Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote: This is my last email to you on this thread - unless circumstances change that would warrant me to write back again. Shri Fernandes, Sorry to see you take your marbles and go home. It looks like you could not achieve what you

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-26 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
- Francis Rodrigues wrote: Forgetting the Can Spam Act...selective amnesia.   --- Marshall Mendonza  wrote: In the good old days of the opium trade this was known as 'being shanghaied' :-) - Santosh Helekar wrote: I have helped set up two Goan public

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 7/23/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote: Let me repeat this once again, I have set you in my cross-wires as the next target. You are messing with the wrong guy. So what else is new? Instead of logic and reason, we have another instance of the same senseless verbal exercise

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
So you took out one target. I assume even though you live in New York City, you did not use Mafia tactics.  May be what you did was neutralized / neutered / made miskut.  Mercifully, you have spared us from knowing his name - obviously tongue-in-cheek statement.:=)). I am fairly certain it is

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Francis Rodrigues
Real fun watching Goan cyberspace's No. 1 Spam Hound (SH) squirm, with none of his sneer-buddies backing up his false bluster! Even more hilarious - neuro Helekar who spent the better part of a year spitting out authoritative quotes at poor Fr. Ivo, now feebly quotes the widely-discredited

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Jim Fernandes
slightly differently - I hit back twice as hard! Cheers, Jim F New York --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 12:06 AM So you

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
After Gilbert and Marshall, now another member with personal issues is discharging his puerile potshots at me again. Speaking of backing up, it appears that all the backing up is being done by the now defunct FCA Rodriquez and Company. Most of these characters who have never shown any ability

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-25 Thread Jim Fernandes
? Jim F New York --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 8:58 PM --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Jim

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-24 Thread Jim Fernandes
for the grant? Let me repeat this once again, I have set you in my cross-wires as the next target. You are messing with the wrong guy. Jim F --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Fernandes
wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 11:02 PM Shri Fernandes, It looks like you are at a point now that you need some kind of emotional

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote: Since I am not able to make you understand simple logic, let me make take this to the REAL next level. Shri Fernandes, Sorry to break this to you, but the fact that you are becoming increasingly desperate to take things to what

[Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Jim Fernandes: The reason I am writing about this on GoaNet is because, a fellow GoaNetter named Santosh Helekar included me in this non-GoaNet related group, when I responded to a thread on GoaNet. He had no business of cross-pollinating debates and then include my email ID, in such external

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
Adding to what is said below, I am writing this to let you know that another fellow Goanetter named Marshall Mendonza sent me an unsolicited email, adding me to his private cc list of friends and supporters, with the sole purpose of issuing a legal threat against me. He had no business

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shri Fernandes, It looks like you are at a point now that you need some kind of emotional release. Unfortunately, I suspect you are afraid to do this in public. But you have started escalating your abusive behavior to a new level. You have now also graduated to lying about what I said in

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-21 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I have no intention of getting in this debate. Yet every forum has to be registered under some-body's name. Under whose name are the various over-the-top goan forums registered? After all an individual/ someone had the courage to coin the name and register the forum on yahoo. Please have the

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
Since Gilbert has now gotten into this debate, while simultaneously denying that he has no intention of doing it, I would like to ask him the following questions to be able to provide appropriate answers because of my longstanding membership of several Goan internet forums: 1. To which Goan

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-20 Thread Jim Fernandes
Senhor Helekar, Some days ago, you claimed GoaNet has no rules whatesoever. When I gave you the relevant link, you claimed not seeing the relevant rule there. Are you visually challenged or brain dead? It appears that spoon feeding you with the relevant rule was not enough. Now you want

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Fernandes
these, as natures freaks. Jim F New York --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 3:26 PM

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote: It is not the figment of my imagination, but a click on the below URL might help Mr Helekar to refresh his neurons with GoaNet rules: http://goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=9 Once again, Shri Fernandes

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Fernandes
Senhor Helekar, This is basically my point - you are conveniently omitting pieces of GoaNet rules to suit your argument. I am not into spoon feeding, but will make exception for senhor Helekars sake: Please search for the key word cross posts in GoaNet rules and you will see what I

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shri Fernandes, It is clear that you are not able to quote a single Goanet rule which explicitly states that I cannot post my Goanet post anywhere else, nor that I have to ask your permission to do it, as you claimed. So now you are resorting to this kabuki dance of asking me to search for key

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-13 Thread Francis Rodrigues
resembles a book, we will congratulate you. But until such time, take my advice - grow up, and get out more. Francis. http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ .. On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 Mervyn Lobo wrote Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination? Francis, You were

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
such time, take my advice - grow up, and get out more. Francis. http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ .. On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 Mervyn Lobo wrote Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination? Francis, You were part of the same group that was spamming me too. I

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: It is so easy to bad-mouth others. Goans make a virtue to those crab-like traits with convoluted arguments and sophistry.   Why is Gilbert badmounthing and abusing other Goans and other Goan forums on Goanet. Is he afflicted

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
Bosco wrote: Rico, Eddie, Jim, etc are only expressing themselves too simply. Does Goanet consider personal attacks against fellow Goans by individuals such as Francis, Gilbert, etc. expressing themselves too simply? Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-12 Thread Bosco D
-Original Message- From: Santosh Helekar Bosco wrote: Rico, Eddie, Jim, etc are only expressing themselves too simply. Does Goanet consider personal attacks against fellow Goans by individuals such as Francis, Gilbert, etc. expressing themselves too simply? RESPONSE:

