konkani translation 'Hanv Eklo Na'. Brian would have liked to have read 'Slippers in the Sand' with its Konkani translation 'Zotim Renvent' -- and no doubt the people would have loved it -- if Fr Aires Furtado, who was acting as MC, had not butted in immediately after the inspiring last line 'Hanv eklo nanv' saying in slapstick way 'Hanv eklo nanv, ami dog zan ha', and announcing the lemon and spoon race for children. Furtado's pathetic attempt at humour did not take away from the fact that the Goans in Delhi enjoyed every moment of the poetry reading and perhaps would have have been well-pleased to use their minds for a change instead of the usual boring stretches of d-a-a-n-c-i-n-g and e-e-a-t-i-n-g and p-l-a-a-y-i-n-g H-o-u-s-i-e-e-e-e. As Fatima Barretto wrote in Brian's visitor's book later, Amchea bhavan kovita ji boroilea te amche bhashen borovon ekdom borem kelam, kiteak chodd zann English bhashen boroitat. Amchem bhashen mann devouk ami te amchea bashen aikonk kai borem! Dev borem korum, amche bhashen nanv voir kadd. Brian read his poems in the community centre of the Sacred Heart Cathedral, Goldakhana, New Delhi at the Annual day-long celebrations of the Feast of St Francis Xavier hosted by the St Francis Xavier Goan Society, New Delhi on Sunday 5 December 2004.
[Goanet]Prisons of Shame - 1
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Prisons of Shame - 1 (Gomantak Times Weekender, 19th December 2004) This is just a trailer. For sometime now, GT and Weekender had been conducting inquiries and an investigation on the state of the prison system in Goa. Our studies were helped to a large extent by several petitions, specially one by Benito Rodrigues of Ponda into the torture, corruption and violence in Goa's jails, including the famous Aguada jail. The high-powered committee constituted by the Bombay High Court to investigate the points in the petition will submit its report on Monday, December 20. From today and then in the subsequent issues of Gomantak Times, we will run a multipart series PRISONS OF SHAME on the daily hell that Goa's prisons have become for the inmates. Every law in the book seems to be broken, including the biggest one -- the law of dignity and respect. Sex for toothpaste and other jail tales By Reuven Proenca A person in prison does not become a non-person. The Model Prison Manual for the Superintending and Management of Prisons in India. Cut to The Aguada Central Jail (for that matter to any prison in the country). Full of prisoners. But no human beings. If they want toothpaste, they offer sex, if they want parole papers delivered, pay bribes. At every step, in every cell and in every prison, the model prison manual, the most recent, and path-breaking, prison manual in the country, is being made a mockery by the prison administration and the government of Goa Incidentally, Goa had its own representative on the panel responsible for compiling the manual. On the contrary, the state prison authorities still refer to the, now outdated, Jail Manual which was issued in 1968. Administration of jails is the responsibility of the North Goa District Collector who is appointed the Inspector General of Prisons (IGP) and is forced to balance his responsibilities administering the district and jails across the state. This is unlike other states where an Indian Police Service (IPS) officer is delegated with the sole responsibility of prison administration. But that is the least of the problems affecting prisoners being held in Goan jails. Reliable sources talk of how prisoners are forced to proffer sexual favours to fellow inmates in return for a pea-sized lump of toothpaste. Another, less humiliating, way of getting toothpaste is for prisoners to exchange their weekly morsel of chicken. At the Aguada Central Jail, perhaps the worst in the state, inmates complain about sleeping on concrete floors with nothing but a sackcloth for comfort. Morning meals literally comprise a loaf of dry bread and a mug of black tea because the state has made provisions for a sum of Rs 25 to feed each prisoner, per day. If that isn~Rt bad enough they have to mind the sand that often falls off the roof into their food. A day at Aguada, prisoners say, is the closest you can get to hell particularly if the electricity shuts off, a common occurrence. Being stuck in the dungeons of Aguada without ample ventilation and no electricity is worse than torture aggravated by the fact that the prison depends on a well for water. Cellmates of convicted paedophile Freddy Peats have complained about having to clean up his urine and faeces since he has lost control of his bowels and bladder. While there are clear guidelines about keeping ailing prisoners in jail, sick and invalid inmates continue to languish at Aguada. The new central jail that was supposed to have come up at Curca in 1998 has remained a design on a piece of paper as the prisons~R administration have more than just dragged their feet on the project. Sources claim that the existing sub-jail at Sada, Vasco, cannot house long-term prisoners since inmates