Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-08 Thread Miles T.
So GWT distribution includes JFreeChart which is LGPL. Problem would be here, Allan, something wrong related to section 4 of the license ? On 8 avr, 07:15, Ian Petersen ispet...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Ian Petersen ispet...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miles T.
On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel Berlin daniel.ber...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: The LGPL does not require source, it is only one of a myriad of options to comply with it. I think (but not sure) I've read somewhere a discussion with a FSF guy saying that

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miles T.
It says : Could not locate 'about.html' in installation directory. :-p On 7 avr, 13:10, Miguel Ping miguel.p...@gmail.com wrote: Just click the 'about' button on the hosted mode browser (the bg window) On Apr 7, 9:43 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miguel Ping
Just click the 'about' button on the hosted mode browser (the bg window) On Apr 7, 9:43 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel Berlin daniel.ber...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: The LGPL does not require source, it is

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Hanson
There is also an about.txt[html] with the GWT distribution. Here are the notable bits: | This product includes software developed by: | - The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). |- Tomcat (http://tomcat.apache.org/) with modifications |- Tapestry

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread ginger_ninja
What a farce. Who cares if it violates the LGPL (besides perhaps RMS)? GWT is release under the Apache v2.0 License. The two are completely separate from each other. About the only common heritage they share is the fact that they're OSI approved. On Apr 8, 12:18 am, Robert Hanson

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:32 PM, ginger_ninja david.s.k...@gmail.com wrote: What a farce. Who cares if it violates the LGPL (besides perhaps RMS)? That's a ridiculous comment. Because GWT is released under the Apache license, I don't understand how this conversation even got started but if,

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Bambury
I know *nothing* about licensing, but I've been following this, and I apologise if it's a stupid question but... If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it isn't released under? Ian

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Vitali Lovich
The original question was whether or not GWT was in violation of the LGPL, which it would only be if GWT utilized a LGPL component without following the license. At that point, RMS would not care (or at least, would not be in a position to do anything about it). The only people at that point

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Bambury ianbamb...@gmail.com wrote: If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it isn't released under? I think you've just summarized the irrelevance of

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Ian Petersen ispet...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Bambury ianbamb...@gmail.com wrote: If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it

GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread allan
LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in an offer, made available to the public for 3 years. You cannot fulfill the obligation by pointing to a 3rd party download site for the source. Go ask Cisco and

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread thebuz...@gmail.com
Last time i checked the source code is with the binary. everything is in the jar files. On Apr 6, 1:27 pm, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in an offer, made

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in an offer, made available to the public for 3 years. No, this is true of works using the GPL, but not of

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Ian Petersen
Isn't GWT released under the Apache license? I don't think it's possible for GWT to violate the GPL. Of course, I'm not a lawyer Ian On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary distributions. Source can

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Daniel Jue
You've stated some very bold claims. How did you become so convinced of this violation and the need to address it? Are you the Beginning Rails author? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM, allan allan1...@gmail.com wrote: LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Vitali Lovich
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ian Petersen ispet...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't GWT released under the Apache license?  I don't think it's possible for GWT to violate the GPL.  Of course, I'm not a lawyer Yes it s released as Apache. Of course it's possible for it to violate the GPL (it