[Goanet-news]23 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 23, 2004 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Jednam tujem kop bhoron vot'ta, dusream tthaim vantt, pirddear korinaka!) (When your cup overflows, share it, don't waste it.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] EVEN A SLIGHT DISTORTION OF HISTORY NOT RIGHT: JAMIR: The Goa Governor SC Jamir has cautioned against even a slight distortion of history while making any film or VCD on any issue of national importance. Reacting to a series of reports on the controversial VCD on Goa's liberation struggle, the Governor told Gomantak Times in an exclusive chat, I would like to know the details of all those who made the film or were associated with it in any capacity were associated with it in any capacity. (GT) NOTHING OBJECTIONABLE: KARMALI: Even as the Catholic clergy and the opposition has reacted sharply to the controversial CD titled Goa ka swadhinta sangram, a member of the script committee of the film and freedom fighter Nagesh Karmali has vouched for the authenticity of its contents and have rubbished the objections.The script had been vetted by noted historians and people drawn from all walks of life which included some journalists, he said. (GT) CHURCH STUDYING THE DOCUMENTARY: The controversial film on Goa's Liberation struggle, which was circulated to educational institutions to be shown on Sunday, is being studied by various organs of the Church in Panaji. (GT) FR OLAVO PEREIRA PASSES AWAY: Fr Olavo Velho Pereira, Director of Diocesan Centre for Social Communications Media passed way yesterday evening after a terminal illness. He had undergone the fourth chemotherapy session only a few days back as he was suffering from cancer. He was 55 and was ordained priest on 27 April 1975. For the past few months, he had been staying at the Convent of St John of God at Old Goa with his sister who is a nun. His death has cast a spell of gloom among Church leaders and others. The funeral cortege will leave from his residence to the Holy Trinity Church, Benaulim, at 3.30 pm. (GT) GARBAGE PANEL CHIEF QUITS: Manohar Adpaikar, the PMC councillor, has resigned from the post of chairman of Garbage Management Committee and Committee for Legal Matters. In his letter of resignation, Advocate Adpaikar stated that he was not taken into confidence nor the decisions taken by the respective committee were implemented. (H) 50% OF GOA URBANISED: CM: The chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, stated that almost 50 per cent of Goa had been urbanized, while another 20 per cent of the State was semi-urban. Nevertheless, he said it was the duty of the government to take development of urban areas still further that too along with rural areas. (NT) FEASIBILITY REPORT ON MOPA AIRPORT: The techno-economic feasibility study for the Mopa international airport is all set to kickstart in January 2005. According to official sources, the study will be conducted by the International Civil Aviation Organisation from Montreal, Canada. (H) GOA PROHIBITS SALE, DISTRIBUTION OF TOBACCO: The Government of Goa has notified two orders and four notifications on prohibition of use, sale or distribution of tobacco and tobacco related articles in the State. (GT) ARCHBISHOP TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AT OLD GOA: Archbishop-Patriarch Felipe Neri Ferrao will lead the Catholic community in Goa in ushering in Christmas at the midnight Eucharistic celebrations in the pandal outside the Bom Jesus Basilica at Old Goa on December 24. (H) NON-GOANS TO PAY FOR TREATMENT AT GMC: CM: Patients coming from outside the State will be charged for treatment at Goa Medical College, Hospital, Bambolim, when the universal medical insurance scheme comes into effect, the Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said on December 22. (H) ESI HOSPITAL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY: PARRIKAR: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, stated that the State pays Rs.10 crore as premium to Employees' State Insurance Hospital and it receives only Rs.4 crore in return. Mr Parrikar alleged that the ESI Hospital has not been functioning properly as various benefits from the hospital have not been reaching the concerned employees. (NT) BODY OF GIRL RECOVERED: The Mormugao police on Sunday recovered the body of 17-year-old girl who committed suicide by setting herself ablaze at a lonely place at Bharatline, Bogda in Vasco. According to the police, the girl was mentally disturbed since birth. She had left her house on Saturday night carrying a tin of kerosene and a matchbox. (NT) WORKSHOP ON ACTING AND CAMERA MEDIA: Filmcraft Academy will
[Goanet]Distortion of History by the Goa Education Department
- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- --- Distortion of History --- This is with reference to the editorial dated December 22 on your daily. I am glad to see that you have commented editorially on the interference in our educational system by the Government of Goa. The recent distribution of a VCD to all the schools in Goa purporting to contain information about the liberation of Goa is a gross misuse of authority by the Department of Education. The very fact that it has ordered the film to be shown in all the schools, and that it has asked each school to submit a compliance report is reprehensible. The Department of Education does not have any right to compel any school to show any film produced or sponsored by it. The film itself is a rather crude attempt to sow dissension among the different religious communities in Goa. It begins by (falsely) depicting colonialism as an attempt by the Portuguese to impose Christianity on the local people. By implication, the film asserts that the fight against colonialism was (and is) a fight against Christianity. This is a gross distortion of history. The British, the Dutch and even the Danes attempted to conquer India primarily for economic reasons. That they were Christians is only incidental to their main purpose. Colonialism is rightly considered to be unjust, and the fight against colonialism was necessary; but to equate political colonialism with religious oppression is to falsify the true nature of colonialism. The film, however, is not an objective historical depiction of the freedom movement. It is a crude, ham-handed propaganda tool which attempts to poison the minds of our children and create in them communal hatred and intolerance. The attempt of the Department of Education to force-feed the schools with this propaganda material needs to be strongly condemned. I do hope that the school authorities will refuse to show this film in their institutions. Averthanus L. D'Souza, Dona Paula in a letter to the Editor -- HERALD 23/12/04 page 6 -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
[Goanet]Woes of Junior Advocates in Goa
- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- -- Woes of Junior Advocates -- Every year a large number of students pass out as Law Gradates after completing 5 years professional studies, obtain Sanad, which is a prerequisite for practicing Law practice, and join a senior advocate as a junior. These junior advocates carry out various types of assignments, such as preparing case file, finding case law, drafting suits, computer typing of legal documents etc. Because of the practical training that these young lawyers receive in the course of their studies they are able to handle these responsibilities with nominal guidance from the senior advocates, depending on the nature of the subject being handled. With computerisation, the contribution that the junior advocate makes to the successful practice of the Senior Advocate is immense. Whether, it is for drafting of documents, searching for case law or for making appearance before the judicial authorities. However, the sad part is that the junior advocates do not get any regular remuneration from the Senior Advocate on the plea that they are still learning the profession. In this manner, Junior Advocates work and slog in many cases from morning till late in the night, with only some relaxation in working hours on Sundays and holidays. It is common for a senior advocate to have 3 to 4 such juniors. And while they themselves have well paid practice and generally do very well for themselves, they get away without having to pay any regular remuneration to the juniors. I would suggest to the Government of Goa to carry out a quick study of on the service conditions of the junior advocates and fix some minimum monthly remuneration for the junior advocates working with senior advocates, as it is done for the employees of various Industrial segments. Since, without such intervention this exploitation by white collared gentry's of white collared junior advocates will continue. Suresh R. Lotlikar, Alto Porvorim in a letter to the Editor -- HERALD 23/12/04 page 6 -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
[Goanet]Local panch Socorro Braganza assaulted at Verna