cannot be exposed to sunlight in its underground confines. Others talk about the rampant corruption that has spread, not unlike a cancer, and determines whether or not a convict~Rs parole papers are delivered, or whether he gets back the gold wedding band he had to surrender to the jailor before he is imprisoned. Harassment from jailors has prompted inmates to appeal for help and on one occasion, to even go on hunger strike. Interestingly, this isn~Rt the treatment meted out only to hardened criminals but also to undertrials whose guilt or innocence have not been proved yet. Social workers familiar with Goa~Rs prisons say that the conditions are enough for a perfectly sane man to become a psychologically unstable, hardened criminal. The Prisons Administration has particularly failed in the area of reformation of prisoners. While provisions are made for doing odd jobs and vocational training they include subjects like chalk, candle and
[Goanet]NEWS: Sesa Goa declares 50% interim dividend
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Wonder how much of the returns of mining companies in Goa goes to restore the ravaged economy of the interior areas of the state. Any figures? FN http://www.myiris.com/newsCentre/newsPopup.php?fileR=20041218104941002dir=2004/12/18secID=livenews Sesa Goa declares 50% interim dividend Source: IRIS NEWS DIGEST (18 December 2004) Steel company Sesa Goa has declared a 50 per cent interim dividend for the current fiscal and also a bonus equity share for one existing equity share, reports Economic Times. The board on Friday decided to pay interim dividend of Rs five per share of Rs 10 for the current fiscal for which record date is January 7, 2005.
[Goanet]Solemnity of Birthday of JESUS 25/12/2004
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## For Christians the world over Christmas is an ocassion STRICTLY for the celebration of the Birth of Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago. Therefore it calls for a celebration of this solemn ocassion with due religious overtones and the dignity solemnity and respect befitting such ocassion. For Catholics in Goa --- should remember that over the years several others who believe otherwise descend in Goa for ENTERTAINMENT in any form during the Christmas season. This FREE FOR ALL on such a solemn ocassion has tarnished the fair name of the Catholic community in Goa as cheap gullible and easy going which needs to be reversed. The majority community in Goa that this writer has contacted besides Catholics are one on this issue. Therefore they must not only be told in clear terms and given to understand that Christmas is a solemn ocassion with religious overtones and that activites of other forms of Entertainment can be deferred for the year end or NEW YEARs Day but not during the Chirstmas season. This is the message that every Catholic in Goa needs to convey during Christmas. Just as other religions maintain due solemnity decorum during their festive days, ensure that Catholics do not turn Christmas as a free for all jumboree There is a demand from several well meaning Catholics in Goa that the Archdiocese of Goa Daman should give a clarion call to all Catholics in Goa on this score. This is the message for all good Catholics to be preached practiced this season. SAY NO TO COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT this CHRISTMAS Godfrey J I Gonsalves Borda Margao Goa. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
[Goanet]Book Review: GOA a Rediscovery
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## GOA a Rediscovery Ben Antão Goan Observer Private Limited, Panjim-Goa Rs150, pp 99 Ben Antão, who resides in Toronto, is an active writer known to Canadians and to Goans in diaspora. His first book, Images of Goa, published in 1990, brings out the cultural vibrancy and harmony of Goan cultures. The book was well received, and a friend of mine who teaches at Chicago State University introduced it in his teaching program. Goas Rediscovery, Bens second book, a collection of essays, reads like reportage of his trip to Goa with his wife Marinella. But when I read it again for the second time, I had a different insight. Ben was born in the village of Velim, Goa, before the Liberation. He was raised on the pristine sprit of Goa of that time. He worked as a reporter for The Navhind Times (Goa). His having imbibed that Goan spirit, and when fate took him to US, and then to Canada, where he makes his home now, he never left Goa He had saudades (Portuguese term) of Goa, Goa that he was born and raised; he pined for his native land. Most Goans in diaspora, born in Goa, do. In these essays the writer talks a lot about foods and drinks. Relishing Goan dishes of his youth- Goan soul foods, like, ambot tik with rice or supping with sorpatel and sannam, and sipping maddel or caju in an authentic Goan home ambience - the author connects to that Goan spirit of his youth that he was pining for in the wintry Toronto. Another simple domestic core of yore that connects the author to the memories of gone by, reverberating