Eddiebab,
Are you sure you are not falsely accusing me of changing facts? Please read my
post again. Perhaps, there is something that prevents you from recognizing the
irony in it.
But in case you don't, let me spell out that I was fully aware that the story
was from last year. What was
(An article that appeared in Herald on March 5, 2009)
It is sad to see people still becoming suckers for flapdoodle like astrology
and quack medicine, says SANTOSH A HELEKAR
It has been rather disappointing to watch the growth of irrationality and
anti-intellectualism in India and the world in
Fr. Ivo wrote:
Religion has a scientific basis in universe and human being. This is what
Dr.Santosh will not be able to understand...
I explain below exactly how Fr. Ivo raises the scientific illiteracy of
Goanetters who are unfortunate enough to read his posts in this thread.
Religion has
Let me state once again why Fr. Ivo's posts in this thread are compounding the
ignorance of Goanetters regarding neuroscience, and making them more
scientifically illiterate.
Fr. Ivo does not understand that science has nothing to do with the
supernatural concepts of Christianity or any other
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
What he describes as a Republican Senator's blog does,
in fact contain links to numerous sources of peer-reviewed
studies written by reputable and respected scientists who
disagree with Santosh's point of view.
The above
--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
I corrected Dr.Santosh Helekar, who quoted Dr.Mario, saying: the mystical
experiences are mediated by several brain regions and
systems, and misinterpreted the word mediated as a denial of God's
reality.
The above assertion is
The problem with the post below again is that it does not cite any original
scientific source. The only sources it cites are political and ideological in
nature. They are:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.BlogsContentRecord_id=84E9E44A-802A-23AD-493A-B35D0842FED8;
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who live in Ivory Towers and are cut off from
ground reality 'gaddha and goddha' or 'IIT and ITI' are
one and the same.
The guy seems to be fond of making up the reality of others, and
self-righteously believes
Mario Goveia wrote:
I did not even address the science of global warming as Santosh falsely
alleges.
The misconceptions regarding the science of global warming in Mario’s earlier
posts are listed at the end of this post. What is important for people to know
in that context is the
The misconceptions like the ones in the post below regarding the science of
global warming have been addressed by many reputed and responsible scientific
organizations, all of whom are in full agreement about the scientific issues
involved. In addition to the report of the U.S. National
Vinay Natekar vinaynate...@... wrote:
Do we have to believe in all the copy and paste anti Hindu materials
from various fringe sites you post on Goanet are genuine?
http://tinyurl.com/christist-attack-hindus
Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@...
--- On Fri, 2/27/09, edward desilva guirim...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Selma,
Let me put you out of your misery.
The Barra boy story is true and Reincarnation is also true,
I found no holes in it.
I guess that settles it then. Selma has no choice now but to believe in
reincarnation. How can
The U. S. National Academy of Sciences, one of the world's most prestigious
scientific organizations has provided the following update on the science
behind global warming:
http://dels.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/climate_change_2008_final.pdf
It should clarify doubts and answer basic questions
Selma,
Ian Stevenson at University of Virginia devoted his life to studying such
cases, and came up empty handed as far as proving the authenticity of the
claims is concerned. His student Satwant Pasricha continues to investigate
these anecdotes at the National Institute of Mental Health and
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
All this is due to the Uncouth, Primitive Cultured
Fascist and neo Fascists parties and communities, I dare
say.
What does this guy mean by uncouth, primitive cultured fascist and neo-fascist
communities?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Well, human activity aka greenhouse effect, is not necessarily the cause of
climate change.
The above statement is false in more than one way.
The term Greenhouse effect refers to the phenomenon wherein certain
This moral policing by Hindu extremists is appalling. I think Goan colleges
should call the real police on these guys, and make sure they are kept at least
half a kilometer away from each campus. Pre-emptive law enforcement action is
the only answer against them.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu,
--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Goanet News news.goa...@gmail.com wrote:
Third, if theology is confident of its truth and there is
still a contradiction, science must be subject to rigorous
scrutiny, especially its presuppositions and context.
This is nonsense. Theology of which religion? Why should
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza icso...@... wrote:
***I cannot answer for you, since there is no religion for
you. God is a figment of mind. Let each one search and find out.
Dialogue will help us to find out the answer.
Aren't you discriminating against me by refusing to answer my
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
But all religions cannot be equally good. They can
also be distorted. We are left with a choice.
All ways to a goal are not equally good, we choose the best
one. When there are several remedies of different trade
marks and medical
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
An institution linked to the RSS and headed by persons
associated with the
RSS is considered multipartisan. Ha ha ha!! That was a good
joke. Tell us
another one, just like the other one, tell us another one
too ..
