Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Alvaro Retana
Job: Hi! You and I already talked before the meeting, but just for the WG… Yes, we should talk. As I mentioned, idr is also in the process of rechartering, so this would be a great time to be in sync. Thanks!! Alvaro. On November 22, 2019 at 12:13:17 PM, Job Snijders (j...@ntt.net) wrote:

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Alvaro, Thank you for your comments. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 07:42:05PM -0800, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > Finally, where appropriate, the GROW documents the operational > > aspects of measurement, monitoring, policy, security, and VPN > > infrastructures, and safe default behavior of

[GROW] Information model for BGP Communities (Was: Proposed updates to GROW charter)

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Forking this thread. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:44:26AM +, thomas.g...@swisscom.com wrote: > Very good input regarding „Devise a BGP Community Description System > to IESG. > > I think a YANG informational BGP community modell might be the right > thing to do. I would volunteer to support

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Job, Very good input regarding „Devise a BGP Community Description System to IESG. I think a YANG informational BGP community modell might be the right thing to do. I would volunteer to support such an approach. I think it is good to keep the charter generic. I like your proposal. I would

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Alvaro Retana
On November 22, 2019 at 9:44:18 AM, Job Snijders wrote: Job: Hi! I have a couple of comments. ... > Finally, where appropriate, the GROW documents the operational aspects > of measurement, monitoring, policy, security, and VPN infrastructures, > and safe default behavior of implementations.

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:19:06AM +0800, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 09:38:03AM +0800, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > I'd say: "Sure, make a protobuf definition, provide a common toolset > > > to parse to/from

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 09:38:03AM +0800, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > I'd say: "Sure, make a protobuf definition, provide a common toolset > > to parse to/from this, evangelize that to the networks you care to > > interconnect with" > >

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:58 AM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:44:03AM +, Job Snijders wrote: > > Goals > > * Provide stewardship and maintenance for the Multi-Threaded Routing > > Toolkit (MRT) > > I think you may wish to narrow the scope of this to the file format of

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:44:03AM +, Job Snijders wrote: > Goals > * Provide stewardship and maintenance for the Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit > (MRT) I think you may wish to narrow the scope of this to the file format of that name. I don't really believe you intend that the working group

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 09:38:03AM +0800, Christopher Morrow wrote: > I'd say: "Sure, make a protobuf definition, provide a common toolset > to parse to/from this, evangelize that to the networks you care to > interconnect with" > seems great to me. Protobufs is a weak schema language. Stick to

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, Below is a revision of the charter proposal. Kind regards, Job Charter for GROW Working Group === The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is fundamental to the operation of the Internet. In recent years, occurrences of BGP related operational issues have

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:51 AM Job Snijders wrote: > > Dear all, > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 07:21:13PM +, Job Snijders wrote: > > Milestones > > == > > > > Jan 2020 - "Support for Local RIB in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)" to IESG > > Feb 2020 - "BMP Peer Up Message Namespace" to

Re: [GROW] Agenda and Slides

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
ok, we now have all slides :) thanks everyone! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:47 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > > > Howdy Grow Folks! > > The agenda > > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/agenda-106-grow-01) > > This

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 07:21:13PM +, Job Snijders wrote: > Milestones > == > > Jan 2020 - "Support for Local RIB in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)" to IESG > Feb 2020 - "BMP Peer Up Message Namespace" to IESG > Apr 2020 - "Revision to Registration Procedures for Multiple

Re: [GROW] Agenda and Slides

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:47 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Howdy Grow Folks! > The agenda > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/agenda-106-grow-01) This is still the agenda > has 4 presentations on deck, of which I see only 1 set of slides so far... > if you are to present