the images of the past, is the scent of smoke that he inhales - seeing fire heating water in a copper urn in the backyard of Tony Barretos house, Galgibaga. The author was Tonys guest. The cherished memories of his youth must have returned when the author was scooping the warm water from the urn with a pitcher to have a warm bath; and if, I am not deluded, this is a perfect gift that Tony gave to the author. Though Goa has changed, the author discovers the true spirit of Goa in the villages. And when Tonys mother expresses her pleasure by saying with genuine sincerity, Tum amgue ghora don dis raulo mhun amkam dadosborit zalen., her words must have touched authors heart, connecting him to the spirit of Goa, Goa that he was brought up with. These essays in this Collection are like quaffs of Goas spirit quenching that insatiable thirst in the writers being. The writer puts it in this way, a journey of rediscovering my homeland and reconnecting with my roots. This is exactly what these essays are all about. Lest this rediscovery be erased from his mind or his readers, he gives us a plethora of pictures both in colour and in black and white. Goans in diaspora, mostly born in Goa, will enjoy reading these essays. The book is available from the publisher in Goa, and also from the author at 18 Geraldon Crescent, Toronto, Ont. M2J 2R6 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lino Leitão Dorval, Canada
[Goanet]Unwanted Remarks
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq, No, you can't. Are you as stupid and insensitive as this postings would indicate? Tariq is a very smart and sensitive man. He does not deserve to be called stupid and insensitive in a public forum. His postings are also no more stupid and insensitive than those of the above poster. Cheers, Santosh I suppose Mario has not heard about the phrase: 'It takes one to know one'. It is is not right to call someone 'stupid', in a public forum. An MP did it in UK Parliament and got expelled for it. Similarly Mario should be expelled from this forum. Joe Dias.
RE: [Goanet]In 5 years Macau gallops while Goa remains in a third world rut
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: The US is coming in large numbers to invest in the form of Casinos. == I do not consider this a blessing. In fact, just the reverse. I would not wish this on anyone. I hope that there are other factors contributing to Macau's econonmy growing by 20%. In Canada, gambling is now being recognized as a social evil. The Ontario government is going to be sued by some who have gone bankrupt as a result of gambling. And the government's defence case is recognized as not strong. Also, for some reason, it appears that oreintals have a penchant for gambling - more so that other visible immigrants. Not sure why that is. A visit to any casino in the GTA will confirm this. But the Casino owners here ar well aware of this and are targeting them. See today's Toronto Star Casinos playing race card. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA
[Goanet]Konkani Ek Ankhi Nattkuleancho Spodha
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Konkani Ek Ankhi Nattkuleancho Spordha Kuwaitche xarant Konknni machier ithias rochpi United Club of Utorda, tumchea mukhar haddttat, Goan Welfare Society-Kuwait hanchea pallvan, tanchem segit choutea vorsavolichem Konkani Ek Ankhi Nattkuleancho Spordha. Ho spordha Gulf English Auditorium, Rumeithiya, Janerache 28ver 2005, justuch sanjechea 3.30 vaztam suru zatlo. Voznadik borovpachi kola Kuwaitche Konknni machier ek ankhi nattkuleachea rupan dhakoupak panch urbhevont digdorspeani bhag ghetla. Tanchim ani nattkuleamchim suspense nanvam oxim asat: 1)AMI SUKHI LOK DUKHI Digdorspi Anthony Carr (Quepem) 2)SURYAK LAGLAM GIRANN Digdorspi Ignatius de Xelvon 3)LOKAK ZAI ZALEAR Digdorspi Joe Ferreira (Assolna) 4)KIMSAM Digdorspi Salu Faleiro (Betalbatim) 5)MOG DIAT Digdorspi Felix de Merces Dor ek nattkuleachea survatek, suadik talleachea avazan, prekxokank kormunnunk (divertiment) divnk toiaren ravleat Kuwaitche Konknni machie vele famad Goem-Munglurche vhodd kantoristanchem bhirem: Gracy Morais, Michael DSilva, Simon Gonsalves, Ignatius de Xelvon, Zoro, Bab Agnel, Nelson Fernandes, Seby ani Seby, Laurente Pereira, Donald, Sylvester Vaz, Jose Rod, ani Munglurchim tikam Ronie-Jasmine ani Bab Graham Rodrigues. Sodham porim lhan kolakarank vorsachea vorsa UCU Konknni machier toiar korta ani he khepek sath vorsamcho por Bab Palen DCosta tumkam dipkaitolo. Chukoinastana tachi gaupachi kola pollevpak tuzi boska poilich sugur korchi. Itlean somplem na .Sogleancho avddicho Amche Vichar-Tumchi Zap ho karriokram hea khepek veglech toren toear kela . Fuddli mahiti mellunk hea telefonar sompork (contact) kor Chequinho:6364366, Laurent 6262597 Nicholaus:9732917 = http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet][OFFTOPIC] Medicine's bibliographic database - over email
