Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-21 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
Dept. NW) > > Cc: grow@ietf.org; Brian Dickson > Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: > draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt > > > > > > > In the BGP Update received from the eBGP peer, the eBGP peer has > > already placed the local AS number in th

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
rian Dickson > Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: > draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt > > > > > > > In the BGP Update received from the eBGP peer, the eBGP peer has already > > placed the local AS number in the > > > AS-PATH. Thus,

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-18 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 6:05 PM To: Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) Cc: grow@ietf.org; Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt > In the BGP Update received f

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
.net] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:38 AM > *To:* Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) < > guyu...@huawei.com> > *Cc:* grow@ietf.org; Brian Dickson > *Subject:* Re: [GROW] I-D Action: > draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt > > > > *> It

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-18 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
Hi Robert, Please see inline. From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:38 AM To: Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) Cc: grow@ietf.org; Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
rom:* GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:31 PM > *To:* Brian Dickson > *Cc:* grow@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [GROW] I-D Action: > draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt > > > > Hi Brian, > >

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-15 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt Hi Brian, Yes CAIDA has been an excellent source of data and tools for anyone concerned about Internet topology or BGP operation. It can also accurately detect a lot of anomalies and report them based

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-14 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Brian, Yes CAIDA has been an excellent source of data and tools for anyone concerned about Internet topology or BGP operation. It can also accurately detect a lot of anomalies and report them based on the comparison of historical data vs real time data (for example ARTEMIS). But the proposed

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Brian Dickson
CAIDA has lots of data sets, tools, etc. Here's one of the README files I grabbed, with some URLs that would help you find the specifics, and reference materials (papers) on what/why/how they are able to infer these relationships. Brian The 'serial-2' directory contains AS relationships that

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
Ahh no - I should have said first hop ISP for eBGP connected end customers. I was not talking about validating Comcast uplinks - for those indeed origin validation and when it ever get's seriously implemented BGP path validation may be rigth solutions. This draft to the best of my understanding

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread heasley
Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 04:30:08PM +0100, Robert Raszuk: > In general of course. > > I was just describing the *local ISP customer's* inbound peering policy. > Sorry if that wasn't clear. by "local ISP", do you mean Comcast? :) For a very small provider, existing policy language could be

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
In general of course. I was just describing the *local ISP customer's* inbound peering policy. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Or do you see that even that has some limitations which may require extra solutions ? If so pls elaborate on what those limitations are. Thx. R. On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread heasley
Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 02:30:14PM +0100, Robert Raszuk: > Each decently managed AS today has strong EBGP ingress policy permitting > only specific prefixes with specific AS-PATH which is applied in ingress to > ISP network. No more enhancement to this policy is required. I'm NOT speaking in support

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Yu Tianpeng
Hi Robert, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for the comment! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan]. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
;> >>> Thanks a lot for the comment! >>> >>> >>> >>> Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan]. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Shunwan >>> >>> >>> >>> &g

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Yu Tianpeng
;> >> >> Thanks a lot for the comment! >> >> >> >> Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan]. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Shunwan >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] *On Beha

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
> Thanks a lot for the comment! > > > > Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan]. > > > > Best Regards, > > Shunwan > > > > > > *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:48 AM > *

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-13 Thread Zhuangshunwan
Hi Robert, Thanks a lot for the comment! Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan]. Best Regards, Shunwan From: GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:48 AM To: grow@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt

2019-03-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Dear authors of draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection, The draft says: " At this point, AS 200 *can lookup the local resource database* and check whether there is a real AS relationship between the local AS and the left AS and the right AS" Can you please share a pointer to any