Re: [Gregorio-users] psalms singing

2013-06-21 Thread Herman Viaene
On 20/06/13 20:50, Boris Maire wrote: Dear all, I do not want to hurt anyone. My filling is that singing psalms is very simple from the melody point of view. We should not need any material to learn the tones. I do not understand people who cannot sing a psalm in their own language. In my

Re: [Gregorio-users] Brainstorming about ancient chant notation

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
Dear Pierre, For roman antiphonale. Current situation is catastrophic. There is no more rithmic information in current edition of roman antiphonale, and no neumatic data as in graduel triplex is available That's very interesting, I note it in the why section of the future document. I

Re: [Gregorio-users] Brainstorming about ancient chant notation

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
Le 21/06/2013 00:17, Grzegorz Rolek a écrit : Dear Élie, please do so eventually, if only for few theoretical insights in this field. Quite an ambitious project, I must say. Maybe to ambitious, with the approach being maybe to general to be of any practical use these days. If there's one thing

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Herman Viaene
On 21/06/13 02:59, Br. Athanasius wrote: I think that Gregorio would be far more complete and user-friendly if there was a gui. Although everyone, and I do mean everyone on the list has been exceptionally helpful with any question I have had regarding installation and usage but I think that

Re: [Gregorio-users] Two features I'd like.

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
Dear Michael, 1. The ability to align multiple lines of text in normal type under the neums - for example, every two lines of a Sequence that use the same melody (and with that the ability to do a brace over the text, and a repeat sign in the staff); or simply for a hymn. With people

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
Dear Brother, Le 21/06/2013 02:59, Br. Athanasius a écrit : I think that Gregorio would be far more complete and user-friendly if there was a gui. Although everyone, and I do mean everyone on the list has been exceptionally helpful with any question I have had regarding installation and usage

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Pierre Couderc
There are very distinct points : - easyness of installation of gregorio - use of gregorio : now there are 2 ways to use gregorio : LaTex and Scribus. People who wants to use gregorio must invest in one of these 2 ways. It must be thought of other ones, for exmple, I have used with big success,

Re: [Gregorio-users] psalms singing

2013-06-21 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2013/6/21 Herman Viaene herman.via...@edpnet.be Well, my experience - but it is mine, and I cannot extrapolate - is that the people I get interested in singing gregorian are all people that had some musical education, and therefore are used at singing from full scores. Having to look

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
I feel that GUI, more than that we have now, is not a good idea(1), but what I am sure, is that a GUI is another project. This is indeed a very important point: Gregorio will never integrate a GUI, it will maybe enable facilities to create one, but, as a Linux user, I always remember the Unix

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Olivier Berten
That said, jgabc http://code.google.com/p/jgabc/ used in http://www.illuminarepublications.com/gregorio/ can play the score so maybe a first step into a GUI could be to wrap it into some Webkit widget or just a chrome web app like

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Pierre François
On 06/21/2013 11:09 AM, Élie Roux wrote: The aim of Gregorio is to create beautiful scores, and I think it does it better and better. A GUI can be added on top, but not mixed with it. I fully agree with Élie. -- Father Pierre FRANÇOIS (http://www.romanliturgy.org) Bosmanslei 16 B-2018

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4 (slight rant)

2013-06-21 Thread Jacques Peron
+1 too… 2013/6/21 Johannes Roeßler j...@joei.de +1 from me :) +1 Le 21/06/2013 11:40, Pierre François a écrit : On 06/21/2013 11:09 AM, Élie Roux wrote: The aim of Gregorio is to create beautiful scores, and I think it does it better and better. A GUI can be added on top, but not

Re: [Gregorio-users] Suggested aim for 2.4: another idea

2013-06-21 Thread Élie Roux
Dear Alexandres, I think this is a very good idea, there is some work that need to be done on this side, and it will be a very good first step. We'll see how things evolve, but this could very well reach 2.4. Thank you, -- Elie ___ Gregorio-users

Re: [Gregorio-users] Brainstorming about ancient chant notation

2013-06-21 Thread Boris Maire
Dear all, singing the Liturgy of the Hours in parish presents another problem than just knowing how to sing gregorian from the Antiphonale Romanum. Think of that : until 1980, the Antiphonale was realised BEFORE the books with only a reading version. But, since the last Council, the books for

[Gregorio-users] Suggestions on GUI

2013-06-21 Thread David Gippner
Dear all, as I see, the things round Gregorio speed up a lot in the last days/weeks. It would be very interesting for me, too, to have the ancient neumes included as proposed. As for now, I don't have much time to spend on NotatioAntiqua, but I think it would be possible to improve it (perhaps

[Gregorio-users] gregowiki has moved to a new server

2013-06-21 Thread Richard Chonak
Dear Friends of Gregorio! To make the use of the Gregorio Wiki more convenient, I have rebuilt it on my server with a new domain name. You can reach the GregoWiki at http://gregoriochant.org Pierre Couderc has kindly given me the materials from the site he has built so far, and I have