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## http://www.nongnu.org/pm2mail/ PUBMED-to-Email - Project Page Welcome to PUBMED-to-Email, or in short, pm2mail. The Web has many useful resources, but it takes time to find them. In most developing countries, connectivity is slow, web access is limited and users pay for time spent on-line, which is frequently expensive. pm2mail is a software tool to allow access to PUBMED - the U.S. National Library of Medicine's bibliographic database - over email. Aditionally, pm2mail is able to retrieve fulltext article from publishers websites and distribute them by email. Currently, some free juornals are uspported, such as BMJ, CMAJ and most BioMedCentral journals. Testing pm2mail: For a test drive, please use the main pm2mail server. on-line at: http://pm2mail.krot.org or via email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a service of West African Doctors Network). Table of Contents * about pm2mail * pm2mail manual * Mailing List * Installation * pm2mail software on savannah: * downloads Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
[Goanet]Re: Critical of IFFI
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## 1. Re: Philip Thomas comments, postmortem may be a term to be used. Though as we all know, it is done on someone who is dead. IFFI with a budget outlay of 75 crore is too important to be bogged down in semantics. Like it or lump it, postmortem is a legitimate term used in new product development. Btw, you dont do pretty badly with semantics yourself. Have fun.:) 2.Do we know the exact number of tourists that came for the event and the tax- and other receipts generated during these two weeks? And this would be only the start! We should directly weigh the financial cost against the financial gains. We should weigh cultural costs against the cultural gains. And this should go down the line comparing /weighing apples with apples and oranges with oranges. Etc. While weighing one against the other are there OPPORTUNITIES where they can be structured/ formatted to complement each other? Now you seem to be doing a COST-BENEFIT analsysis and not a SWOT analysis as originally advised! How come? Just throwing the word opportunity into the talk doesn make it a SWOT analysis! Better luck next time!
Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## From: halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks Has the chicken crossed the road? Of course not. It is not stupid. It knows that there is an IED planted there. It does not want to deprive the US forces of their gift from the grateful Iraqis.
Re: [Goanet]Re: Critical of IFFI
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Dear George, And we at Goa Su-Raj thought that none of our Goemkars in the cyberfora and diaspora would come out with SWOT analysis. As far as IFFI is concerned, it is the last thing that Goa needs. Manohar Parrikar seems to be a pussy cat, in that, he does not know what ticks IFF in the first place. He does not know that it is a film bazaar, a market place to sell films. Therefore the best of films of the best producers are put on display. Constracts are signed, film rights etc are transfered. Let Parrikar tell us how many films were sold or contracted for during this Panjim extravaganza. He, being the kattar RSS, has always deplored Goa's long standing Carnaval Fiesta. He is trying to replace it with IFFI. Will someone give him a good knock on his stupid head and tell him that the street shows and Miramar beach screening of films, the food festival etc is not an integral part of IFFI, and that too at the tax-payer's cost?? He has blown off Goa's vital monetary resources on flunkies (whom we call 'funkot choddus'), wined and dined them, transported them to and fro all for a pat on his back. Rajan Narayan has portrayed him as a peacock. I fully stand by Rajan on that. And some flunkies call him the Best CM of Goa. What a load of bull. He has been able to get away with it temporarily because we have more spineless flunkies sitting in the opposition and eating out of Parrikar's hand. Floriano goasuraj. - Original Message - From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:26 AM Subject: [Goanet]Re: Critical of IFFI --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think now is the time for Goans, the press, their elected representatives, bureaucrats and Mr. Parrikar to do the well accepted SWOT analysis of IFFI. [SWOT] stands for: Strengths, Weakness, Opportunities and Threats. I think Gilbert must have missed the ongoing SWOT analysis of IFFI in Goan cyberfora. To summarize: STRENGTHS: Goa's image WEAKNESSES: Goa's image Excessive cost subsidies at Goan taxpayer's expense Wrong priorities for Goa Government should not be in the IFFI business Lack of transparency Lack of accountability Lack of benefits for locals Lack of Konkani films Lack of good films So-called Bollywood tourists did not pay for their stay Consumerism Exploitive capitalism Cultural imperialism Traffic congestion/bridge closure OPPORTUNITIES: Use the time and money instead to take care of Goa's basic needs: infrastructure, health care, education Focus on Goan entertainment instead (e.g. mando festivals) Focus on entertainment accessible to the masses THREATS: Another opportunity for corruption Adding to the state's fiscal woes and deficit Distraction from Goa's real problems If the question is What does Goa need, the answer is not IFFI. Some have suggested improving the IFFI next year. Seems odd. If a cancer is present, it should be treated/removed or the patient dies. Better to encourage instead the many other suggested healthy alternatives. Regards, George
