RE: [h-cost] lacing

2005-09-14 Thread otsisto
-Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I should add that I use a non-historically accurate (for MY time period) cross-lacing, and not the spiral lacing, which I really do intend to try at some point. Really. ;o) * Umm, I don't know your time period but late 1400s

[h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 04:03 14/09/2005, you wrote: I wonder if the green thread is related to the old use of green as the color of mourning (long before black)... because green grass grows on the grave. Gytha Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I worked for the local

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Suzi Clarke
A couple more: (1) It's unlucky to baste anything with green thread. (Green is supposed to be a generally unlucky color anyway.) IIRC (and it was a LONG time ago) I think my grandmother actually told me this one. (2) It's unlucky for anyone to sew or mend clothing while someone is

Re: [h-cost] *eský Krumlov Castle, ph oto buffet

2005-09-14 Thread Kate M Bunting
What fantastic pictures - love the theatre - the bears are cute too. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/09/2005 01:44 www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/seznamy/t_obrzam.htm Stumbled across this site while looking for something else. Appears to be a Czechoslovakian

[h-cost] Re: At Long Last- the QE2!

2005-09-14 Thread Catherine Kinsey
Just lovely Karen! And I think your crown is a good choice in keeping with the portraits of QE you found. I have the site bookmarked for the cartridge pleating info, have a project this winter that will require it, thanks. Catherine Wooo Hooo Calontir :)

[h-cost] Re: lacing and clothing superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread Catherine Kinsey
(2) It's unlucky for anyone to sew or mend clothing while someone is actually wearing it. But the person wearing the clothing can avert evil consequences by holding a piece of thread between their teeth while the sewing is going on. (Can't remember where I saw this, but it was relatively recent.)

[h-cost] Re: trousers vs. hose

2005-09-14 Thread tearoses
Thanks for your replies. I was looking for the modern usage, I guess. I was reading something that said that trousers were introduced to Europe by northern barbarians sometime after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, and I remembered we'd just had a discussion about some early extant

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Land of Oz
Even worse luck to iron something on a live body, and the thread between the teeth doesn't help there. ahhh...so *that* is why the instructions that come with an iron actually specify Do Not Attempt to Iron Garments While Being Worn! Silly me, I thought it was common sense safety...

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Cynthia J Ley
but, if you wear a garment inside out, it protects you from the faeries! Arlys And another one . If you put on a garment inside out (usually a vest/t-shirt, or knickers/underpants) you shouldn't change it, as that too would be bad luck. Too bad if it was trousers or pants!! Suzi

RE: [h-cost] Re: lacing and clothing superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread otsisto
This sounds like a semi practical thing. Like using spit to smooth a cowlick then a superstition. -Original Message- ... I ran into a superstition about hems flipping up at the edges somewhere in a book. Have you ever heard of that one? The character in the book had to spit on it before

[h-cost] RE: Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread McClure, Kate
Actually, the original lore to wearing clothing inside out and fairies has to do with weird sod. *snip* Um . . . Weird sod? A definition, please? Kate McClure Who may have gardened in such . . . ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Re: lacing and clothing superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread lists
From: Chris Laning (2) It's unlucky for anyone to sew or mend clothing while someone is actually wearing it. But the person wearing the clothing can avert evil consequences by holding a piece of thread between their teeth while the sewing is going on. (Can't remember where I saw this, but it was

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Penny Ladnier
I too have stitched several actors into their costumes before going on stage. You do want you can in a hurry. Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-14 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
steel hoop boning over here doesn't hold the tips well either. I have found that the spiral steel corset boning holds the tips well if you use a particular method of attaching themdon't know if you saw the link to my tutorial earlier. Sg Could you repost it please? I didn't need it at

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Penny Ladnier wrote: I too have stitched several actors into their costumes before going on stage. You do want you can in a hurry. ... and it's a lot better than superglue and staples. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Such virtue hath my pen -Shakespeare, Sonnet 81

Re: [h-cost] trousers vs. hose

2005-09-14 Thread Debloughcostumes
Got to be quick as in hurry (as ever)! I'd consider it to be a difference in the construction method, as trousers are actually cut quite differently to hosen (esp the 15th / 16th cent. variety). A couple of costume historians have suf=ggested that the construction of what we'd call trousers

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread jordana robinson
On 9/14/05, Land of Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahhh...so *that* is why the instructions that come with an iron actually specify Do Not Attempt to Iron Garments While Being Worn! Silly me, I thought it was common sense safety... at my old job, one of my coworkers confessed that the mark on

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Jean Waddie
Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote At 16:23 14/09/2005, you wrote: Even worse luck to iron something on a live body, and the thread between the teeth doesn't help there. ahhh...so *that* is why the instructions that come with an iron actually specify Do Not Attempt to Iron Garments

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
jordana robinson wrote: from his attempt to iron the collar of his shirt while he was wearing it. I actually watched a person try to drive with one of those cardboard windshield sun things still on the car. He/She had bent down a corner to peer out.

