Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Käthe Barrows
Assuming some influence from both sides of the merger, what would the resulting mixed-race culture have worn, several hundred years in?  If, for example, there were a Vinlander GFD, what would it have looked like?  What would the men wear in cold weather?  What kind of shoes would people

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Schaeffer, Astrida
I've been wondering-- and maybe this is something that is obvious to others, just that I've not really focused on Viking or Russian clothing. I was looking at a Russian lacquer box showing a young woman and saw the lovely dress (sarafan?) she wore and it hit me-- that's a Viking apron dress!

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Käthe Barrows
Is the sarafan a relative of the apron dress?? I don't think so. It has sides, and, in its recent configurations, it has straps sewn right on. They're wide apart in front and close together in back. And the garment doesn't seem to go back farther than the 1600s (I tried researching one for SCA

[h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Alexandria Doyle
I had a very frustrating time of trying to locate some items this weekend to show to a newcomer and have had it with the disorganization of my costumes, my sewing and assorted art supplies and tools. When I moved into my house I had a sewing room, then children moved home and things were packed

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Kimiko Small
Greetings Alex. I also face the same issue with heat and storage of some of my items. My current solution is simply to number the box (with a wide sharpie marker), and then keep an inventory either on my computer, or in a binder (I have a very thick fabric binder). The inventory list can then

[h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread Tracy Thallas
Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread Käthe Barrows
I'm guessing it's a Bronzino painting. You might try Googling on Bronzinoand looking at the images. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.net wrote:  Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/   Picked

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Sharon Collier
If you get translucent bins, you can slip a piece of card stock down between the side of the bin and the stuff in the bin. The stuff holds it tight to the bin, so you can read it. If opaque, hang a piece of muslin over the lip of the bin, with whatever is in the bin written on the muslin with a

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread monica spence
Maybe from his workshop, I would guess it is probably not from the master's hand. Monica Spence PS- I have it too in my files, it just says Florentine. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday,

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread otsisto
Agnolo Bronzino: Portrait of a Lady Museo e Gallerie Nazionali di Capodimonte, Napoli Clearer pic can be found http://festiveattyre.com/research/secondflor/secflor5.html or realm of venus. Not much else online is said about it. maybe someone with a book on Florentine fashion. -Original

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread Tracy Thallas
Thanks, everybody! (Someone on this list always knows everything! :-) ) Googling Bronzino and School of Bronzino found me lots of other fun stuff to squirrel away (and I noted the details this time!) and the Festive Attyre pic is beautifully clear for the bit I want. About the only other

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread Käthe Barrows
   About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that!  Thanks! OK, so what were the dates on the other ones with the same dress? That should get it within 10 years either way. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread Tracy Thallas
Yup. And a decade (1540s or whatever) is plenty close enough for my needs! (Though someday I would also love to have a facsimile of that dress) Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Sigrid Briansdotter
My Grandmother used to staple a plastic ziplock bag over the edge of the box with the opening down and loose. She'd then put a card in the ziplock bag with whatever the contents currently were. Regards, Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Schaeffer, Astrida
I thought current thinking is that the apron dress has sides as well. But not having the sarafan before 1600 would squash that theory... Thanks! Astrida From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Monday 28 September 2009 3:50:13 pm Käthe Barrows wrote: Is the sarafan a relative of the apron dress?? I don't think so. It has sides, and, in its recent configurations, it has straps sewn right on. They're wide apart in front and close together in back. And the garment doesn't seem to

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread w igmore
That is a brillant idea! Much better than mine of taping card stock to front or in the inside. Elizabeta --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Schaeffer, Astrida
If you're storing the tubs in temperature extremes, you might need to consider the stability of the plastic and its outgassing effects on the contents. Just a word of caution from the textile conservation side of things... Astrida -Original

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Alexandria Doyle
Except I already have the tubs, and most are opaque. I wonder how attractive the flap of muslin would be to cats that crawl through everything alex On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: If you get translucent bins, you can slip a piece of card stock down

Re: [h-cost] ORGANIZATION

2009-09-28 Thread Alexandria Doyle
Most of what I have to store in the garage isn't what I'd consider of a quality to be concerned with the long term effect. My second project is going to making sachets to go into the tubs. Somewhere sometime someone gave me one and this past weekend I found the tub with it, it was really nice.

[h-cost] Sarafan and Apron Dress....Was: Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Wicked Frau
I happened to come across this sitehttp://www.vikinganswerlady.com/varangians.shtmla few months ago after I had decided to get around to finishing this doll http://www.smallwork.com/babayaga.html: Just before resuming work I happened to have made my first Viking dress. I am by no means an expert

Re: [h-cost] Sarafan and Apron Dress....Was: Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Maggie
The Vikings made some serious incursions into Ireand in the middle ages. Dublin and Cork are both Viking cities (built by conscripted irish labor). The relationship in clothing is left as an exercise for the student. ;-) MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603

Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)

2009-09-28 Thread otsisto
about 1530-32 -Original Message-  About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that!  Thanks! OK, so what were the dates on the other ones with the same dress? That should get it within 10 years either way.

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

2009-09-28 Thread Elena House
I can definitely see that typical colonial reaction of anything from the homeland being better, but sheer scarcity would surely lead the colonists to make use of what's around them. I'm also thinking, though, about the many types of native clothing that European frontiersmen adopted, and how