[Goanet]Little prince in konkani
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Please contact Madhavi Sardessai, Department of Konkani, Goa University. She is the translator of the book. regards, Samir Kelekar A friend is searching for The Little Prince by Antoine Saint-Exupery in Konkani. Apparently, it was published as Mankulo Rajkuvar (in Devanagari Konkani) some years ago. Does anybody have any leads, as she would really like to obtain a copy of the book, since she is collecting this book in the various languages in which it has published? Reports are that it has been published in 142 languages. Do get in touch if you have any information.
Re: [Goanet]Sea Harrier
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, David Futers wrote: A recent documentary on TV suggested that the Sea Harrier is one of the most difficult craft to fly. Hi Dave: Any statistics of crashes or mishaps in the UK? FN
[Goanet]Re: Critical of IFFI
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Hi George, Thanks for the response, analysis and the feed-back. I hope the following advances the dialogue. I did not see any 'quantifiable end-points' in your presentation and in those of others. All we have in Goan cyberspace are opinions (INCLUDING MINE). People in the know and those directly involved are not talking or writing. And that is something that is always a drawback. Do we know the exact number of tourists that came for the event and the tax- and other receipts generated during these two weeks? And this would be only the start! We should directly weigh the financial cost against the financial gains. We should weigh cultural costs against the cultural gains. And this should go down the line comparing /weighing apples with apples and oranges with oranges. Etc. While weighing one against the other are there OPPORTUNITIES where they can be structured/ formatted to complement each other? Goans have fifty weeks in a year to celebrate and expand our Konkan and Goan culture. But we complain about the two weeks of Cultural imperialism. Similar objections occur about our language. BTW the notion of Cultural imperialism applied to European culture in Asia and other colonies. It appears definitions are changing. :=)) Is there any evidence that IFFI prevented Goans from the gorrment services / weakness you describe? Was there transparency before? Or are there other factors in this equation. If no! Why they were not accomplished in the last 40 years? Is IFFI a zero sum cost and gain? Or is there / can be a win-win situation? How does San Francisco have both ani tea bhair more? Keeping with medical analogies, because childbirth has severe pains, ruins her figure, and starts other problems and issues, that does not stop the mother, father ani society from having more children. Re: Philip Thomas comments, postmortem may be a term to be used. Though as we all know, it is done on someone who is dead. IFFI with a budget outlay of 75 crore is too important to be bogged down in semantics. IMHO deliberations in Goan cyberfora on this topic, including mine, have to date added-up to be some feijoada. :=)) And we love feijoada. Thanks for the comments and the participation. Regards Gilbert George Pinto: I think Gilbert must have missed the ongoing SWOT analysis of IFFI in Goan cyberfora. To summarize: STRENGTHS: Goa's image WEAKNESSES: Goa's image Excessive cost subsidies at Goan taxpayer's expense Wrong priorities for Goa Government should not be in the IFFI business Lack of transparency Lack of accountability Lack of benefits for locals Lack of Konkani films Lack of good films So-called Bollywood tourists did not pay for their stay Consumerism Exploitive capitalism Cultural imperialism Traffic congestion/bridge closure OPPORTUNITIES: Use the time and money instead to take care of Goa's basic needs: infrastructure, health care, education Focus on Goan entertainment instead (e.g. mando festivals) Focus on entertainment accessible to the masses THREATS: Another opportunity for corruption Adding to the state's fiscal woes and deficit Distraction from Goa's real problems If the question is What does Goa need, the answer is not IFFI. Some have suggested improving the IFFI next year. Seems odd. If a cancer is present, it should be treated/ removed or the patient dies. Better to encourage instead the many other suggested healthy alternatives. Regards, George Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think now is the time for Goans, the press, their elected representatives, bureaucrats and Mr. Parrikar to do the well accepted SWOT analysis of IFFI. [SWOT] stands for: Strengths, Weakness, Opportunities and Threats.
