[Goanet] TSKK REPORT 2007

2007-12-24 Thread pratap naik
THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR B.B.Borkar Road Alto Porvorim,Goa – 403 521 TSKK REPORT 2007 Wishing you all grace filled Christmas: The feast of caring and sharing May you be blessed With joy and happiness in the New Year 2008 It is said that ‘If one can dream it, then you can do it.’ Years

Re: [Goanet] Prmoting caste blindness - to Victor

2007-12-24 Thread Roland Francis
Dear Victor, The last sentence there's room for everybody who lives a good life is your own interpretation. That is not part of the passage. The reading is : In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you (King James version).

[Goanet] MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

2007-12-24 Thread Swastik
Dear All, I take this opportunity to wish all the readers and participants of Goanet forums a very happy Christmas and also convey my wishes to Bosco. May the coming year 2008 bring lots of joy, prosperity and Happiness to all of us. MERRY CHRISTMAS With full regards; Shashikant.

[Goanet] Talking Photos: X'Mas Special

2007-12-24 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: X'Mas Special JoeGoaUk’s Neurio, Batk, Dos, dodol . vodde, and Korbolam http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2132604994size=l City shopping http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2132919684size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2132605512size=l === Other 19 Goan

[Goanet] Konknni Martir Floriano Vaz Puroskar 2007

2007-12-24 Thread pratap naik
Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr B. B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, Goa – 403 521, INDIA. Phone: (0832) 2415857, 2415864 FAX: 91-832-2413389 Estd. 29-03-1982. Reg. No. 23/Goa/82 E-mail: [EMAIL

[Goanet] STOP participating in the '3 Kings Feast' in Cansaulim on 06/01/08 and thereafter

2007-12-24 Thread C Fernandes
A request to all true Roman Catholics from Cansaulim and surrounding villages - NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FEAST OF 'THREE KINGS' AT CANSAULIM ON 06TH JAN 2008. Instead, organise a caste-free parallel Feast in the main Cansaulim Church. Please pass on this message to all true Cansaulim

[Goanet] In quest of reasoned arguments from the caste apologists instead of mere defensiveness.

2007-12-24 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hello Edward Not at all The democratic anti-casteists only 'bomb' through reasoned arguments/ideas on the Net. In turn, instead of mere defensiveness, it would be wonderful to have reasoned and well-thought out arguments/ideas from the caste apologists. Please can you try to do this in a

[Goanet] Maut ke Saudagar - boomeranged on Congress

2007-12-24 Thread Vinay Natekar
The grief of Congress party and their cohorts is inconsolable. Their simulated world has collapsed. They were dreaming of dislodging Narendra Modi from Gujarat. The dream world of power has suddenly ended. Faced with the harsh realities they are now dazed and stupefied. They have lost their

Re: [Goanet] Caste system for Albert with a glass of feni or a glass of champagne .................

2007-12-24 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Hello Albert, I was wondering if my name would crop up when you posted on this forum. Lo behold, Ed have been put down for saying Albert likes Feni. Actually Albert it was actuallly you who not only intimidated that in the post I replied to. So maybe you dont remember...

Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process a Dying Race

2007-12-24 Thread Carvalho
--- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The abuse suffered by Native Indians in Canada provides a parallel to the caste abuse in the Goa of yesteryear. - Roland's parallel to Native Indians in Canada, brought to mind my visit to a Native American

[Goanet] SEZ Movement

2007-12-24 Thread aura melisa
Hi If Mahatany Saldanha of Goa’s Movement Against SEZ is indeed serious about his directives to tourist to leave Goa by 28th December 2007 , let Goa shed tears now if it has any. How ridiculous can Mahatany or for that any one else concerned about SEZ get. Do we have to set the

[Goanet] 'Chardi' with a priest in the family to JoeGoa

2007-12-24 Thread edward desilva
Hi All, What happened 50 years ago (half a century) is ancient. I remember when I was in Guirim Boarding school, there was a special dinning hall for the privileged, they ate special food while we had watery curry with TWO pieces of meat in it. These boys belonged to the TARVOTI or AFRICAN