Re: [h-cost] Re: lacing and clothing superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread Ann Catelli
It's unlucky to sew with green, because green dyes were notorious for coming off onto your garment or project. I have some green silk with just that problem--the thread is long gone, but there's a great ugly dark green splotch where it used to be. Never got wet, just crocking. I wouldn't baste

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Penny Ladnier
Cynthia, I am guilty of stapling a hem when an actor needs to get on stage real quick. I have taped a bodice of a gown to a model. It helps with very low cut dress. Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume

Re: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Penny Ladnier wrote: I am guilty of stapling a hem when an actor needs to get on stage real quick. I was trying to be amusing -- sorry it wasn't clear. But don't staples really mess up the fabric? Pulls and such? cv ___ h-costume mailing list

RE: [h-cost] Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread otsisto
Actually, the original lore to wearing clothing inside out and fairies has to do with weird sod. If you step on weird sod you will walk forever, the way to break the spell once you figured out you stepped on weird sod is to turn your clothing inside out (usually it is just the jacket). One lore in

[h-cost] Clothing Superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread Julie
Hmmm.. I've touched up a hem while I was wearing it. Maybe I should have spat on it instead G Julie Even worse luck to iron something on a live body, and the thread between the teeth doesn't help there. Not that I tried it myself.

RE: [h-cost] lacing

2005-09-14 Thread otsisto
Actually, they lace each other. Meaning that instead of the lace going to the loop on the other side it uses the oppose lace as the loop. Does that make sense? De -Original Message- Just a comment on an interesting thing that I have just noticed about this portrait :

Re: [h-cost] Sewing on the body...

2005-09-14 Thread Suzi Clarke
Ok, here is a question - this has been in letters sent to Ann Landers Dear Abby in the past. A woman starts a new job (usually as a secretary) and the boss (male of course) either learns or assumes that she sews. He asks her to mend his trousers, a crotch seam, while he is wearing

Re: [h-cost] Clothing Superstitions

2005-09-14 Thread Penny Ladnier
Julie, It makes me wonder if a straightening iron for hair would work for last minute hem pressing? Maybe I will try it in a rush one day. I have ironed some full-skirt hems while a few actresses and models were wearing them. If you have confidence in what you are doing and the

Re: [h-cost] Sewing on the body...

2005-09-14 Thread Shane Sheridan
No, not at all, it's complete superstitious nonsense. Elderly relatives will claim it causes huge blisters and worse, but there is no real cause effect. :-) Ok, here is a question - this has been in letters sent to Ann Landers Dear Abby in the past. A woman starts a new job

Re: [h-cost] lacing

2005-09-14 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 6:30 am, Joannah Hansen wrote: Just a comment on an interesting thing that I have just noticed about this portrait : http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/earlyflor/3flor5.html - it looks to me as if the criss-cross lacing isn't just crossed over,

RE: [h-cost] RE: Clothing superstitions (and theatre)

2005-09-14 Thread otsisto
It was believed that you were taking a chance stepping off commonly traversed paths to say, take a short cut, because you might step on weird sod or enchanted piece of ground. Upon stepping on the weird sod your sense of distance and direction is a skewed and you continue walking and you may even

[h-cost] looking for:

2005-09-14 Thread Shane Sheridan
I'm hoping someone here can help me. I am looking for an online source for a ladies high heeled Oxford shoe. Zappos had, but they do not ship to Canada, and the price was a bit above what I wanted to pay (including shipping and exchange). Any ideas are greatfully accepted! :-) Sheridan

Re: [h-cost] trousers vs. hose

2005-09-14 Thread Dawn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like your expert opinions on what the official difference is between trousers and leggings or hose. Is it just that trousers aren't as fitted in the legs? Or are trousers one piece while leggings are two? Trousers are a loose fitting garment typically