Re: [Goanet]Delimitation: Beyond limitations!
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## As a Mhapxenkar myself (though born elsewhere and presently settled abroad), I offer three cheers to Miguel Braganza for having written all that he wrote safeguarding and upholding the rights of his and my Mhapxem. Jorge - Original Message - From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mapusa-Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aldona-Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: [Goanet]Delimitation: Beyond limitations! The Public hearing on the draft delimitation of 40 Assembly constituencies in Goa proposed by the Justice[Retd] Kuldip Singh headed panel was held at Institute Menezes Braganza Hall, Panaji on 15 December,2004. The people of Goa spoke their mind. They wanted status quo with respect to their association with places central to their lives. 1. The residents of Zua, Zuem [ both words in Konkani and meaning 'island'] or Santo Estevao or St.Estevam[ meaning 'St.Stephen's Island', a name given by the Portuguese during the colonial era] wnated to be part of the riverine island group in the Mandovi just like the islands of Oceania or Polynesia. It makes sense. The constituency is known as Cumbarjua [meaning 'island of clay potters' after the profession of most of its original inhabitants.]. It also has the islands of Divar, Vanxim and Chorao[now connected to Mayem in Bicholim taluka by a bridge]. In the colonial days when transport was primarily by river craft, these islands shared their life and culture with those on the biggest island of Goa- Tiswadi[comprising of Panaji,St.Cruz,Merces,Curca, Pilar, Ela, Neura,Agacaim,etc] or Ilha de Goa. Together the grouping was known as ILHAS meaning simply ISLANDS. Who can controvert such reasoning. Even the sitting Mayem MLA agreed with the islanders! 2. The story of Ozorim or Vazri in Pernem taluka was no different. The people just do not want to be associated with Tivim Constituency in Bardez taluka. 3. The village of Gaunsavaddo is the nucleus of Mapusa. Gaunsa vaddo ward of the Gauns families], Angodd [ old market area],Tolivaddo[ bank of the then lake or Toli ] formed the Mapusa town as it grew along the banks of Mapusa river. The Gauns families worshipped goddes Tulzai and had their chaudi[ seat of the gaunkari] next to it. They immersed their Ganapati in the river next to the temple. Tiles from Mangalore [ Sulche nove] arrived by sail-craft and were landed at the nearby tar[ river crossing] even till the early 1980s, when the pipe bridge for the NH-17 at the 'tar' put an end to this and prevented the Mapusa river from flushing itself clean during the monsoons.It has silted during the last 20 years. Today the temple is a Church, half the Gauns ar Bragancas, the chaudi is the Communidade building but the immersion of the Ganapati continues at the same spot [de-silted this year to allow for the idols to remain immersed at low tide.] . Why should anyone want to put this part of Mapusa town into Aldona Constituency? It is a question that the Mapusa resident, Mapusa Gaunkar, ex-President of the Mapusa Communidade, ex-Chairman of the Mapusa Municipal Council, current Mapusa MLA, Minister for IT, and Associate member of the Delimitation Commission will be hard put to explain. It may be more difficult to explain this than his alleged role in the vandalization of Hotel Mandarin[ belonging to his former mentor, fellow gaunkar and ex-President of the Mapusa Communidade, Matthew Braganza].Perhaps , he was tricked into the 'demolition derby'. What explantion is there for his silence now. Perhaps his words to a friend on the steps of IMB after the public hearing explains a part of it. Sid he, They want me out, even if it means having the seat reserved for SC or words to that effect in Konkani. Actually, we want to have the communidade, church, cemetary and hospital in Mapusa...even if it means that Babush will have to contest elsewhere. Mapusa resident Manohar Parrikar contests in Panaji, Dayanand Narvekar contests in Aldona and Tivim and Ramakant Khalap contests in Mandrem with success rates in getting elected unmatched by anyone except the wily Dr.Willy in Saligao constituency. With his organisational ability [which includes routinely getting Mapusa gaunkars from all over..Esteves of Merces, Palhas of Goa Velha and Braganzas from Khanapur-Belgaum for Communidade elections in Mapusa], there is no reason why he should not win in Siolim Constituency[ which presently includes part of Mapusa]or the proposed Guirim constituencies. It took another gaunkar and current Attorney of the Mapusa Communidade and Chairman of MMC, Michael Carrasco, to buck
Re: [Goanet]Invasion of Iraq was not about oil, surely?