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
U have surely 'lost the plot' much earlier, and now
I feel that U are loosing it, and that's for sure!
U know what I mean. I nor any goanettors, do not need to be
a 'Scientist' or a neurosurgeon/ scientist to
'read you',
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
Would you be kind enough to substantiate what you written
above giving references to the sources of your information?
I substantiate below my assertion that more lives are being lost from violence
based on religion, politics
I believe everything that Selma has written in her post below, and what Marlon
has said about her. My disagreement with her in my last post is limited to the
specific comment I made. I have also had a few other disagreements. But the
world would have been a dull place for me if we had agreed on
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
Without being modest I can confidently state that I can take them on any
debate. They pathetically lack knowledge of facts and rely more on
rhetoric, sarcasm, ridicule, one-upmanship and last wordism.
I did not know that
The guilts by association dug up by Marshall in the following post are very
creative and funny. The best ones are:
Prof. George Jacob, is a career academician with links with Australian
corporates and neo cons.
Mr. K.P.S. Gill http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php?title=KPS_Gill, former
Director
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Is Marshall Mendonca, fabricating news or is he reporting
news as it happens?
When one merely copies and pastes, the fabrication, if any, would have to be
done by the partisan website from which one copies. When one circulates news
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
What one sees depends on where one stands.
This appears to be an admission of bias in the conduct of this copy and paste
campaign. Given this admission, it would be good to know what people of other
perspectives have to say
This is a good start. It would be nice if we could have a balanced account from
some reliable neutral source on how Hindu, Muslim, Christian and other
religious and political forms of extremism have affected tribal societies in
India. One would like to know about all violent forces disrupting
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, marlon menezes goa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Selma,
I actually agree with your sentiments and with much of what
you say. The real issue is what concrete actions can
individuals like us, who are thousands of miles from our
motherland take?
It is good to see Marlon posting
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
The poster assumes and concludes that the above sentence applies to others
but not to himself.
This is an obvious deception. I have made no such assumption. I have stated my
biases quite clearly on many occasions. One of my
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
And who would you term a reasonably neutral observer
Santosh? Specifically which individuals on Goanet do you have in
mind and whom would you find definitely not reasonably
neutral?
Hi Roland,
Good question. On the issues
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
I may point out that by saying from what I consider
to be partisan websites, Santosh is unwittingly but clearly
betraying his own partisanship. At the very least his subjectivity, while
striving very hard to demonstrate his
Hi Sandeep,
I have seen that Stephen Knapp site. I usually avoid all such
partisan sites. I find this war between fringe websites revolting.
That is why I have serious reservations against people who peddle this type of
information in a thoughtless manner. Did you see how Vinay saw Marshall's
I don't see anything so fancy. In fact, questioning allegiance to the Pope is
an old idea that lingers among some old timers, and will die with them. What I
see is extremist political campaigners on both sides go after each other by
creating cranky rant sites that cull the news media for any
Dr. Jen wrote:
Very worried, I must say. Any goon under some pretext is able to
indulge in violence/wrongdoing and many amongst us support him.
The very fact that some of our colleagues and acquaintances are able
to justify these violent acts is a matter of concern.
This is a very serious
Two things are apparent from the following post. The Roman numerals introduced
by Selma might be appropriate to enumerate them.
I) The man is trying hard to deny that the motive behind his non-stop copy and
paste campaign is political, and
II) He seems to be oblivious of the fact that
This is what I think.
Most people of any religious community do not hate people of other
religious communities, enough to commit violence against them or
impute evil motives to them.
Those who attack, vandalize or kill others marginalize and ostracize
themselves by their actions. No normal sane
How worried do we have to be that sooner or later the majority of Indians in
Goa and other states will want to assault girls in bars and kill Christians?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet]
--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza icso...@... wrote:
Dr.Santosh can learn from me not only about Christianity but also
about the correct interpretation of neuroscientific experiments.
This is obviously a fantasy. Fr. Ivo is not capable of interpreting
neuroscientific experiments correctly
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Santosh's contention that he got this two independent sources logic
from sources too many to remember in the American news media isn't
very convincing to me.