the news, VERNA TENSE: Tension is brewing in Verna after a group of locals and migrants clashed at Cumborta ward on December 15 night. Locals gathered in large numbers last night after news spread that migrant labourers assaulted local panch Socorro Braganza. (H) The above news from 17 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS, makes disturbing reading.It's a repeat of what's going on in mumbai. Now the migrants are MORE in number than LOCALS in mumbai, 'THEY'(migrants) are calling the shots as they have 'voting number majority', so the politicians listen to them. A time will come when Goa will also face this 'situation'. WAKE UP GOA,Do something,before it's too late.Safeguard your heritage/culture/rights. v.f. __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]23 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 23, 2004 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Jednam tujem kop bhoron vot'ta, dusream tthaim vantt, pirddear korinaka!) (When your cup overflows, share it, don't waste it.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] EVEN A SLIGHT DISTORTION OF HISTORY NOT RIGHT: JAMIR: The Goa Governor SC Jamir has cautioned against even a slight distortion of history while making any film or VCD on any issue of national importance. Reacting to a series of reports on the controversial VCD on Goa's liberation struggle, the Governor told Gomantak Times in an exclusive chat, I would like to know the details of all those who made the film or were associated with it in any capacity were associated with it in any capacity. (GT) NOTHING OBJECTIONABLE: KARMALI: Even as the Catholic clergy and the opposition has reacted sharply to the controversial CD titled Goa ka swadhinta sangram, a member of the script committee of the film and freedom fighter Nagesh Karmali has vouched for the authenticity of its contents and have rubbished the objections.The script had been vetted by noted historians and people drawn from all walks of life which included some journalists, he said. (GT) CHURCH STUDYING THE DOCUMENTARY: The controversial film on Goa's Liberation struggle, which was circulated to educational institutions to be shown on Sunday, is being studied by various organs of the Church in Panaji. (GT) FR OLAVO PEREIRA PASSES AWAY: Fr Olavo Velho Pereira, Director of Diocesan Centre for Social Communications Media passed way yesterday evening after a terminal illness. He had undergone the fourth chemotherapy session only a few days back as he was suffering from cancer. He was 55 and was ordained priest on 27 April 1975. For the past few months, he had been staying at the Convent of St John of God at Old Goa with his sister who is a nun. His death has cast a spell of gloom among Church leaders and others. The funeral cortege will leave from his residence to the Holy Trinity Church, Benaulim, at 3.30 pm. (GT) GARBAGE PANEL CHIEF QUITS: Manohar Adpaikar, the PMC councillor, has resigned from the post of chairman of Garbage Management Committee and Committee for Legal Matters. In his letter of resignation, Advocate Adpaikar stated that he was not taken into confidence nor the decisions taken by the respective committee were implemented. (H) 50% OF GOA URBANISED: CM: The chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, stated that almost 50 per cent of Goa had been urbanized, while another 20 per cent of the State was semi-urban. Nevertheless, he said it was the duty of the government to take development of urban areas still further that too along with rural areas. (NT) FEASIBILITY REPORT ON MOPA AIRPORT: The techno-economic feasibility study for the Mopa international airport is all set to kickstart in January 2005. According to official sources, the study will be conducted by the International Civil Aviation Organisation from Montreal, Canada. (H) GOA PROHIBITS SALE, DISTRIBUTION OF TOBACCO: The Government of Goa has notified two orders and four notifications on prohibition of use, sale or distribution of tobacco and tobacco related articles in the State. (GT) ARCHBISHOP TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AT OLD GOA: Archbishop-Patriarch Felipe Neri Ferrao will lead the Catholic community in Goa in ushering in Christmas at the midnight Eucharistic celebrations in the pandal outside the Bom Jesus Basilica at Old Goa on December 24. (H) NON-GOANS TO PAY FOR TREATMENT AT GMC: CM: Patients coming from outside the State will be charged for treatment at Goa Medical College, Hospital, Bambolim, when the universal medical insurance scheme comes into effect, the Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said on December 22. (H) ESI HOSPITAL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY: PARRIKAR: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, stated that the State pays Rs.10 crore as premium to Employees' State Insurance Hospital and it receives only Rs.4 crore in return. Mr Parrikar alleged that the ESI Hospital has not been functioning properly as various benefits from the hospital have not been reaching the concerned employees. (NT) BODY OF GIRL RECOVERED: The Mormugao police on Sunday recovered the body of 17-year-old girl who committed suicide by setting herself ablaze at a lonely place at Bharatline, Bogda in Vasco. According to the police, the girl was mentally disturbed since birth. She had left her house on Saturday night carrying a tin of kerosene and a matchbox. (NT) WORKSHOP ON ACTING AND CAMERA MEDIA: Filmcraft Academy will conduct a one-day workshop on the topic Acting and Camera Media on 26 December at TB Cunha Hall, Panaji, between 10.30 am and 5 pm. Tel 9326-114693. (GT) 'DEGREE ALONE SHOULD NOT BE EQUATED WITH EDUCATION': The Minister for Tourism and Sports, Mr Mathany Saldanha, said that a degree alone should not be equated with education. Education should infuse us with values and abilities to differentiate the good from the bad and thus make positive
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[Goanet]Dabolim Airport Development?
Check out this story from Business Standard. Is the plan for Goa (Dabolim) feasible? === 23 airports to lease real estate Two consortiums led by ernst young and UTI bank formed to prescribe use Bhupesh Bhandari Bipin Chandran / New Delhi December 23, 2004 The government will allow commercial utilisation of 'city-facing' land at 23 non-metro airports to generate funds for their growth. For this purpose, the Airports Authority of India (AAI) has shortlisted two consortiums, one led by Ernst Young and the other by UTI Bank. The two consortiums are to come up with a detailed business plan for ten airports within the next four months, sources close to the development told Business Standard today. The AAI is expected to float another tender for the remaining 13 airports soon. The Ernst Young consortium, which includes IDBI Capital Markets, will study the Ahmedabad, Jaipur, Udaipur, Amritsar and Guwahati airports. The UTI Bank consortium will have consultancies like Chesterton Meghraj, Chesterton Petty, Landrum Brown and Meghraj Financial Services Ltd. This consortium will look at the Goa, Mangalore, Lucknow, Trivandrum and Madurai airports. Detailed plans for the Ahmedabad and Trivandrum airports will have to be submitted within a month as these are international airports. Although it is not clear how much money the government wants to mobilise through this exercise, Union Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel, has said that upgrading 23 airports could cost as much as Rs 5,000 crore. The consultants are required to figure out how the land owned by these airports could be commercially utilised. There are two components of the assignment: what can be done and how best to do it. In other words, we have to give the plans for the usage of the land and how to fund it, the sources said. Elaboratring the first component, the sources said various possibilities like setting up shopping malls, multiplexes and hotels could be explored. The consultants will also suggest whether the land-development exercise should be undertaken by the airports themselves in partnership with the private sector, or should the entire exercise be left to the private sector. Some of these airports are known to own 80-100 acres of land which can be developed for a range of commercial activities. Funding growth --- The two consortiums - one led by Ernst Young and the other by UTI Bank - are to come up with a detailed business plan for ten airports within the next four months The consultants are required to figure out how the land owned by the airports can be commercially utilised Various possibilities like setting up shopping malls, multiplexes and hotels can be explored The consultants will also suggest whether the land-development exercise should be undertaken by the airports themselves in partnership with the private sector, or should the entire exercise be left to the private sector The AAI is expected to float another tender for the remaining 13 airports soon ==
[Goanet]Tony's rants against the MMs - Demanding v/s Asking for Goan goodwill
Tony Martins wrote: My first mail to Margaret Mascarenhas was (regarding Naked Goa before it was published) whether she would be interested in editing my book Naked Goa for nothing more than a million thanks. She agreed. I made a trip to Tivim. Left the manuscript at her neighbours (she was attending a funeral) After that she tells me the cost for her editing services would be about Rs 5000/- (This despite the fact that I had duly informed her that I am a guy who is perennially broke.) And now when she talks of encouraging Goan writers, I can only wish her good luck. Cecil Pinto: I first encountered Margaret Mascarenhas on e-mail about three years back at the time she withdrew her column from Gomantak Times and outlined her reasons for doing so in a public posting. I disagreed with her and we had a long and protracted (and very hostile) private debate by e-mail, at the end of which we hated each others guts - but became friends. A few months later she invited me to attend a Creative Writing Workshop she was conducting at Fundacao Oriente. I attended this 4 day workshop and came away impressed by the way she facilitated a totally professional and efficient workshop, and illuminated us on many aspects of the Creative Writing process. In the years since I have interacted often with Margaret and quite regularly ask her for advice on my writing or certain intricacies of the English language and she has always obliged most gracefully, even at times when she was not keeping in good health. Agreed that Margaret is not the easiest person in the world to get along with but I can vouch for the fact that she does indeed do a lot towards encouraging Goan writers. And I know many other Goan writers who have benefited from her advice. Tony's peeve with her is obviously at a different level. Maybe Margaret got pissed off at Tony's the-world-should-support-and-encourage-me-even-if-I'm-nasty attitude. I don't blame her for that. - Tony Martins: For the