[Goanet] Goans New Year Ball - Bahrain

2007-12-24 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Goans New Year Ball - Bahrain The Young Goans Club, Bahrain will hold a New year Ball at the Palace Hotel in Adliya on 31st Decmber. The traditional new year Dinner Dance of the Club will begin at 8.00 p.m. Live Band The Aryan Fame will provide music for the old and young to

[Goanet] Merry Christmas to you all

2007-12-24 Thread Albert Desouza
We cannot speak about Christmas without thinking of Manger, shepherds, kings or wise men and Harod. Jesus was born in a stable at Bethlehem. For over last two hundred years we have been reciting this sentence like parrots. Stable represents dirt, poverty, humility. Usual poor people have dirt

[Goanet] Goan genealogy: Sousa / Souza, D'Sousa, D'Souza, de Souza, etc.

2007-12-24 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The site indicated in the message above requires login, but when I tried to indicate Souza family, there was an error report saying that that family was already registered. I changed to Sousa and it was accepted! Incidentally, my family members have spelt

[Goanet] Sea Harrier crashes in Goa

2007-12-24 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Sea Harrier crashes in Goa, pilot safe Rate the Story canvote='Yes'; function PopWindowNoScroll(URL,height,width) {hWindow =

[Goanet] Goa Archbishop's Christmas Message (2007)

2007-12-24 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa Archbishop's Christmas Message (2007) It is Christmas once again. Our beautiful villages and towns are dressed up for the festivities. It warms our hearts to see how our people in Goa -- regardless of religion -- come together to celebrate their sense of neighbourhood, their sense of

Re: [Goanet] SEZ Movement

2007-12-24 Thread Nigel Britto
Reference to John Collaco's write-up about the GMAS instructing tourists to go away. It is indeed foolish to try to kill off the one industry that legally thrives in Goa. As Mr.Collaco has said, it amounts to setting the house on fire to kill the rat. And even worse is to subtly threaten violence

[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Christmas Day!

2007-12-24 Thread Jude Botelho
23-Dec-2007 Dear Friend, At Christmas we wish each other a very Happy Christmas! For most people Christmas is a time of merry making, of visiting friends and sharing gifts and partying. But Christmas can also be a difficult time for people who have lost a dear one, people on their bed of

[Goanet] GMAS to tourists: Leave Goa by Dec 27

2007-12-24 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears, The text of Matanhy Saldanha's Press Conference as published in the Navhind Times is reproduced below from NT's website. Anti-SEZs group asks tourists to leave state by Dec 28 NT Staff Reporter Panaji, Dec 23 The Goa's

[Goanet] Triangulation and Mitigation

2007-12-24 Thread Philip Thomas
A single seater Sea Harrier crashed at Dabolim airport at 1115 hrs on Christmas Eve while landing leading to the closure of the runway for at least 3 hours. Pilot ejects safely. PIB version: At around 1115 hrs today 24 Dec 07, a single seater Sea Harrier fighter aircraft crashed at Dabolim, Goa.

[Goanet] warning to tourists to leave Goa by December 28.

2007-12-24 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
While strongly opposed to SEZs in Goa, I take strong exception to the warning by some politicians, for tourists to leave Goa by December 28. Granted, the patience of Goans is wearing out as the politicians in power continue to play their games. First it is Industrial Parks, then IT Parks,

[Goanet] GOA LIBERATION insights too on Azadi Express

2007-12-24 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The Azadi Express train arrived at the Vasco-da-Gama Railway Station Goa yesterday morning. The 12 bogie comparments of the train provides through the audio and visual media exhibits relating to The First War of Independence 1857, 1907 the Birth Year of Shaheed Bhagat Singh 1947 Indian

Re: [Goanet] SEZ Movement

2007-12-24 Thread Deelip Menezes
If the GBA could achieve so much with any violence, I fail to see why the GMAS cannot do the same. Deelip Menezes

[Goanet] The caste debate on Goanet..

