@ Selma
This John Lobo was from Sircaim. He was the father-in-Law of Jos Peter
D'Souza the advocate from Goa who figured in the Scarlet Keeling case.
@Mario
People resort to sarcasm when they have no ammunition. Are you belittling
John Lobo's contribution to the preservation of environment without
Tony Da Sa wrote:
One of my wife's relations, Mr. John Lobo worked for Sesa Goa and he was
responsible for growing literally thousands of saplings in Sesa Goa's
rejections and mining pits.
These things were done around 25 to 30 years ago.
But then I am an RG and am on the ground and can see the
Mario wrote:
The problem is not with mining per se but with the environmental
destruction and de-forestation caused by open faced mining. In the western
countries, such open pit mines are required to be re-landscaped and
rehabilitated as a business expense after they have depleted the mine of its
Words of wisdom from Mario the blah, blah
>The problem is not with mining per se but with the environmental
destruction and de-forestation caused by open faced mining. In the western
countries, such open pit mines are required to be re-landscaped and
rehabilitated as a business expense after they
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:28:05 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
Please refer to your earlier posts. You stated that in the west, criminals
are caught and put behind bars. Why then is this Geithner character running
loose?
Mario responds:
Because he has not been accused of any criminal activity. You can
One of the ills of Goa cited by some crazed NRGs is mining.
Point is nobody was complaining when mining was the mainstay of industry in
Goa. When jobs were few and scarce. Then, every one wanted a share of the
pie. Jobs, contracts, licenses. and the lot
Illegal mining is another story altogether.
>Mario responds:
To begin with, the link above was not given by Mervyn.
Secondly, what does racism and corruption in America have anything to do
with the corruption that is making a mess in Goa?
I think Tony's thinking gives us a good idea why Goa is in such a mess to
begin with.
Please refer t
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:03:43 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/145181/do_obama_and_geithner_have_the_same_flaw:_accommodation_instead_of_moral_action/
Please read the article in the link given by Mervyn:
We can infer:
1. That corruption exists in high places in America
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:22:44 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
*A lie* well told and *repeated* constantly *becomes* a *truth* to credulous
people. This is the tactic that Mario, a proponent of the "only-NRGs can save
Goa" camp.
Mario responds:
Here what I said in the following post:
http://lists.goa
Please chedk this out:
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:42:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Mario Goveia
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:01:48 -0800 (P
*A lie* well told and *repeated* constantly *becomes* a *truth* to credulous
people. This is the tactic that Mario, a proponent of the "only-NRGs can
save Goa" camp.
In his last epistle, in response to my question to show us practically by
action how we (RGs) can effect change in Goa, all he has in
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:51:54 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
They become NRGs with superior powers of preaching to RGs. They can tell us
the State is going to the dogs and a few bitches too and blah, blah, blah
Mario asks:
NRGs have to tell you this? Don't you live in Goa? Can't you see for
yourse
It appears that Boeing, Airbus Industrie and other aircraft manufacturers
are installing a secret gadget with a very powerful influence. It
brainwashes deshis who cross the oceans and empowers them with superior
knowledge and wisdom when they migrate. (The Brahmins of old feared crossing
the ocean
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:16:03 -0800 (PST)
From: lyrawmn
Some well meaning NRGs in their eagerness to help are attempting to reinvent
the environmental arena. RE: What are we waiting for posts?
Mario responds:
You are correct. Because I believe their heart is in the right place, I have
trie
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:24:28 -0800 (PST)
From: lyrawmn
After having in effect ceded control of North Goa to white foreigners who
actively and overtly discriminate against native Goans and Indians as
publicized, what does that say of the status quo in Goa, Mr. D'Sa?
Mario observes:
Oh, I ge
Gabriel wrote:
I have bought and sold property in London, Gold Coast and Melbourne. So
have other Goans, Malyasians, Chinese and Vietnamese and other non-white
people, resident or non-resident, citizens or non-citizens. There are no
WASP-only localities -the first time I have heard it mentioned, w
Exmo Sr. (Exma Sra?) I Nunes,
I am not sure whether I am adressing a gent or a lady as neither the name I
Nunes nor the email id reveal your sex, Not that I am sexist, but it would
be polite to address you with the appropriate salutation and your name with
the informality of email.
But I digress.
Mr. Goveia,
You have articulated concisely and well the rebuttal to some RGs claims of
unwarranted meddling by concerned NRGs in matters Goa.
I suspect theirs is a minority view culled in literary salons of the
cognoscenti.
In fairness, the RGs have a point in one area.
Some well meanin
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Tony de Sa wrote:
>But you black skinned American/ Britisher/ Australian/ Canadian
just try buying property in a WASP only locality. Racial prejudice may not
be overt but it is still there. You are still a 'second class' citizen no
matter how you console yourself.
I. Nu
n this topic.
- Original Message
> From: Samir Kelekar
> To: Goanet
> Sent: Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:02:53 PM
> Subject: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter
>
> Gabriel writes:
> >So the prejudice, dear Tony, is in your mind.
>
> Racist attacks
Halleluja, I am saved. I am convinced. The pro-west chest thumpers have
finally made me see the light of the day.
*There is no racial prejudice in the West or Australia*
I am convinced..
>I have bought and sold property in London, Gold Coast and Melbourne. So
have other Goans, Malyasians, Chines
Gabriel writes:
>So the prejudice, dear Tony, is in your mind.
Racist attacks endanger Indo-Australian ties.
http://www.upiasia.com/Society_Culture/2010/01/15/racist_attacks_endanger_indo-australian_ties/1520/
I guess your response to this would be like that of Shantaram
Naik --- blame the vic
- Original Message
> From: Mario Goveia
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Sent: Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:55:27 AM
> Subject: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter
>
> Tony D'Sa wrote:
>
> > That may be. But you black skinned American/ Britisher/ Au
Tony D'Sa wrote:
> That may be. But you black skinned American/ Britisher/ Australian/
> Canadian just try buying property in a WASP only locality. Racial
> prejudice may not be overt but it is still there. You are still
> a 'second class' citizen no matter how you console yourself.
Date: Thu,
Tony D'sa writes:
>That may be. But you black skinned American/ Britisher/ Australian/ Canadian
just try buying property in a WASP only locality. Racial prejudice may not
be overt but it is still there. You are still a 'second class' citizen no
>matter how you console yourself.
For me, even more t
Mario Goveia wrote:
Unfortunately, there are also some RG and "deshi" NRG chest-thumpers
who have decided that "foren" NRGs are a bigger problem than the
corruption and mess in Goa, who are completely wasting their time and
energy and deflecting attention from what needs to be done.
Date: Thu,
@Mario
Quote: Unfortunately, there are also some RG and "deshi" NRG chest-thumpers
who have decided that "foren" NRGs are a bigger problem than the corruption
and mess in Goa, who are completely wasting their time and energy and
deflecting attention from what needs to be done.Unquote
Response: No
PM
Subject: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:18:35 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
There are many good RGs doing their best and offering positive and
constructive solutions for Goa, like Floriano and Venita for example
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:18:35 +0530
From: Tony de Sa
1. Each and every one of our RGs is a good-for-nothing waiting only for a
hand out from the NRG brothers and sisters and waiting with an open mouth
for the next visa to fall from their NRG relations.
Mario responds:
Poppycock. There are ma
Dear Brother and Sister R G's.
It is a common perception among NRGs, that :
1. Each and every one of our RGs is a good-for-nothing waiting only for a
hand out from the NRG brothers and sisters and waiting with an open mouth
for the next visa to fall from their NRG relations.
2. Goa is a mess and
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