cover Mario Miranda promised me the moon and the stars. What I got finally was a sweet advice. Why don't you check some good artists, I am moving to Brazil. Will be back only after three months. We certainly need to encourage Goan writers. Cecil Pinto: A year back I was assisting Jose Lourenco package his Information Cards box and we asked Mario Miranda to help us out with a few illustrations. Mario was so enthused by the project that he also read each and every of the Information Cards and gave us a lot of accurate information and advice, all for free. He even drew a few illustrations for the box and gave us blanket permission to use some other of his other existing cartoons - again all for free! Agreed Mario is a busy man and we had to make quite a few trips to his house before we got the illustrations. But then interacting with Mario is always a pleasure. I have encountered Mario in other matters too (regarding printing) and it has always been pleasant dealing with such a kind hearted 'gentleman'. By trying to use a public forum such as this to discredit Margaret Mascarenhas and Mario Miranda, Tony has proven that he does not know that dirty linen should not be washed in public. In future when he condemns any other person publicly I will ignore his shrill voice as it is obvious Tony carries some massive chip of disgruntlement on his shoulder and thinks he can take pot shots at public forums such as this. All he ends up doing is exposing his own weakness. Which also brings me to another point. Tony is not alone in this I-want-mine-free-and-fast-as-I-am-a-Goan attitude. Remo must play free for the fundraising concert for my book. Margaret must edit it free. Mario must illustrate it immediately. Why? Because I am a fellow Goan. Bah! If someone decides to give his/her services free for a good cause then well and good, but if someone refuses we have no right to condemn that person. Everyone has to make a living. Not just you. Of recent I hear many Goan writers wailing that they get no encouragement and support from fellow Goans. Build a better mousetrap my friend and the world, not just Goans, will beat a path to your doorstep. Don't demand that they have to support you. Nobody owes you a living. I have a copy of Silviano Barbosa's book The Sixth Night but have not yet found time to read it. My wife Beatrice though picked it up and started reading it just out of curiosity. She soon got quite engrossed in the story and is nearly halfway through the book. Beatrice says that Silviano has painted a credible picture of the Goa of old in a captivating story. I'm getting quite jealous that she keeps raving about the language and story and information in the book to me all the while *chuckle*. Hello! I'm your husband. I write too you know. How come you never rave about my writing? Huh? My prediction, from just observing these reactions, is that Silviano's book will outsell all his expectations. I have met him in
[Goanet]The Controversial film on the Indian Invasion
This is the limit . If this film is allowed to circulate , it will poison the minds of the new generation. Does Herr Parrikar know what he is doing ? This vividly reminds me of Nazi propaganda against the Jews of Germany . Does Parrikar want Genocide ? Its high time we take desperate measures to highlight this desperate situation maybe Guardian Angel Alemao could organise a public BURNING of these cassettes. Its high time we called the bluff . regards Dominic On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:36:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goanet-
[Goanet]Re:A Critique of the Mashelkar Paradigm
Hiring out CSIR laboratories to MNCs --- the Mashelkar paradigm ---= may help the CSIR generate some cash; in the long term it is helping MNCs de=velop their next generation of products for the global market. It will no= t help the Indian economy or the Indian industry, the primary purpose for = which CSIR was set up. The author rejects market forces in the development of technology but places touching faith in the state for this purpose (or at least in establishing the scientific infrastructure)! Let's get real!
[Goanet]Re: Sea Harrier crash lands at the Naval air station at DABOLIM AIRPORT
Further to my earlier posting, the above caused me to ponder awhile on the maintenance issues of the aircraft, apart from regular maintenance that I'm sure the aircraft are subject to. ... I wonder if the Indian Navy has indeed carried out therecommended modifications (if any) to the aircraft as proposed by any emergency repair bulletins or heeded to warnings issued after similar accidents in the UK? [Gabriel de Figueiredo Dec 20] One key implication of this, which seems to have been missed so far, may be the quality and intensity of the FLIGHT TRAINING PROGRAM conducted by the Navy at Dabolim. The crashes of the Sea Harrier experienced by the Indian Navy may reflect at least to some extent on the flight training imparted at Dabolim and elsewhere. This in turn will affect the Navy's willingness to relocate such flight training to places like Seabird and accept joint control over Dabolim or whatever.
[Goanet]HAPPY CHRISTMAS
All Goa Netters WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR 2005 Jerry Fernandes _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]RIBANDAR CHURCH MOLESTATION CASE
This is directed specifically towards the participants of this exchange on the subject issue. At the outset this appeared to be news about a social and/or religious issueThe facts of the case (from one perspective) have been repeated a number of times. If any party is interested in keeping Goanetters abreast of the case in question - specifics about a change in the status of the case, please feel free to post the same to Goanet. If any party's only intent is to play a game of one-upmanship over the other or make further allegations and/or insinuations against another party, please do it somewhere else. This is a polite request. Thank you for your attention. Goanet Admin
[Goanet]IFFI and health care experiences of a Goan medical doctor based in NYC
GL responds: Is IFFI of three weeks ago responsible for the unimpressive health care advances in Goa for the last ten years? Without IFFI, Goa would have no medical advances and also no IFFI. Perhaps more of the same of what it has been happening for the last forty years. IFFI is a convenient scapegoat for those Bureaucrats, most of whom are our ganv-bhavs and ganv-bhoinis, that DON'T WANT TO WORK HARD THEMSELVES to improve Goa. After all we are all so busy whining about IFFI, where is the time to be productive (before or after IFFI)? The NYC doctor will tell you that on the whole, the healthcare in government hospitals in NYC is also unimpressive. Their answer was (to get impressive healthcare) in NYC was to encourage private health care (and education) and let the consumer drive the quality and advances of healthcare. Samir Kelekar: Here are experiences of a Goan medical doctor based in NYC, someone who was visiting Goa during IFFI times, and who with all the idiosyncancies loves Goa very much!! Goan Doctor in New York City: was unimpressed with healthcare advances in goa. It seems as if nothing has moved in last ten yrs. Bureaucracy is mind boggling. Here is something funny I wanted to tell you. I was planning on seeing the marathi movie Shwaas hich was being screened at IFFI and had great reviews. The movie was supposed to be screened at 6 pm so I enquired about getting the tickets, and was told that I have to get it from ticket booth at miramar! (screening was at INOX GMC), OK, do you think I could have made it to the movie after buying ticket at miramar- absolutely not, because the ticket booth was to open at 6 pm and the traffic was diverted via Saint Inez.
[Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE: CHILDREN'S COURT TO PRONOUNCE ORDER TOMMORROW
The Children's Court headed by South Goa District Judge A.D.Salkar is expected to pronounce its order on 24th December on the maintainability of the criminal complaint filed by Mr. Anthony Frois uncle of the minor girl allegedly molested by Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues. orders. Dec 24th will coincidentally be a year when before the X'mas midnight mass Fr. Newton Rodrigues allegedly took the 13-year-old Ribandar girl to a room in the church on the pretext of taking confession and molested her. The complaint, which is the first of its kind before the recently constituted Children's court, has been filed by Mr. Frois against the Parish Priest in view of the police dragging its feet in filing the charge sheet against the accused priest. Fr. Newton Rodrigues is the first Roman Catholic Priest in Goa against whom the police have registered an F.I.R for an offence of molestation. The Ribandar Church molestation case was also one of the bone of contentions in the recent row between Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and former DGP Mr. Amod Kanth with the DGP refusing to relent to political pressures not to charge sheet the Parish priest. The DGP had reportedly taken a very firm stand that nobody is above the law. A contempt of Court petition filed against Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza for not complying with her statement is already pending before the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court.
[Goanet]U.S. firm advises, Goenkars stay out of Iraq.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1270951.htm Last Update: Thursday, December 23, 2004. 9:14am (AEDT) US transport company pulls out of Iraq A large American transport company has become the first contractor to pull out of Iraq because of the continuing violence. US officials say Contrack International has cancelled a $500 million project to build roads, bridges, airport facilities and railways in Iraq and staff have already left the country. Instability and the anti-US insurgency have delayed a $25 billion, US-funded rebuilding program and forced more money to be diverted toward security.