Frederick,
It looks like you do not want to take me at
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Hartman de Souza hartman.deso...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like him to consider that I may have been somewhat over inflamed by
that reference to John, and in the process, before checking the context of
the earlier postings, mistakenly assuming he came from the far right.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I thought you said that John Dayal had a rock solid
reputation for integrity. Now you have proved the opposite,
that he did, in fact, have an anti-Israeli agenda. Tsk,
tsk, tsk. Not very professional for a news reporter to
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:
I expect more from individuals like Dr Santosh Helecar,
whose recent priorities seem to have included jumping to the rescue of
the VHPA Inc-linked Sonal Shah, to seek to discredit John Dayal and
Vijay Prashad, to question
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--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Santosh is absolutely right to be so sad at observing
intolerance though I hope he does not mean that challenging
those with opposing views represents intolerance, especially
when those views are presented in a
, 12/30/08, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
This has reference to the posting of Santosh Helekar under
the subject '.has never been communal' and Dr Barad's
doctored report on the same subject under the heading ' Confidential report
in the file'
If none of what I have pointed
President Pandurang always likes Gilbert's posts. His latest post has a lot of
uncommon wisdom - wisdom that does not make sense to the common man and woman.
But like Gilbert President Pandurang is an uncommon man. So he agrees with
Gilbert all the time. Here are the President's comments on
A critical reader would be able to tell why the post appended below and the
initial post in this thread were meant to project a one-sided biased view
against Hindu NRIs and their organizations in the U.S. Here are the reasons:
1. The author of the post gratuitously initiated this thread with
--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote:
To read more on this topic click the link provided below:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/net-closes-in-on-cong-mp-for-orissa-swamis-murder/403507/
The article copied and posted below from the above link appears to
--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
If no list entertains it ad nauseam, subscribe to the unmoderated Goenchim
Xapotam. Save Goanet from becoming another GX, since the Moderators
obviously lack the will do prevent this. I will try as long as I am
--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Many Christians today feel: To get to heaven, they do not
need the saints. A few are so smart, they do not need
Christ. There are the real smart ones who do not need God to
get to heaven after death. And then, there are
It looks like attempts are being made in this forum to show Hindu NRIs in bad
light by picking and choosing articles and excerpts from the internet, and
creating the impression that facts are being reported when no independent
responsible organizations have confirmed any of the hyperbolic
--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
I am with you on this one. Dr. Samir Kelekar seems to have
been wrongly certified secular by Dr. Selma
Carvalho, a communal practitioner herself.
The Khandhamal-Orissa issue is more about the fight for the
ST tag by a
--- In goenchimxapo...@yahoogroups.com, Sandeep Heble
sandeephe...@... wrote:
So what's the problem in that? Those who propagate religious
ideologies constantly hurt the scientific and rational sentiments
of the atheists and the non-believers. Will the preachers stop
propagating their beliefs
--- On Thu, 12/25/08, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
On this Christmas day I have to defend Samir. To my memory
he has never been communal. He was the only Hindu to
immediately condemn the Orissa violence and to my memory has
never taken a communal position in political issues.
I
--- On Thu, 12/25/08, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Next time I form an opinion in life I'll be sure to
conduct a ten-year objective study, followed by a five page
desertion.
Dear Selma,
By over forty years of subjective study I have learned that it is better to
assume people are
--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
Missionaries came to India and Goa and changed the face by
providing Gospel values.
Did people who lived in India and Goa before the missionaries came not have a
decent face? Did they not have good values?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=3176
Check the above url.
There is a good discussion on both pro and cons of why God
sucks.
I still don't understand the negative feeling towards someone else's icon. The
reasons
It is the issue that dominates most people's lives. It is the issue around
which most arguments and conflicts are going on in the world today. Without it
there would not be any political propaganda in this forum. Many forums such as
Secular Goa forum and religious forums would have to be closed
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not per se against an Indian converting from one faith
to another. If someone is not treated well in his own religion
or ceases to believe in his own religion's philosophies, ideals
and beliefs, that person should well be
I was hoping that the Supreme court would rule that conversion was legal in all
circumstances except when physical or psychological coercion or threat was
used. But it seems it has essentially banned all conversion activity now. I
fear that this would lead to more strife in areas where
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
The way the opponents of the Orissa Act argued the case, I submit, would
have given the Christians special privileges which would would violate the
principle of equality.
Dear Josebab,
Thanks for this clarification. Phew! I agree
Mario,
Thanks for those links. I will read them carefully, and see if they answer my
questions about facts in this case. But regarding your anecdote, we all have
them. I have a couple myself. One Pakistani person refused to work with me
professionally because I was Indian. This person believes
--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
Researches have suggested that coconut helps in reducing the viral load of
HIV.
No such researches have been published supporting the above assertion in the
medical literature. There is only a brief message in 1999 that a
--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote:
You have become another Jose Colaco, playing a kathakali ! Are you also
taking a law degree from Timbaktu?
Santosh your mask of an unbiased, atheist guy is off and the whole Goanet now
knows it!!!
The above angry outburst
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