On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 3:17 AM Wojciech S. Czarnecki
wrote:
> There is an emerging issue with screenshots of logs or code
> being posted
>
...
> I also urge anyone who gives their time to look at the posted picture,
> just because they can see, and who want to help a screenshot's OP
> t
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:49:54 -0700
Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> Thanks, I added a shorter version of that to the intro. I don't know
> how many people read that--certainly many people don't notice the note
> that the group is moderated--but we'll see if it helps.
Thank you. Even in that short form
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:09 AM Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote:
>
> And I petition for the go-nuts list introduction [1] to be explicit about
> screenshot attachments and about using playground for longer
> snippets of code.
Thanks, I added a shorter version of that to the intro. I don't know
how m
On Mar 12, 2019, at 7:44 AM, Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote:
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> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 23:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Lucio wrote:
>
>> It's clearly become a lot easier
>
> An that is the crux of the problem.
>
> It is so easy that it easily turns off the brain and suppress
> the last faint of thought tha
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:56:31 -0500
Robert Engels wrote:
> colored formatted text like looks like a screenshot but it is not
Neither form "looks" for the blind person. And only one reads.
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 23:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
Lucio wrote:
> It's clearly become a lot easier
An that is the crux of the problem.
It is so easy that it easily turns off the brain and suppress
the last faint of thought that text turned into the image:
* is not searchable
* can neither be edited nor
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:55:27 -0700
Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> In particular, read the "Gopher values" section.
> The approach you are taking in these messages
> is not going to encourage people to solve the problem.
Yes, indeed. I humbly apologize for the form of raising my concerns.
It was a
Quoting Lucio (2019-03-12 02:13:00)
>specially in IM, because screenshots are a lot more informative (think
>graphics) and, these days, very easily accomplished.
The context of the discussion was screenshots *of text*, so this doesn't
really apply.
>The CoC should penalise only wanto
On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:04:03 UTC+2, kortschak wrote:
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> There is an increasing culture of this in many places. Many students
> often post screen shots in place of reproducers and textual error. I
> invariably reply that they need to post code and text. I am not sure I
> am winning here.
My approach to dealing with these it that I set my mail client to text
only display. This means that I see plain text where IDE coloured text
is pasted, and I don't see images unless I go out of my way to do so.
Dan
On Mon, 2019-03-11 at 08:36 -0500, Robert Engels wrote:
> I think you are confusi
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 5:22 AM Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote:
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> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:39:40 -0400
> Sameer Ajmani wrote:
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> > I believe calling fellow community members lazy or incompetent
> > violates our Code of Conduct.
>
> Q.E.D.
>
> > Please endeavor to restate your concern in a way that
Right, I understood what you were saying, but the fact is people *are*
posting *screenshots* to the list.
(I imagine others are *also* pasting from an IDE, but like you say a
screen reader should have no trouble with those, so I assume a blind
user wouldn't even notice anything off about those mes
That’s not exactly what I meant. I meant that copy and pasting from an IDE will
often result in colored formatted text like looks like a screenshot but it is
not, and a screen reader should have no problem with it.
> On Mar 11, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Ian Denhardt wrote:
>
> Quoting Robert Engels
Quoting Robert Engels (2019-03-11 09:36:40)
> I think you are confusing screenshots and copy and paste as html. The latter
> works with screen readers and still gives colored text because most likely
> the person is using an IDE.
I suspect Wojciech is not confusing these two, seeing as just now
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:11:32 +0100
Reto Brunner wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 07:46:27PM +0700, Shulhan wrote:
> > I like to read email before sleep, keeping up-to-date with recent
> > discussion and what not.
>
> How are you able to cope with mailing lists?
> I find list messages seriously
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 1:02:54 PM UTC+1, Reto Brunner wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 04:36:32AM -0700, Manlio Perillo wrote:
> > I consider polite to use the interleaved reply style and to trim the
> > original message as much as possible. It requires time and thinking,
> > something
I think you are confusing screenshots and copy and paste as html. The latter
works with screen readers and still gives colored text because most likely the
person is using an IDE.
> On Mar 11, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:39:40 -0400
> Sameer Ajman
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 07:46:27PM +0700, Shulhan wrote:
> I like to read email before sleep, keeping up-to-date with recent discussion
> and what not.
How are you able to cope with mailing lists?
I find list messages seriously unreadable with the gmail app, due to the lack
of threading.
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:02:28 +0100
Reto Brunner wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 04:36:32AM -0700, Manlio Perillo wrote:
> > I consider polite to use the interleaved reply style and to trim the
> > original message as much as possible. It requires time and
> > thinking, something that seems to b
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:39:40 -0400
Sameer Ajmani wrote:
> I believe calling fellow community members lazy or incompetent
> violates our Code of Conduct.
Q.E.D.
> Please endeavor to restate your concern in a way that doesn't insult others.
> I expect they simply do not know why sending screensh
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 04:36:32AM -0700, Manlio Perillo wrote:
> I consider polite to use the interleaved reply style and to trim the
> original message as much as possible. It requires time and thinking,
> something that seems to be rare nowadays.
And yet you are right now also not doing it, ad
I would say lack of culture.
One of the thing I don't like with golang-nuts is that there is not an
unique quoting rule.
People here use both top and bottom posting. Coming from usenet I feel a
bit uncomfortable like now when I'm replying to this thread.
I consider polite to use the interleave
There is an increasing culture of this in many places. Many students
often post screen shots in place of reproducers and textual error. I
invariably reply that they need to post code and text. I am not sure I
am winning here.
Dan
On Mon, 2019-03-11 at 11:17 +0100, Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote:
> T
There is an emerging issue with screenshots of logs or code
being posted to the programming mail lists just because posters
either are too incompetent to learn how to copy/paste text,
or are too lazy to mark relevant parts and then press a few
keys more than PrtSc. Meanwhile asking others to give t
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