[Goanet]Sad demise Fr Olav Velho Pereira - DCSM
Diocesan Centre for Social Communications Media of the Archdiocese of Goa Daman Fr Olavo Velho Pereira expired at the CMM Polyclinic Panaji this evening 22/12/2004 at around 200O hrs IST. Though ailing for some time stricken with cancer Fr Pereira was undergoing chemotherapy but took active part in the Exposition of the sacred relics of St Francis Xavier presently underway at the Se Cathedral Old Goa, from 21 November, 2004 to 2nd January 2005, by heading the Communications Media Centre at Old Goa. According to Fr Athaide of the Archbishops Palace at Altinho who spoke via telephone + 91 832 2223353 who confirmed the sad news to this writer at 2130 hrs IST today, the funeral will be held at Holy Trinity Church Benaulim the native place of Fr Velho Pereira at 1500 hrs tommorow 23/12/2004 GODFREY J I GONSALVES Borda Margao Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
[Goanet]NEWS: Goa MP's son shot at (Hindustan Times)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_1163760,001500210002.htm See all stories on this topic: http://news.google.com/news?ie=utf8oe=utf8persist=1num=30hl=enclient=googlencl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_1163760,001500210002.htm [Another version, with some odd details; contrasts from what appeared in the local newspapers -FN] Goa MP's son shot at HT Correspondent Indore, December 21 GOA MP Churchill Alemao's son Saviyo and his friend Uri, both hailing from Goa, were shot at after a minor altercation with the accused inside the lift of the multistoried building, Jhabua Towers, this evening. The bullet missed both of them. The accused, Rohit Verma, a stockbroker by profession, has been arrested and charged with attempted murder. According to information, the incident occurred at around 7.30 pm, when Saviyo and his friend Uri, who are learning to be pilots at the local flying club, had come to visit their friend at Jhabua Towers. While coming down, the lift stopped at the seventh floor and Rohit Verma, who lives in Jhabua Towers, stepped in. Music was being played over the speaker in the lift and the two young boys (both in their early twenties) were tapping to the tune. Rohit, who is also in his mid-twenties, objected to their tapping and told them to stop, saying that the lift was weak and it would fall down. The Goans refused and countered by telling him to stop the background music, and added that they would continue their dance till then. The three of them had a heated exchange while the lift came to the ground floor.
[Goanet]Noman Konkani Palkachea Razamchea Raza-nk (A Tribute to the Kings of Kings of the Konkani Stage)
Wishing One and All MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR Cajetan Godinho salutes and pays rich tributes to The Kings of Kings of Konkani Stage Soglleank anvddeun KHUXEALBORIT NATALAM ANIK NOVEM VOROS Cajetan Godinho noman korta Konkani palkachea Razamchea Raza-nk Noman Konkani Palkachea Razamchea Raza-nk - A Tribute to the Kings of Kings of the Konkani Stage 1 Bhangaracho avaz tuzo, amkam portun kednanch aikonk meuchonam Suadik ghirest utramnim vinlelim tujim kantaram, kanar amchea sadounchinam Tum palkar ubo rautogoch, palkachi sobitai vhadtali, to dekhavo portun amkam dischonam Tuzo zago palkar sodanch rito urtolo, konnamcheanuch bhorunk zaumchonam. Tujim kantaram aikotoch, mortali amchea kannamchi tan anik bhuk Duensak sampdon mornan tuka ghiraslo, konkani mogiank zali dukh Donia sorguimchem raz taka favo kor, bhogsun kosli zalea zalear chukh Tum zaun aslo konkani palkacho Raza, Goemkaramchem sukh. Kantorist titloch ghirest partist, tiatr anik songit buroupi, tiatrist tum unche dorjecho Kednanch guntunk zaumchonam jhelo, tujea hozara voir kantaramcho Itiasant poili konkani cassette anik musical show dakoun, maan zodlo tuvem soglleamcho Alfred Rose, 'Melody King' kantoristamchea mollar, tum RAZA RAZAMCHO 2 Festachea disa ganvchea bhurgeamcho tiatr astalo, tum soiro kolakar koso, soglleamchea tiatranim nestalo Tiatr suro zalo khoro, pun soglo lok tujich vatt polleat rautalo Tujea fiat motoracho avaz aikotoch, feuneom ghalun, fogotteo laun tuka eukar ditalo Tujem ek comedy anik decent kantar aikotoch, soglo lok dadoxi zatalo Manuel Aguiar zalo 'M.Boyer', zodtogoch eka English film actorachem tuvem nanv Tuje tiatr pollounk lok uppotteo ghali, marun etale danv Porva kelinam tuje bolaikechi, mhattarponnar passun palkak veng marun raulo, xebaski dita tuka goemcho ganv Atamchea tiatristank tum zaun asa, ek vhodlem lissanv. Voznadik anik riti dekhivont tiatr 'Ekuch Rosto', 'Sounsar Sudorlo', molladik vaur tuzo Soglleamchea tonddar khelltat tuje suadik cant, toxoch ugddass eta Goemche convent, tujea kantaracho Huxear comedian, kantorist, partist, tiatrist tum soglleamchea mogacho M.Boyer tiatramchea mollar, tum khoddegant tiatr buroinar RAZA RAZAMCHO 3 Tatristamchem painnem, sobit Benaulim ganvant tum zolmoloPh.D. xinkop korun, sadem uloun, sadem nesson, sadeponnan tum jielo Zomnir tan stagir haddun, khelltiatrank tuvem atvoch rosto dakoilo Tuvem palkar kelelim tore torechim vizmitam polloun, konkani sounsar dipkoulo. Kitlem ghirest tujem buroup, konnuch amkam palkar disonk nam, tea panvdear paulolo Khoreanuch tum Goemcho 'Shakespeare', dusro Rosario amkam kuimsor meutolo Cancer piddechea ujeant lastanam passun, tuvem tuzo vaur chalo dorlolo Anikui palkar zaitim noulam korunk, monant tum chintun aslolo Auchituch dori tuntli, tujea jivitacho 'Patang' varear ubonk laglolo 'Ekech Ratri', 'Ami Fator' zale, konkani palkacho buddhivont 'Surya', mornamchea doriant buddon, 'Uzvadd Paloulo' 'Thank You Doctor', tuzo molladik vaur sodanch amchea kallzant urtolo Rosario Rodrigues khelltiatristamchea mollar, tum RAZA RAZAMCHO 4 Bombaimchi Hindi film industry voir kadlea, Goemchea huxear muzgamnim Tannim kelolo molladik vaur, sangon khobar korunk zainam sade utramnim Tantlo famad musician Chris Perry, amchi Konkani bhas voir dovorlea, music buroun bhangarachea solphanim Aiz tum amche modem nam, tujem suadik music anik kantaram aikon, dukham bhortat dolleanim Kitle zannank tuvem tujea music anik kantaramnim, nachoile anik hanssoile Sopnant aslelea porim amkam, kednam kongotte anik kednaim, lisboa pavoile Songittachea sounsarant, tuvem zaite zannank nove nove roste dhakoile 16 vorsamchi divli asli, 'Bai Lornank' porzollit noketr korun, Konkani mogiank tumi dipkaile Zaite music director sangtat, tum mhun music director unche dorjecho Ek famad maestro mhunta, tum zaun aslo mhunon 'Maestro Maestromcho' Khoreanuch tum vortolo musician, soglea goemkaramche avddecho Chris Perry songittachea mollar, tum RAZA RAZAMCHO Boroupi/Written by: Cajetan Godinho soccer legend at Soor Grounds - Kuwait (c) www.goa-world.com 22/12/2004 www.goa-world.com/goa/tiatrtiatrist/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet]A Critique of the Mashelkar Paradigm
Scientific Capability And The Wealth Of Nations Prabir Purkayastha EVERY school of thought accepts that if a country wants to become a global player, Research and Development (RD) is vital. Copying, body shopping, selling other peoples products and technology can work for some time. But not for long. The ability to develop technology innovations continuously is what distinguishes technology leaders from followers. This means the ability not merely to copy innovations done elsewhere but to also to develop the next generation of technology. Just following behind the Joneses may have worked in a world where technology remained relatively stable. But not today, where computational power of a chip doubles every 18 months. SCIENTIFIC CAPABILITY Scientific capability and technology innovations are therefore the prerequisites to a countrys development. In a recent paper, David King The Scientific Impact of Nations, Nature, VOL 430, July 15, 2004) has plotted the scientific capability (citation index intensity) of a nation against the GDP intensity (per capita GDP) of 31 nations. The citation intensity is simply the number of such citations divided by the GDP of the countries. The wealth intensity of the countries is also a simple measurement: it is the per capita GDP of the country. It shows very clearly the importance of scientific capability for a nation: the citation intensity correlates very well with the wealth intensity of countries. More the citation intensity, wealthier the country. Of course, one can also argue that if a country is wealthy, it can devote more to research and therefore its citation index goes up. But if we look at the per capita GDP of many countries, for instance oil-producing countries, we will find that though their GDP is high, their scientific output is low. If we exclude the countries that are rich due to some primary product or a finite natural resource like oil, then the driving factor for wealth of a country does emerge as its capability to produce scientific and technological innovation While how to measure scientific capability is still being debated, some indicators are agreed upon as a basis for some form of ranking. The most common ones are amount of research papers produced and how many times they are cited by other authors: the citation index of the papers. While the number of papers that a country produces, may provide an indication of the quantity of its output, the citation index is supposed to reflect its quality. It is true that a simple analysis based on just citations is open to various distortions papers in medicines are quoted more than papers in mathematics, papers in English are quoted more than in other languages, etc, nevertheless, the citation index does provide a rough and ready reckoner for quality of the research produced by a country. How does India fare on this measure of citation index and citation intensity? The good news is that India and also China are still in the league of countries with