Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-15 Thread Seb dc
Hi Santosh, I for one is comfortable with what Marshall posts, as he is not running for elections nor an opportunistic like Sonal shah, who does a spin now to get into the Obama team. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: Very good points

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-15 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Samir, You said it! and rightly so! I now need not reply to Sandeep. I would have said more or less, the same thing. This also is part of my response to Santosh Helekar's defence of the indefensible. Sonal was indeed a member and part of VHPA and indirectly VHP. More importantly, She herself

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Bosco D'Mello
-Original Message- From: Marshall Mendonza Bosco D'Mello:As a first-generation American at a very early age, it is possible that one is not aware of the extent of the activities of the VHP 'back home'. Response: Are you suggesting that she became a member and office bearer of an

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Sandeep, In view of Marshalls explanation with quotes, Will U now please apologise to Marshall and to goanetters for talking nonsense. I think U have exposed yourself as to where your sensibilities and affiliations lie. Cheers! Nascy caldeira Melbourne,Down Under. --- On Sat, 13/12/08,

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: Even if we went just by Sonal Shah's words, it is clear that she did fund-raising for VHP in 2000 during the Gujarat earthquake. The only fact of Marshall's that I am believing here is that she was still associated with

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Nasci Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Marshall has no Professional or Business interests. What he is projecting is certainly in the larger interest of his Community and the Interest of India as a whole. By exposing the Rats he is doing a solemn service to Goa and

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Samir Kelekar
] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: samir_kele...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 12:59 PM --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: Even if we went just by Sonal Shah's words, it is clear that she did fund-raising for VHP

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- On Sat, 13/12/08, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If she is guilty of supporting violence in Gujarat because she did not speak up earlier in a public forum, then everyone who did not speak up in public when Al Qaeda was attacking US interests throughout the 90s, did not speak up

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
I think the Sonal Shah episode raises a few questions about the nature of the Indian elites, particularly their opportunism. They are conservatives/reactionaries back home, but very progressive when it comes to sitting under the umbrella of diversity and sharing the fruit of some other culture.

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: Very good points re: Sonal shah, Marshall. She has come clean now denouncing the pogrom by VHP. But it could be just an opportunistic statement because of compulsions. Should we take her by the words that she is speaking

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote: I think the Sonal Shah episode raises a few questions about the nature of the Indian elites, particularly their opportunism. They are conservatives/reactionaries back home, but very progressive when it comes to sitting under

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Bosco D'Mello
I think the Sonal Shah episode raises a few questions about the nature of the Indian elites, particularly their opportunism. RESPONSE: Opportunism is practiced by elites and others vis-avis everyone. Haven't we seen a Rajan Parrikar fulminate against 'ghantis' back home, and then proudly hold

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:00:28 -0500 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com Many people voted for Obama because they disliked Bush!! And Mario tells us regularly why people dislike Bush. Mario responds: Actually, post election polls showed that many people voted for Obama because they were

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Response: First of all, let me assure Sandeep that I have not joined any bandwagon or campaign nor will I join one any time in future. I have too strong an independent mind for that. Perhaps, Sandeep will judge the strong

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Mario, Sonal has felt the Guilt; guilt by association. That is why she has had to issue the 'Denial and Ronouncing with VHP statement. Simple as that. So why are U attacking Marshall? Talk on Sonal Shah if U must. In your lower paragraph, U are comparing apples with bananas Should we not be

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-13 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Hi Santosh, I do not see anything 'un thruthful' in Marshall's postings. He is rightfully exposing all the evil that is happening and more and his source is from the Media. He brings to the goanet forum what we goanettters might have missed out. The only people who are shaken by his truthful

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier we were informed that it was 'guilt by association' and that the VHP of A is different from the VHP. Now that the cat is out of the bag, I wonder what her apologists and spin doctors will tell us next. It is not

Re: [Goanet] Sonal Shah renounces VHP affiliation

2008-12-12 Thread Sandeep Heble
I endorse Santosh's views entirely on this. I somehow fail to understand why Marshall has joined the bandwagon of people, who are all out to tarnish the fair name of Sonal Shah with propaganda that is false, malicious and misleading, The link below is a strong objective rebuttal to the smear