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## However, you must know that the jihadis are active in the UK and are just looking for an opportunity for another 9/11 in the UK. So, watch your own back, and leave the defense of the Afghans, the Iraqis and Sudanese to the Americans, the Brits and the Australians. Pretty confusing statements Probably the writer feels Brits have left UK shores to defend the above places! Cheers, Seb PS: Or may been I was very bad in my Geography :-)
[Goanet]RESEARCH: Tidal eddies in a semi-enclosed basin: a model study.
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mar Environ Res 2004;59(5) Tidal eddies in a semi-enclosed basin: a model study. National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula, Goa 403 004, India. A modeling study has been carried out to support a Marine Management Plan for the Gulf of Kachchh, India and here the hydrodynamic part of the programme is described. The hydrodynamic model accurately predicts the tides and tidal currents present in the Gulf and these have been validated with the measured data, albeit at only a few locations. The time averaged residual currents obtained from the model for one lunar cycle clearly reproduce the complex, small-scale, topographically induced flows with several eddies. The existence of a dynamic barrier along Sikka-Mundra section, which divides the Gulf into two distinct dynamic systems, is very evident. The model is further used to predict the movement of surface floating particles launched at different locations in the Gulf, as an aid to determining floating pollutants. The results indicate that industries discharging wastes upstream of the barrier should use extreme caution, as these will remain in the vicinity for at least one lunar cycle. Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
Re: [Goanet] In 5 years Macau gallops while Goa remains in a third world rut
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Migration is unprecedented. It is believed that Helekar is taking many of those to his backyard in Chimbel I hope there will be more volunteers to this migration cause. Stinking lies my land. Stinking lies from Xacuti Colaco. Chimbel is a proud, independent nation with a single, sovereign democratic administration, not some lowly special administration region of a non-democratic communist third world country. Chimbel's economy has grown 100% in the last five years. Unlike helpless Macau, we are not dependent on illegal casinos owned by corrupt foreigners. We don't let third rate foreigners plunder our third world wealth. We are not slobbering slaves of imperialists and colonialists. We eat our own money. We drink our own feni. We have our own water. We own our own tavernas. Our cow business is the envy of the world. As you know, we put the cau in Macau. We welcome all Bharati migrants and mosquitoes. All freedom-loving Bharatis who are not with the tourorrists are with us. They are either with us or with the tourororrists. We don't let the tourists who hate our freedom destroy our way of life. We smoke the tourists out of their caves and their holes, get them running and then catch them. Our land is Bharati land, independent and free, with a great democratic Bharati ruler who hears God's words in his ears everyday. President Pandurang Fernandes was just voted back in power by the voting machines. Demoo was responsible for oiling the voting machines. Democracy was once again vindicated because as required by the IRC constitution Demoo was involved in the outcome of the election. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Little Prince in Konkani
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## A friend is searching for The Little Prince by Antoine Saint-Exupery in Konkani. Apparently, it was published as Mankulo Rajkuvar (in Devanagari Konkani) some years ago. Does anybody have any leads, as she would really like to obtain a copy of the book, since she is collecting this book in the various languages in which it has published? Reports are that it has been published in 142 languages. Do get in touch if you have any information.