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Bosco D
-Original Message- From: Santosh Helekar The Wikipedia definitions of email harvesting and email spam below make it crystal clear...blah...blah...blah.. RESPONSE: Thanks for the humour..but dont take these complaints too seriously. Rico, Eddie, Jim, etc are only

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Edward Verdes
Santosh, You admit that my name does flash on your groups..why shud even part of the email id with my name be exposed on your groups if I am not a member of that group or not even related to that discussion? If anyone wants to send a message to any of the half exposed ids one has to sign in the

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Edward Verdes
Dear Dr. Colaco, Pls tell me why should even my name and half email address (which appears in the CC msgs and can be replied to) appear on Goemchimxaptom, when I am not a member of that group and when am not even connected with the discussions? Edward Verdes - Original Message -

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Francis (FCA) Rodriguez wrote: Only a threat to inform his employer stopped the dysfunctional Helekar from spamming me too. He does not believe in a Do Not Spam policy. Helekar is not a don't - just a can't! Please note that FCA Rodriguez has found this an opportunity to abuse me because of

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: Pls tell goanetters what falsehoods I have spread here? Eddie, The falsehoods you have spread and are spreading now are the following: 1. That your email ID is flashed on GX and AGD. 2. That someone can get your email ID by simply signing onto a

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Edward Verdes
Santosh, You have still not answered my question why even part of my email address which can be replied by the group members is appearing in GX and AGD of which I am not a member? Your point no 1 n 2..Here is a msg i just checked on GX. I am not a memeber but still i can access it.

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread J. Colaco jc
On 11 July 2010 04:02, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Dr. Colaco, Pls tell me why should even my name and half email address (which appears in the CC msgs and can be replied to) appear on Goemchimxaptom, when I am not a member of that group and when am not even connected with

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Eddie, Here are answers to your questions. --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: You have still not answered my question why even part of my email address which can be replied by the group members is appearing in GX and AGD of which I am not a member? The

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
- Frederick Noronha wrote I suspect that (like me) you secretly are dying to read who's posting what on this list. It is so much entertainment. That too without tax!  -- GL responds   The sad part, the main proponents of this over-the-top Goan site are individuals who

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
Instead of sticking to existing Goanet rules, and abiding by them himself, in the first place, while strictly observing the duties of an administrator entrusted with the responsibility of running a mailing list, Admin Noronha is manufacturing bogus controversies. He is corrupting the meaning of

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Frederick Noronha
On 10 July 2010 12:30, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Noronha is manufacturing bogus controversies. He is corrupting the meaning of the words harvesting and spamming to smear people E-mail harvesting is the process of obtaining lists of e-mail addresses using various methods

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 10 July 2010 09:36, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think it is very edifying to see grown men pour scorn and heap abuse on each other's head, by the bucketful, and believe that it is debate. What is even more tragic is that some of the gentlemen on this list

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Edward Verdes
FN, I too am on this list for the reason that I had replied to a post on goanet a year back. I had asked to be off this list but still I am there..my email ID is being flashed on goemchim xapotom and also another recently formed group...though am no longer subscribed to these groups. When I

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: I had asked to be off this list but still I am there..my email ID is being flashed on goemchim xapotom and also another recently formed group...though am no longer subscribed to these groups. Like Admin Noronha, Eddie is

[Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Yes, 1-2 guys appear to have left goanet for the over-the-top Goan chat site. And few others who are active on both and other sites, have markedly reduced the last wordism on goanet; taking the debate to the other site(s). That is very good for the vast majority of goanetters; but few of us

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread J. Colaco jc
Dear Eddie Verdes, re: your 'email ID is being flashed on goemchim xapotom' Could you please direct us to an URL which will confirm the above quoted statement from you? jc == Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: I had asked to be off this list but still I am there..my email ID is

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Frederick Noronha
On 11 July 2010 03:17, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: So in honesty, our prayers should go for these 6-9 bloviators. Hope they receive their karmic rewards they have earned as quickly as possible. But very likely they will only get those karmic rewards when they get our names

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
The Wikipedia definitions of email harvesting and email spam below make it crystal clear how Admin Noronha is distorting these meanings to badmouth those who like being subscribed to alternative Goan mailing lists, such as Goenchim Xapotam, or be on a cc list consisting of Goans who have quit

[Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Fernandes
Folks, I recently had the misfortune of being included in a Non-GoaNet related forum, without my permission. I have nothing against people having their independent mailing lists, but it should NOT come at the expense of innocent people who never requested to be included in such lists, to

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following personal attack against me because of a private matter was posted in this forum by Jim Fernandes without my permission in clear violation of laws governing such public forums. I would request Goanet moderators not to allow on public forums such personal attacks originating from

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Fernandes
. Jim F New York --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:49 PM The following personal

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shri Fernandes, These bogus rules and etiquettes of yours are a figment of your imagination. Goanet has no such rules. It is a public forum. Discussions on it can be continued in any other forum or mailing list. What a private free citizen does in this regard is his/her own business. Nobody

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread J. Colaco jc
 Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: On the other hand, attacking people publicly because of private issues, or hurling publicly or on cc lists the filthiest obscenities at them is unlawful, subject to legal and criminal action. == My dear Santoshbab, While I understand the courtesy you

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha
I think the point is not about quoting from a  public archive, but rather *harvesting* email IDs from a public mailing list and then *spamming* people out of their mind... Even when there are repeated requests from them to be taken off the cc list they didn't ask to be on, in the first place. As