significant science and technology capability. The bad news is that our quality is well below its quantity. The citation rate per paper puts us in the 29th position, well below that of countries such as Luxemburg, Israel, Singapore. For all publications in the time period 1997-2001, India had 2.13 per cent of all publications but a citation index of only 0.86 per cent. Countries at the top end have a reverse ratio; with a smaller number of papers, they have a higher citation index. CITATION INDEX Citation index is what King has used is one measure of scientific capability. There are others, which have been constructed. One of the better known one is the one by the Institute for Higher Education at Shanghai Jiao Tong University (SJTU) in China. SHTU recently carried out an exercise to rank the world's universities, using an index of five criteria: the number of people who won a Nobel Prize (or Fields medal, its equivalent in mathematics), the number of highly cited researchers, articles published by university staff in the leading science journals Science and Nature, the number of articles included in the Science Citation Index and Social Science Citation Index and the average academic output of a faculty member. One can question the weightage and the methodology: after all Nobel prizes are given long after the people have done their actual work. However, even if one takes the ranking, not at its face value but just an indicator of broad trends, the picture that emerges for India is not very flattering. Amongst the first 500 top universities in the world, India has only 3. Even worse, there are only 3 universities from India in the top 100 Asia/Pacific universities. In 2003, the three universities/institutes were Indian Institute of Sciences (IISc.), Bangalore, IIT Kharagpur and IIT Delhi; this year it is IISc and
[Goanet]Stamps, of Portuguese vintage
Mapusa's post office, shifted some time back to its new location across the road from its old structure, has had for some time now a good display of Portuguese-time stamps. These have been put up by a philatelic network in Mapusa -- sorry was a bit rushed, so didn't get all the details. If I recall right, one stamp-collecting veterans at Mapusa has been promoting the collection of stamps since our schooldays. That was eons ago. For more details, try contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
[Goanet]Seminar, Nov 2004 issue *Amchem Goem*
If you're interested in having a look at the Nov 2004 issue of the Delhi-based *Seminar* magazine, that focussed entirely on Goa, go to http://www.india-seminar.com/2004/543.htm Some interesting articles out there (even though one criticised the perspective... and the viewpoints excluded... in an earlier review). FN Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
Re: [Goanet]Augustine Church, Old Goa
- Original Message - From: sidh mendiratta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: [Goanet]Augustine Church, Old Goa Dear All Once more I send a cry for help to anyone who has any photograph of the Augustinian church and convent ruins at Old Goa, dating from pre-2000 times. Any other source of documentary information is also welcome. This is for my final-thesis work at the Faculdade de Arquitectura of the Porto University. Thanking you, Sidh Losa Mendiratta Dear Sidh, A colour picture of the Tower of St. Augustine (Old Goa) was the cover of GOA - the cultural organ of Casa de Goa (Lisbon) - II Series Nº 2, December 1996. Its author Dr. Francisco de Sa, usually residing in Lisbon, is presently absent for two or three months in India, but maybe you can obtain the picture from Casa de Goa. You can contact the Casa at [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone nr 21 393 0078. Good luck in your quest. Jorge
Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks
Hi Mervyn, Many thanks for info about odd restaurant practices in Dar. I was there, off and on, many years ago but missed the unusual opportunity to be able to impress anyone when I would have loved to! I also visited Bangalore twice, more recently, but hadn't experienced nor heard about variable restaurant prices aka Gabriel. When in India, I have invariably passed off, with an adapted/localised accent, as an Indian and have not had to pay for hotel stays, in foreign currency, even when this was the 'rule' for a while, and before plastic came into greater use. On indicating when booking, that I was from Goa (with address of course) I invariably had a feeling that the thought crossed some minds that these guys from Goa are a funny lot who only speak English. But I recall one case when pestered to change money by street urchins in Bombay. When I indicated with the single word that I was Indian the shrewed little geezers simply said no no sir you are foreign Indian. And of course, most taxi drivers, the world over, immediately know when to make an extra buck or two, except perhaps in Sydney, when on two occassions I was taken free, albeit on short journeys, by most friendly Indian drivers who wanted to discover from me if they would be better of in the UK. The Aussie dollar was especially weak at the time! Cornel - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo Cornel, There used to be a restaurant in Dar that had the same menu with different prices. The menu given to the male had the prices they would charge. The menu given to the female had the same items with twice the prices. Needless to say, some of my dates got really impressed when taken for dinner there :-)
[Goanet]Words, words, words and actions!
Margaret Mascarenhas, author of the novel 'Skin', came in to release Barbosa's novel, and stressed the need to promote Goan writing. My first mail to Margaret Mascarenhas was (regarding Naked Goa before it was published) whether she would be interested in editing my book Naked Goa for nothing more than a million thanks. She agreed. I made a trip to Tivim. Left the manuscript at her neighbours (she was attending a funeral) After that she tells me the cost for her editing services would be about Rs 5000/- (This despite the fact that I had duly informed her that I am a guy who is perennially broke.) And now when she talks of encouraging Goan writers, I can only wish her good luck. For the cover Mario Miranda promised me the moon and the stars. What I got finally was a sweet advice. Why don't you check some good artists, I am moving to Brazil. Will be back only after three months. We certainly need to encourage Goan writers. Cheers!! Tony Martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Congrats... Valentine de Souza
Cambridge Fellowship for Sacred Heart (Santa Cruz) Parishioner Valentine de Souza, Editor of the Express Computer weekly newsmagazine, and a parishioner of Sacred Heart (Santa Cruz) has been awarded the prestigious Wolfson College Press Fellowship for 2004-05. He will shortly be leaving for Cambridge, UK, where he will pursue a research project on the Role of the Media in Bridging the Digital Divide. The Fellowship was awarded under the Chevening Scholarship scheme of the British Council. The term Digital Divide refers to the gap that exists between people who can afford and are capable of using modern information technology (including computers and the Internet), and those who are unable to do so because they lack sufficient finance and/or education. The field of Information and Communications Technology for Development (ICT4D) studies this phenomenon, and millions of dollars are spent every year on projects attempting to bridge the digital divide and bring the benefits of the information technology revolution to the have-nots. Through his research, Valentine de Souza is endeavouring to prepare a blueprint for a website or journal or nodal agency that will serve as a central repository for information on all ICT4D projects worldwide and track their progress. Mr de Souza had earlier been awarded the Madhu Valluri Memorial Foundation IT Journalist of the Year award for 2002. Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
[Goanet]+RIP Fr Olavo Velho Pereira
Just heard from a young priest-friend Fr Anthony that Fr Olavo Velho Pereira, the spokesperson of the Church in Goa, who was fighting a battle against cancer, died this evening at around 8 pm. In the course of my work, I've interacted with Velho Pereira, and he came across as a polite priest and a humble human being. To know more about him, check http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=enq=Olavo+Velho+Goameta= Just thought of sharing this news via Goanet. FN Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
[Goanet]Christmas Card.
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[Goanet]Better watch out
You better watch out, You better not cry, You better not Shout, I'm telling you why: Santa Claus is coming to town Can you hear the jingle of the bells? Yeah, Santa Claus has come to wish all a very merry Christmas! He has on his shoulders a bagful of good wishes for all and to spread the merriness of the season. Be a part of ho-ho-whole lotta fun at this festive season at the Crystal Focus Clubs FELIZE NATAL 2004 exclusive CHRISTMAS PARTY FOR CHILDREN aged 5 to 14 yrs on December 30, 2004 at Al-Shaab Leisure Park Hall, Kuwait from 4:30 pm onwards. For more details, please: Call us: 7903930 and 6888947 after 4 pm; Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our website: http://www.geocities.com/crystalfc_628/home.html Road Map to l-Shaab Leisure Park: http://www.shaabpark.com/roadmap/getintouch.html _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Niallunk - 22nd Dec 2004
Niallunk Ietanam mekhllea hathanim ailai Kainch gheun ieunk naim Vetanam mekhllea hathanim vetoloi Kainch gheun vechonaim Zalear dhan-dhovlot (wealth) ekttavpachi Kiteak mhonn tum komi korinaim ? Daniel F. de Souza Vasku, Goem 22nd Dec 2004.