[Goanet]19 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 19, 2004. THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Ixttagot ek soirigot koxi hatam ani dolleam modhem. Jednam hat dukhovta, dolle roddtat, ani jednam dolle roddtat, hat dukam pustat. (Friendship is like the relationship between the hands and the eyes. When the hand gets hurt, the eyes cry and when the eyes cry, the hand wipes the tears.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOA CELEBRATES LIBERATION DAY: Goa is all set to celebrate the 43rd anniversary of its Liberation today, 19 December. Flag hoisting ceremonies will be ported in all the talukas. The main function will be held at Parade Ground Campal where Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar will unfurl the tricolour, give the National salute, inspect the parade, present awards to outstanding personalities and address the people, at 9.15 am. The Governor SC Jamir will host a reception at the lawns of Raj Bhavan in the evening at 5.00 pm. The Raj Bhavan will be illuminated on 19 December and entry will be given to the public to see the illumination. However, their entry into Raj Bhavan is restricted. (WE-GT) FILM ON GOA'S LIBERATION DRAWS FLAK: A documentary on Goa's Liberation movement, which has been sent by the Education Department to educations institutions to be shown on Sunday (Liberation Day) to the students, has drawn flak from some academic bodies. The Diocesan Society of education and Diocesan Service Centre alleged that the contents of the VCD, which recorded the Liberation movement is highly communal and appears to be aimed at fanning communal hatred and drive a wedge among the communities of Goa. (WE-GT) TRAGIC END TO FREEDOM FIGHTERS: Families of two freedom fighters from Canacona were cast in a pall of gloom on the eve of Liberation Day. While freedom fighter Devidas alias Vishnu Pai of Chavdi expired at GP Hospital in Ghaziabad on 15 December under mysterious circumstances, the body of his friend Laximan Jiva Bhagat, also a freedom fighter of Kumegal, Poinguinim, was found in Itarsi, Madhya Pradesh. They were both 75 and had left Canacona on 10 December and booked accommodation at Goa Sadan but none of them managed to report there. (WE-GT) GOA'S RURAL AREAS A NEGLECTED LOT: Governor SC Jamir on December 18 made an impassioned plea to Goa's political leadership to accord topmost priority for the development of the villages and ensure that the standard of living in the rural areas are brought on par with semi-urban areas. You cannot claim that Goa is an advanced State if the rural areas lack roads, health care, social welfare, etc, he said at a meeting held by Navelim Constituency Citizens Committee, and called for evolving a planning system whereby enough attention is paid to village development. (H) INSUFFICIENT STAFF: Shortage of medical staff, lackadaisical attitude of the authorities, lack of proper facilities at different health centres has forced many rural people to face innumerable hardships pertaining to primary healthcare. Due to lack of facilities at Sanguem primary health centre and negligent attitude of the doctors, hundreds of patients from Verlem to Barabomi are forced to dance to the tune of the medical staff there or face unexpected destiny. (Pio Esteves in NT) JAIL TALES: A day at Aguada Jail, prisoners say, is the closest you can get to hell particularly if the electricity shuts off, a common occurrence. Being stuck in the dungeons of Aguada without ample ventilation and no electricity is worse than torture aggravated by the fact that the prison depends on a well for water. (Reuven Proenca in WE-GT) GONSALVES OPPOSES HOUSING SCHEME: Victor Gonsalves, ex-MLA of Santa Cruz constituency, has strongly objected to the permission/license issued for the proposed construction of the Group Housing Scheme by Hara Housing and Land Development Co Ltd in plot bearing Survey No.540/2 and 541/4 near Four Pillars, Santa Cruz. (WE-GT) 'BRIDGE PARTY' FOR CRICKET TEAM: The Goa Pradesh Youth Congress wants to emulate Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar in organising bridge party. If Parrikar played host to the IFFI party on the Corjuem bridge, the GPYC has sought permission for holding a grand party for the Indian cricket team for three days, beginning from January 16, 2005. The Youth Congress would not mind if permission is granted on either the two bridges across Mandovi river, the Zuari bridge or the Corjuem bridge. (H) BURN INJURY VICTIMS SUCCUMB: Two women, Jarina Kale (18) from Chandor and Shabnam Shaikh (37) from Davorlim, who had sustained burn injuries while cooking food in two separate incidents in the jurisdiction of the Maina-Curtorim police station succumbed to their injuries at the Goa Medical College at
[Goanet]PORBIM!
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[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Dec 19, 2004!
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Re: [Goanet] Goa and migrants
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## --- Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santoshi, I hope injecting those lethals is not your part time. Xacuti, No. For that we have a full time Agente Monteiro. He got a lot of business from pro-life Boosh when he was part time Governador of Texas. Macau does not manufacture, coffins made from pau da rosa come from China. But Macau is Chinese, init? Macau does illegal smuggling of Chinese cardboard coffins, init? Are you involved in that negocio? So you say that bharat was legal when Albuquerque arrived íllegaly'. Albuquerque was an illegal alien on Bharati soil. Branson has not arrived yet, no space for him to land! Macau will be Branson's Virgin Macau very soon. You better think about shifting your operation to Madkai with a Bharati passport. Cheers, Santosh