2007-12-24 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
While initially a proponent on GoaNet of bringing the subject of caste and the skeletons of casteeism out of our closetsl I am wondering if this thread will ever end. I dont mean to make light of the subject. To those who were impacted by casteeism, the subject I am sure is extremely

[Goanet] Brass band X'mas Special

2007-12-24 Thread JoeGoaUk
I forgot I had this one.. I only come to know today as someone commneted on it http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd67UNfKOOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or

[Goanet] IT Park row: Another complaint filed against Goa IT minister

2007-12-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
A Goa-based social organisation on Monday filed a police complaint against state Information Technology Minister Dayanand Narvekar alleging criminal misappropriation, fraud and criminal breach of trust in the controversial Rajiv Gandhi IT habitat issue. This is the second complaint filed against

[Goanet] Annual Goanetters Meet - 2007 - UPDATE

2007-12-24 Thread Goanet Admin
Annual Goanetters Meet - 2007 - UPDATE Date: December 27, 2007 Time: 4:30pm Venue: Foodland Restaurant Bar Miramar Residency Panaji - Goa Phone: +91 (832) 3292803, 2462326 In order to celebrate (probably) the biggest achievement by a Goan in 2007, the

Re: [Goanet] Promoting caste blindness - Cornel

2007-12-24 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Cornel, Merry Christmas to you and to all other Goanetters. As your recent post was addressed specifically to me, (both on Goanet and privately), let me state once AGAIN. Just because you want to behave like a jerk, does not mean the rest of us have to follow you. Sorry to deflate your

Re: [Goanet] Caste System - The Healing Process

2007-12-24 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Roland With the greatest respect to Gilbert, I must ask what rubbish he writes from a feudal mind-set whilst living (presumably), in a modern life style? For crying out loud, many people in the Goan Diaspora haven't got a clue about caste among so called Catholic Goans. A majority

Re: [Goanet] Hindu caste system thrives in the UK!

2007-12-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the difference between caste and casteism; which our pseudo-anti-casteist do not seem to understand. Goan Casteism (enhancing one's ego / resume by demeaning another Goan / institution) should be ended among Goans and on goanet. And casteists

Re: [Goanet] GMAS to tourists: Leave Goa by Dec 27

2007-12-24 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - GMAS is justified in kicking it up a notch higher. Petitions, hunger strikes, yatras have not had the slightest impact. Au contraire, the government has notified yet another SEZ during this time. It is clear that this corrupt govt led by Digambar Kamat has no intentions of

[Goanet] IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME

2007-12-24 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
www.goa-world.com Quality. Precision. Professional. IT’S CHRISTMAS TIME It’s going to be Christmas, I can’t wait For I know it’s going to be great Someone’s there to get me a gift I’m sure it will be heavy to lift. Everyone

[Goanet] MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL.

2007-12-24 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears, We wish you a Merry Christmas and a New year filled with Happiness ...and a wonderful week in between the two. Kristi mog tumchea sovem asum. Mog asundi. Miguel Braganza and family. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo,

Re: [Goanet] Insiders and Outsiders and the Goan identity (Parrikar)

2007-12-24 Thread J. Colaco jc
On 21/12/2007, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1: Contrary to what Comrade Gadgil imagines, the Goan Identity is neither difficult nor elusive to apprehend.We Goans know it when we see it. 2: Consider the Goan Identity as a starting point.We may zoom down into this parent Identity

[Goanet] Seasons Greetings Happy New Year

2007-12-24 Thread Bryan Daguiar
Hi, As this eventful year draws to a close, I would like to extend a sincere greeting to you and your family wishing you a very auspicious festive season. Eid Mubarak / Merry Christmas in advance. My family (Smita Nathan) and the team at NCBC join me in wishing you every happiness,

Re: [Goanet] LEOPARD ESCAPES - self-reflections???

2007-12-24 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Venantius Pinto wrote: By any stretch of imagination, India is largely not a self-reflecting society. Such reflections (even one tinged with humor) are but one path to understanding ourselves, and our membership to what is often passed off as family -- troglodytes, venantius, I have been

Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process a Dying Race - Selma

2007-12-24 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Selma, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and all Goanetters and your families. You break my heart and likely the hearts of your parents and our generation. After all the education we provided our next generation of Goans, all that we can expect them to transmit to the next

[Goanet] SEZ Mahatany

2007-12-24 Thread aura melisa
Hi If Mahatany Saldanha of Goa’s Movement Against SEZ is indeed serious about his directives to tourist to leave Goa by 28th December 2007 , let Goa shed tears now if it has any. How ridiculous can Mahatany or for that any one else concerned about SEZ get. Do we have to set the