Re: [Goanet]Re: 67 MINUTES OF GOA'S HISTORY:Admiral Thimmayya
--- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOA UNDER BIJAPUR: Yusuf Adil Shah brought Goa into the Kingdom of Bijapur. He was a powerful ruler. He encouraged agriculture , art and literature. He was TOLERANT to all religions.Under him, Hindus were given religious freedom. Some of them were given high civil and military posts. Yusuf Adil Shah developed the PORT OF GOA by constructing a main road from the jetty of River Mandovi at OLD GOA right up to the PALACE of Adil Shah [present Secretariat] for trade and commerce. Hmmm... So, am I right to believe that the Patto bridge was built by Adil Shah and not by the Portuguese? Cheers, Gabriel. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]For The Lighter Side !
This is beautiful... I had forwarded it to Goanet last Dec. thought would be great to share again this Christmas for those who missed hAVE a nICE hOLIDAY sEASON!! Seb ~~ The Tablecloth The brand new pastor and his wife, newly assigned to their first ministry, to reopen a church in suburban Brooklyn, arrived in early October excited about their opportunities. When they saw their church, it was very run down and needed much work. They set a goal to have everything done in time to have their first service on Christmas Eve. They worked hard, repairing pews, plastering walls, painting, etc. and on Dec 18 were ahead of schedule and just about finished. On Dec 19 a terrible tempest - a driving rainstorm - hit the area and lasted for two days. On the 21st, the pastor went over to the church. His heart sank when he saw that the roof had leaked, causing a large area of plaster about 20 feet by 8 feet to fall off the front wall of the sanctuary just behind the pulpit, beginning about head high. The pastor cleaned up the mess on the floor, and not knowing what else to do but postpone the Christmas Eve service, headed home. On the way he noticed that a local business was having a flea market type sale for charity so he stopped in. One of the items was a beautiful, handmade, ivory colored, crocheted tablecloth with exquisite work, fine colors and a Cross embroidered right in the center. It was just the right size to cover up the hole in the front wall. He bought it and headed back to the church. By this time it had started to snow. An older woman running from the opposite direction was trying to catch the bus. She missed it. The pastor invited her to wait in the warm church for the next bus 45 minutes later. She sat in a pew and paid no attention to the pastor while he got a ladder, hangers, etc., to put up the tablecloth as a wall tapestry. The pastor could hardly believe how beautiful it looked and it covered up the entire required area. Then he noticed the woman walking down the center aisle. Her face was like a sheet. Pastor, she asked, where did you get that tablecloth? The pastor explained. The woman asked him to check the lower right corner to see if the initials, EBG were crocheted into it there. They were. These were the initials of the woman, and she had made this tablecloth 35 years before, in Austria. The woman could hardly believe it as the pastor told how he had just gotten the Tablecloth.. The woman explained that before the war she and her husband were well-to-do people in Austria. When the Nazis came, she was forced to leave. Her husband was going to follow her the next week. She was captured, sent to prison and never saw her husband or her home again. The pastor wanted to give her the tablecloth; but she made the pastor keep it for the church. The pastor insisted on driving her home, that was the least he could do. She lived on the other side of Staten Island and was only in Brooklyn for the day for a housecleaning job. What a wonderful service they had on Christmas Eve. The church was almost full. The music and the spirit were great.. At the end of the service, the pastor and his wife greeted everyone at the door and many said that they would return. One older man, whom the pastor recognized from the neighborhood, continued to sit in one of the pews and stare, and the pastor wondered why he wasn't leaving. The man asked him where he got the tablecloth on the front wall because it was identical to one that his wife had made years ago when they lived in Austria before the war and how could there be two tablecloths so much alike? He told the pastor how the Nazis came, how he forced his wife to flee for her safety, and he was supposed to follow her, but he was arrested and put in a prison. He never saw his wife or his home again all the 35 years in between. The pastor asked him if he would allow him to take him for a little ride. They drove to Staten Island and to the same house where the pastor had taken the woman three days earlier. He helped the man climb the three flights of stairs to the woman's apartment, knocked on the door and he saw the greatest Christmas reunion he could ever imagine. True Story - by Pastor Rob Reid Who says God does not work in mysterious ways. I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for you today. To guide you and protect you as you go along your way His love is always with you, His promises are true, And when we give Him all our cares you know He will see us through. So when the road you're traveling on seems difficult at best, Just remember I'm here praying, and God will do the rest. Pass this on to those you want God to bless, and don't forget to send it back to the one who asked God to bless you first.
Re: [Goanet]IFFI and health care experiences of a Goan medical doctor based in NYC
Here is experiences of a Goan medical doctor based in NYC, someone who with all the idiosyncancies loves Goa very much!! was unimpressed with healthcare advances in goa. It seems as if nothing has moved in last ten yrs. Bureaucracy is mind boggling. Here is something funny I wanted to tell you. I was planning on seeing the marathi movie Shwaas which was being screened at IFFI and had great reviews. The movie was supposed to be screened at 6 pm so I enquired about getting the tickets, and was told that I have to get it from ticket booth at miramar! (screening was at INOX GMC), OK, do you think I could have made it to the movie after buying ticket at miramar- absolutely not, because the ticket booth was to open at 6 pm and the traffic was diverted via Saint Inez. And someone said IFFI was a big success? regards, Samir Kelekar Samir, In the kingdom of the Blind. Men with one eye is the King:-) It all depends on: Who all have been all over Goa, and who all that have never left Panjim. Rgds/Seb
[Goanet]Re: [Goanet-news]NEWS: Church flays film on Goa liberation (Indian Exp ress)
has a portugeese born person and living in the usa i have the most love for all the people of goa diu and damao and feel our connection portugeese rule was not all bad feliz natal de joaquim pedro
[Goanet]A rich experience,indeed /Melinda Coutinho Powell
Hi all, Thanks for the good wishes from different parts of the globe for our Goanet getogether.As Floriano puts it It was a rich experience ,indeed. I found it quite exciting to match people and their postings.It was good interacting with fellow netters in a relaxed atmosphere.My appeal is to the women on goanet make your presence felt on goanet and turn up at the next getogether,so that we can match,if not outnumber the guys We have on Goanet many versatile,talented,brilliant,outstanding men and women and together we can channelise our energies to make Goa a better State.Let us begin the new year with hope and optimism. I wish everyone Seasons Greetings and may 2005 herald sensible debating,no name calling, peace and goodwill among goanetters. Viva Goanet. Melinda Coutinho Powell(absolutely no relation to Colin Powell)
[Goanet]Tribute to Juju, Musician.
Article in the Weekly Goan Observer (18th to 24th Dec 2004) Juju- Musician par excellence By: Daniel F. de Souza. Death is an uncertain certainty goes the age old maxim. As uncertain as when on 9th December whilst entertaining guests at a restaurant at Raia, Juju Fernandes, the versatile tenor saxophonist and a popular music director, breathed his last. His passing away has not only shocked the tiatrist fraternity across the length and breath of Goa, but the void created by his sudden death would be very hard to fill. As it is the ever expanding tiatrist fraternity is faced with the bleak prospects of finding an experienced air instrument player with their tribe decreasing, and little prospects of seeing the younger generation taking a fascination for blowing instruments, Juju's death has added further to their misery. Baptised as Jose A. Fernandes, this musician from Pedda Benaulim, the cradle of Konkani stage art and culture, was an established crooner in a local band AVC Pops before making his name as a full-fledged musician. He even had his own beat group under the name Hard Rocks. Inspired by his musician father who was a church choir master in Benaulim church, Juju too took a serious interest in learning blowing instruments. But, it was only after he joined the tiatr bandwagon as a music director did he come into limelight and was a much sought after musician for his exceptional skill and mastery with the tenor sax. Soft-spoken and well mannered with a smiling countenance, this tall and well-built bearded tenor saxophonist was liked by all among the tiatrist fraternity for his dedication towards music, down to earth professional approach and his human ways. Many professional artists whom GO spoke to said 'Juju was a thorough professional and a perfectionist to the core. He was a great showman who had the capacity to entertain the audience individually with his Tenor Sax and singing too.' Excellent Showman As we are in the midst of the Christmas season, the tiatr lovers will miss Juju all the more for his Christmas carols. He was the only music director who would not only play instrumental carols before the start of the tiatr, but would actually render a couple of carols with his beautiful voice from his chair in front of the stage. This was something very rare among the present set of tiatr musicians. Juju was one of the best showmen I have ever seen when playing the tenor sax for Konkani musical shows. He would suddenly leave his position and rhythmically sway his way to the centre of the stage gracefully playing the tenor sax alongside the soloist in his inimitable style to the utter surprise of the audience and the soloist too. This was his specialty and such a spontaneous action was well received not only but the audience but it would give an additional boost and confidence to the singer on stage. Juju produced his own audio album in 1998 titled 'Biradd'. Juju was the music director for Rose Ferns dramatic troupe for the last five seasons. Incidentally this season he had taken a break from the shows and it is understood Juju had engaged himself as a one-man band for the hotel industry along the South Goa Coast. Paying rich tributes to this tenor saxophonist this is what his colleagues on the Konkani stage had to say: Rose Ferns: With Juju's untimely death the Konkani stage has lost a talented and dedicated music director. He was not only talented but also very committed to his profession. He was a capable professional and could even carry the show on single handedly. He would always keep his word and was a perfectionist. He would take special care of young and upcoming artist, and was very particular about rehearsals. He would conduct separate music rehearsals with his band members. As the number of brass instrument musicians is steadily on the decline in recent years, his death is a great loss to the Konkani stage and Konkani music. Wilson Mazarello: I knew Juju for many years. As a human, he was very friendly and warm hearted, helpful in nature and had a great passion for music. He was the only band leader who would sing live before the commencement of the shows and entertain the audience in his own way. He paid a lot of emphasis on rehearsals and had a thorough professional approach towards them. His love for music and the Konkani stage was something great. With the present acute shortage of brass blowers his death has dealt a severe blow to the tiatrist fraternity. Felcy: Juju, besides being a thorough professional, was a very co-operative musician. He made us feel comfortable and confident while performing on stage. I will never forget how he came to my rescue in 1995 when I had staged my own drama. He saved me from serious trouble when at very short notice he provided the entire music for one of my shows when the original music director could not make it. We will miss him very much and especially at Christmas time for his carols and other songs too. He had a special
[Goanet]Bon Fest Natal
Dear Friends, We offer our sincere greetings on the eve of Christmas and New Year to all dear netters. Have a joyous Christmas season and may the Almighty's abundant blessings and His peace be yours at Christmas and always! Jesus came with a message of peace and love for humanity and dedicated His life for this mission. Many others were greatly influenced by His message, as is evident from various posts via your net. Let us continue our struggle for the betterment of mankind. We wish you all peaceful and violence-free year. Dorothy, Chris, Marshall n Francis Disclaimer : This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by any one who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that MOSt is unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of/over the contents of the information contained in e-mail transmission and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender and does not bind MOSt unless the sender does so expressly with due authority with MOSt. Before Opening any attachment please check them for viruses and defects.
[Goanet]RE: GOANETTERS GATHER IN PANJIM
Where are the photos? We poor souls out here like to see the longest grey beard -:)) Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ GOANETTERS GATHER IN PANJIM: Goanetters from various parts of the world had a friendly get-together at Clube Vasco da Gama in Panjim today (December 21) afternoon. Over 20 goanetters exchanged pleasantries, some reminisced about the past, meeting as they did after a long time, others for the first time saw what some of the goanet members looked like. Fred Noronha, Cecil Pinto, Vivian D'Souza (Socorro), Marina and Tony Correia Afonso (Benaulim), Silviano Barbosa (Toronto), Vincent D'Souza (Mangalore), Ana Maria Goswami, Heta Pandit, Vivek Menezes (Divar), Mario Fernandes (Divar), Melinda Coutinho Powell (Davorlim), Desmond Nazareth, Ramnath Pai Raikar (NT), Carlos D'Silva (UK), Mario Dias Fernandes (Calgary), Margaret Mascarenhas, Brian Pinto (Sydney), Floriano Lobo (Moira), Christina Pinto (Sydney), Eugene Correia (Toronto), Daniel D'Souza (Vasco), Joel, Constantino Xavier (Lisbon), Roland Martins and Miguel Braganza were among those who met for a chat. A well brought out and interesting novel, The Sixth Night written by Silviano C Barbosa, was released on the occasion at the hands of Margaret Mascarenhas. Valentino Fernandes' book How to be an Instant Goan (with cartoons by Alexyz) was also released informally by Tony Correia Afonso. (GoaNOW)
[Goanet]22 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS December 22, 2004. THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Tujim utram godd dovor, tuka ghoddiek magir tim khavunk poddot. (Keep your words sweet, you may have to eat them later.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'PARRIKAR IS MY LEADER': Setting aside all speculation about his resigning from the BJP-led Parrikar government, Town and Country Planning Minister Atanasio Monserrate said that he would continue to support the Chief Minister till the end of this term. After that who knows? Monserrate quipped. (GT) DESPICABLE FILM: The 68-minute-long docu-drama issued by the state Education Department for viewing by school students on Goa Liberation Day spills over with plenty of blood, gore, violence and 20-odd minutes dedicated exclusively to the Inquisition. All this while the Rane's Revolt gets about 2 minutes and the Pinto Revolution just lip service, literally. The film does not begin with the certificate issued by the Central Board of Film Certification but begins with about 20 minutes of the Portuguese invasion of Goa and the atrocities perpetrated on the Goan people. (GT) SHOCK AND ANGER: While the news of the content of the controversial film on Goa's liberation struggle has spread, it led to a feeling of shock and anger in various circles at the attempt to distort history and also prompted some to convene meetings to discuss the issue. (GT) TWO YOUTHS KILLED IN MISHAP: Ameya Prakash Phadte (21), and Saurabh Shekar Sawkar (20), were killed when Phadte lost control of his Yamaha motorcycle opposite the Kala Academy, at around 11.50 pm on December 21. The vehicle slammed into the median at a high speed when the youth were thrown off, before hitting a nearby electrical pole and then came to a stop almost 50 metres from the point of initial impact. (GT) CHURCHILL'S SON ESCAPES SHOOTING BID: Former Goa chief minister and Congress MP Churchill Alemao's son, Savio, had a narrow escape on December 21 when a person opened fire at him in Jhabua town near Indore following a minor scuffle, police said. The incident occurred in when Savio and his friend were returning in the lift from the eighth floor of Jhabua Tower and were enjoying music in the lift. One Rohit Verma, who joined them from the seventh floor, objected to their movements in the lift and told them to stand quietly. (H) SALCETE VILLAGERS SAY NO TO MOBILE TOWERS: On the occasion of the observance of 'National Consumer Rights Day' in Goa, Consumer Forum volunteers from Assolna, Betalbatim, Benaulim, Cansaulim, Cuncolim, Loutulim, Majorda, Navelim, Nuvem and Velim under the banner of Goa Civic and Consumer Action Network held an awareness action in Margao to highlight the consumer concerns about the installation of mobile towers in residential areas. The slogan of the action was if you do not respect our right to know, then we will enforce our right to say No!!! (GT) TEST TRIAL OF SKY BUS SUCCESSFUL: After a gap of two months, the test trial of the Konkan Railway Corporation's sky bus proved successful on December 21 in Margao when it moved at the speed of 10 kilometres per hour. Eight top officials of the KRC, including engineers and representatives of the Austria company, Elin Ebg, which has supplied motor for the sky bus, were also present during the test trail. MD of KRC, Mr B Rajaram, informed that the damaged bogies have been repaired and installed. All the mistakes traced in the sky bus mishap have been rectified, he added. (NT) OLD WOMAN ASSAULTED, ROBBED: Unknown persons on December 21 night entered the house of one Lucy Fernandes (80) of Bamanvada-Camurlim, assaulted her, tied her to the bed and robbed her of gold ornaments worth around Rs.30,000. Fernandes, who sustained head injuries, has been admitted to the GMC hospital at Bambolim. (GT) BODY RECOVERED FROM SEPTIC TANK: The Colva police recovered the body of one Carmelina Menezes (60) from a septic tank at Gomes vaddo, Majorda, on December 21. However, they could not throw any light whether there was any foul play. (H) SEX RATIO DECLINING IN GOA: Males in Goa outnumber females and hence the sex ratio in the State is declining. Interestingly, the females in rural South Goa outnumber the males due to outmigration of the males to the urban areas. The rural population of North Goa district is higher than its urban population, while the rural population of South Goa is lower than its urban population. These are the findings of the Directorate of Census Operations of Goa. (NT) GOA HAS 15,749 DISABLED: Goa has some 15,749 disabled persons which is approximately 1.17 per cent of its 13.4 lakh population, according to an analysis of the Census 2001 data done by MS Kulkarni, senior lecturer in demography at Goa Medical College's preventive and social medicine department. According to Kulkarni's analysis, presented at a symposium at a city hotel on December 21, the movement-impaired formed the single largest block accounting for over 31 per cent of the total disabled.
Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks
--- Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firstly, given the low margins (and I'm not justifying this) in India, a lot of over-charging does take place. Not just to visitors from abroad, but even to others. I routinely get overcharged while travelling in a rickshaw in Bangalore or Mumbai. Fred, the issue here was we were shown one set of menus with one set of prices, and when charged, we were charged a different higher price. It would have been OK *if* we were shown the higher prices at the very start, which is when we would have made up our minds whether to eat there or not. And it wasn't a Rs 20.00 a rice plate place either - a bit more upmarket than that. Incidentally, talking about luxuries, entertainment (including films) was long considered a luxury in India. Perhaps this tradition goes back to the 'fifties and 'sixties, when sufficient food was a luxury even for the middle-classes here. Here? Where? In India or in Goa? We're going completely off-track from the topic. I won't go further into details except to state that sufficient food for the common man in Goa was not a problem in the 50s, contrary to India's situation. Gabriel. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: [konkaniforum] Re: A Goan without ...... is a just next toimpossible.
Gilbert Lawrence wrote:- Hi, I have an idea of how to generate interest in Konkani - Romi script among our ganv-bhavs ani ganv-bhoinis. Have a borem vodlem celebration or natak in Hindi or Marathi or Kanada in Amchem Bangarachem Goem. Like IFFI, we will then wake up. But only to complain ani protest ani whine and be bent-out-of-shape (for the 1-2 wks) about Cultural Imperialism, Exploitive Capitalism ani Foreign Language Control, etc. etc. Ami Goenkars only realize we have lost something when somebody else has it. Then we object that we have been deprived ani exploited because of our decent character and high-class temperament. Regards, GL VERY TRUE! EVEN THAT SORT OF GETTING UP ANDF COMPLAINING IS ONLY FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS! WE HAVE DEARTH RESPECT FOR OUR IDENTITY CULTURE LANGUAGE. WHAT WE HAVE IS LIP SYMPATHY AND A LOT OF SELF INTEREST. FAUSTO
[Goanet]Goanetter's meeting: Obrigado
Dear Goanetters, it was a pleasure to meet you all who were present at the Clube Vasco da Gama yesterday. Though I was recovering from some helath problem, it was great to meet so many people I interact with on the Internet in loco and personally. Frederick, thank you for your concern, but I think the lusophobia period is quite past tense in Goa and especially gaonetters, being a global community representing an enormou cultural diversity, do not have any problems talking to a young Goan / Portuguese. And the average age of Goanet is not so alarmingly high as some think, it's perhaps just that younger members are not in Goa as regularly as their parents or just feel shy appearing to this type of collective blind dates... It was great to talk to so many people with so many different projects. In case anyone has not got my contact number, I am still in Goa until the 4th of January and you may call me on 98 50 45 42 17. I am always interested in meeting people here in goa and... redsicover my roots and my homeland. Abracos, Constantino * Goa @ http://www.supergoa.com/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Dec 22, 2004!
Jednam tujem cop bhoron votta, dusream ttaim vantt pirdear korinaka!) (When your cup overflows, share it dont waste it.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Goa and migrants
--- Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of buying land in Pernem. Do you have the money? Or do you blow it all in the illegal casinos? Do you get paid a minimum wage in the sweat labor camps of communist Macau? Do you think the Shiv Sena will allow that? Do you have any strings to pull? Against Shiv Sena your contacts with the Chinese mafia should help. Hindi Chini bhaiee bhaiee. When did you come from the Caucases to Goa? I was born in Goa under foreign occupation and colonial oppression. What about you? Wow you are fluent Portuguese writer learnt any lessons from Agente Monteiro? My Portuguese is not as good as your Red Chinese. I didn't have a chance to meet Agente Monteiro. He jumped in a well out of fear and cowardice when a Bharati Jawan came after him, init? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Taking a break from Goanet !
Dear All, It isn't easy saying good bye(so people say) and its with much regret that I do so! I need to leave, take a break, get lost and/or whatever. Life has been tough on me for a while now, and its also passing me by kinda soon Hence, thought I'll take a ride. I am joining a gang(of fellow losers) that plan to travel the globe. Lets hope I enjoy this one, at the least. Its been nice knowing you all here!!! specially Cecil, Eddie, Domnic, Joegoauk, Bosco, Jerry, Aires, Floriano, Vivek, Alfred, Santosh, Radhakrishnan, Gabe, Vasu, Lino, Cypriano, Victor, Lory, Sameer, Merywn last but not the least Fred. I know you are all Mr', so i haven't mentioned that=)) Sorry if have missed anyone No offence meant for the ladies...you all are flowers here. Good bye! for the moment until i return. Hope i do so !! as u know; nothing is for sure in this world.. but, i'll be back. Cheers, hAVE a gREAT dAY!! Seb PS: Will be in Goa for a couple of weeks need to see the place if its the same i left this Feb. other than panjim with the cosmetic touch:-), rest will be the same i believe. until then takecare all you folks out there and continue your contribution to GOANET.
Re: [Goanet]Comments on OUCH! - (Editorial - (H) - 20 December, 2004
OUCH ! Herald Editorial- December 20, 2004 And this what would be our priority today. Go back to the grassroots and ask what is lacking and not listen to a few ill-informed people and build castles in the air. But do the ministers want to do so or do they prefer to leave Goa's rural masses always begging? After all a few crumbs thrown at election time does ensure a lot of votes. And for all those who praise these castles being built in the cities, do go and live in the villages sans electricity, health services or tarred roads and there is no denying their first words will be OUCH COMMENTS: Today, at the goanettter's get-together at the Clube Vasco Da Gama, in Panjim, I was talking to Margaret Mascarenhas, the columnist from Tivim, who is a very vocal person when it comes to wrong priorities. And I have admired her views more often than not. And as usual, the tone of the talk was IFFI and Manohar Parrikar's priorities. At one point, she said to me Look here, Floriano, all said and done, we can see some changes outside as well as inside, inside meaning the working of the departments, which was not forth-coming during the Congress regime. Yes, of course, You are absolutely right. But remember, I told her, that when one sees a desert all around for a life-time and one suddenly comes across a little oasis, one naturally appreciates the oasis. But that does not mean that they know that this little oasis need not have been so little and so costly to bring about. Congress notwithstanding, I said, the entire Goa should have been a wonderful oasis and at very decently nominal costs. Come to think of it, there were no written down plans for the Congress to bring about any oasis to Goa. Everything was ad-hoc'sm and impulsive. Now with Parrikar in the saddle, where are the written down plans? Isn't everything that is going on is ad-hoc'sm? Where are the priorities? These are castles in the air, indeed. IFFI is one such castle at exhorbitant costs. It will come down on its own. Manohar Parrikar will find out the hard way that castles in the air do not last for long. A lot of people find me totally anti-Parrikar and biased like a blue carrot, if ever there was one. But the inner voice tells me that he is the most rotten of them all the previous Chief Ministers put together. And, now, we shout ourselves hoarse that the documentary VCD specially brought out by the Parrikar's RSS Education Department for the benefit of the students to acquaint them that the Portuguese took Goa by the Cross and not by the sword and has portrayed the Catholic Priests as Muslim Mullas - IS WRONG??. What did Ex-Archbishop Raul Gonsalves think of Mr. Manohar Parrikar when he accepted his bouquet of flowers on his birthday? A St Francis Xavier re-incarnate??? Did he not 'BLESS' Manohar Parrikar's cabinet with some rotten to their core, lambs, belonging to his own flock??? Let our present Archbishop also give one more huge property belonging to the Church to house more RSS schools such as Hedgewar High School in Fontainhas to germinate more RSS vipers who can come barging into the Bishop's Palace and raise a stink like the last one, that refuses to travel across the road from the Bishop's Palace and into the Chief Ministers bungalow. Floriano Lobo Well done, Floriano, keep up the good work. I am positive some 'kelawalla and bhajiwalli' will cry foul immediately. Seb
[Goanet]Re: [Goanet-news]Goanet this week (Cornel DaCosta) www.goanvoice.org.u k
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