[Goanet] Tasering people_Could happen in India, to include Goa

2007-12-24 Thread Venantius Pinto
As the people voice against againt crony capitalism, late capitalism, advanced capitalism, and now disaster capitalism, those protesting voices are being muted by tasers -- a horrific tool to silence dissent. Can one imagine the Indian police being given the power to taser. Here are videos of

Re: [Goanet] SEZ Movement

2007-12-24 Thread Nigel Britto
Absolutely. We ought to take pride in our non-violent culture. Let's hope Peace prevails... truth Liberates Nigel.

Re: [Goanet] Promoting Caste Blindness - to Cornel for Albert

2007-12-24 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Edward I do not need to pull the other one re dating. I offered a provable fact but you offered pure speculation. Indeed, I think you know less than you think you know about the dating market then and now! However, please do not ask me for the proof as the ladies in question are happy and

[Goanet] Reply to Mr.Monteiro

2007-12-24 Thread Albert Desouza
I hate when people boast. The power of man should come from God. If that glorifies God then it is ok but if not then you are heading for trouble. Sorry I do not think I have called anyone pagan. In the past I have criticized my religion and my clergy. If you have given up Christianity and have

Re: [Goanet] Portrait of a Gaudi - too much gadbud about nada

2007-12-24 Thread J. Colaco jc
On 23/12/2007, Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, I feel it is fine to title the portrait as Portrait of a Gaudi. Its how the Rajan, as the photographer perceived the image he shot. Needless to say, if we lean towards being PC (or protective) about his artistic/cultural impression, we

[Goanet] Goa news for December 25, 2007

2007-12-24 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sea Harrier crashes in Goa, pilot safe - NDTV.com [12 hours ago] Indian Navy's Sea Harrier fighter aircraft crashed while landing at the Dabolim Naval Air Station in Goa early on Monday.

[Goanet] Video: People and events that made news in the week that went by.

2007-12-24 Thread Tim de Mello
Courtesy of GOA365 TV Channel: People and events that made news in the week that went by. Go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTWjwUCpbko; Tim de Mello _ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @

Re: [Goanet] Caste System - The Healing Process

2007-12-24 Thread Roland Francis
Gilbert, Since most of your questions are fair, I have no problem in answering them. I prefer my caste-less and liberal cousins because: As parents they make no effort to marry off their children, whether it is to Sudras, Dalits Bamons, white Caucasians or anybody else. It is the children who

Re: [Goanet] Merry Christmas to you all

2007-12-24 Thread Nigel Britto
Dear Goenkars, Here's wishing you all a very Merry Christmas! He came here to save you and me. He is the Prince of Peace. May that peace prevail in Goa... forever... truth Liberates. Nigel Britto

[Goanet] Questions that need to be answered before the Close of 2007 ?

2007-12-24 Thread Renco
*To the editorial Board of Goa Net. In the first place My hats off to the team for keeping the Goan Spirit alive through this Channel and My Greetings to all for a very Happy , Joyful Christmas and a prosperous new Year. I Just have a Question to the readers and I would sincerely appreciate a

[Goanet] Triangulation and Mitigation contd

2007-12-24 Thread Philip Thomas
DNA version (extract): Navy fighter plane crashes, pilot safe.. This is the fourth accident involving a Sea Harrier in the past one year. Earlier this year, another Sea Harrier had crashed while landing on the Navy carrier INS Viraat during a multi-nation naval exercice in the Bay of Bengal.

Re: [Goanet] Insiders and Outsiders

2007-12-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
In-group/out-group distinctions and territoriality are basic biological traits with a strong evolutionary grounding. But one can certainly use reason to overcome the grotesque elements of these tendencies. That is what civilization is all about. We can learn to treat outsiders better. The least we

[Goanet] GMAS to tourists: Leave Goa by Dec 27

2007-12-24 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dear Me! Teacher and student speak the same language and ... it is not English or Konkani, but VIOLENCE. I thought that Don Bosco High School, Panaji-Goa, was managed by the Salesians of Don Bosco and produced pacifists like Pravin Sabnis of the SVM, with Christian love irrespective of

Re: [Goanet] SEZ Movement .... matter of vision

2007-12-24 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dear Deelip, The GBA was ...and remains... an Apolitical grouping of individuals concerned about Goa. It worked because of it remained peaceful and focussed on its target. The GMAS is a Political grouping of parties and individuals interested in political fall-out in addition, or in spite of,

[Goanet] Mathany's call to Tourist shows his sad mentality

2007-12-24 Thread cedrico dacosta
Mathany's call to Tourist shows his sad mentality Mathany's call for tourists to leave Goa before New Year 2008 shows his imaturity in knowing the ground reality of how much a tourist goes through to holiday in Goa. Mathany is definately sad and proves his incompetitiveness from

Re: [Goanet] GMAS to tourists: Leave Goa by Dec 27

2007-12-24 Thread Marlon Menezes
Rajan, Agreed that SEZ is the monster, but why shoot an innocent bystander in the process? Its like prescribing a dose of ebola virus for a cancer sufferer. Shoot DK and his government instead. Marlon Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Goanet - GMAS is justified in kicking it

Re: [Goanet] The caste debate on Goanet..

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Monserrate
Dear Vivian, This great system of classification is losing its shine and charm every passing day. Go to any college and ask the students around (in their late teens or early twenties) their caste. You will find they know their types of pasta better than the types of 'casta'. I never ever

[Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24, 2007)

2007-12-24 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Saw the midnight mass at three places - Saligao, Moira, and Aldona, in that order. Some photographs of the celebrations - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-saligao.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-moira.jpg

Re: [Goanet] Caste system

2007-12-24 Thread C Fernandes
Albert, Gone are those days when caste system dominated the church. Those days are NOT gone completely as yet. On 06 Jan 2008 true Catholics will NOT participate in he 'Three Kings' feast in Cansaulim as well as in Chandor. Also, appropriate action will be taken on the priests those who

Re: [Goanet] Caste System: 'Chardi' with a priest in the family

2007-12-24 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Joe Many thanks for saying the kind of things many caste carrying people pretend does not exist in Goa. An explanation for such chardi behaviour (as in your excellent example), is that these are pretend Catholics but who are utterly caste in belief. They like to think they are modern in

[Goanet] Happy Birthday Jesus - A poem by Basilio Magno (Spain)

2007-12-24 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Wishing you all a Very Happy Christmas- Basilio Magno Rosi (Spain)Happy Birthday Jesus Refrain: Solo: Hap, hap, happy birthday to you. Coro: Happy Birthday Jesus! Solo: Hap, hap, happy birthday to you. Coro: Happy birthday Jesus! Solo: Hap, hap, happy birthday to

[Goanet] Advice to Mahatany.

2007-12-24 Thread aura melisa
Mr. Mahatany, Here is some advice which will serve your purpose of getting rid of SEZ. 1. Do not threatened poor innocent tourist who have nothing to do with the SEZ policy and permission to come into existence. I am aware the threat is to the Government. But the tourist

Re: [Goanet] GMAS to tourists: Leave Goa by Dec 27

2007-12-24 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - I do not advocate the use of violent means in the fight against SEZs. And as I understand it, neither does Matanhy Saldanha, notwithstanding the malicious propaganda unleashed here by the likes of Miguel Braganza. Calling on the tourists to leave Goa or to stay out of it does not

[Goanet] The Mahatma Returns

2007-12-24 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Standing ovation, please. A puddle of tears is what I find myself maroooned in right now after reading this devastatingly moving spiel. So moving that I hear a portion of the neighborhood bull's anatomy 'moved' in appreciation, too. Regards, r Santosh Helekar wrote:

[Goanet] Merry Christmas

2007-12-24 Thread Valley Quadras
*Dear Friends,* *Let the spirit of CHRIST be upon us, let this CHRISTMAS bring new hope, new spirit and new CHEERS into our life.* *Kindly visit DAAIZ **CHRISTMAS* http://www.daaiz.com* SPECIAL ISSUE* *Kind Regards* *Valley Benita* -- Give to the world the BEST you have and the BEST will come

Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Annual Goanetters Meet - 2007 - UPDATE

2007-12-24 Thread dilip desai
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