[h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
Here's a question for those (like me) old-timers out there. I may be going to a 1960s hippies style event and if so, need to wear a costume. My recollection isn't so good. Remember what they said: If you can remember it, you weren't really there?Anyhow, I'm trying to remember when

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2009-07-04 Thread Patricia Dunham
Kimiko, I'm very very sorry that you perceived my response as being jumped on, it certainly, absolutely wasn't meant personally. I apologize for my clumsy writing. Yours just happened to be the post that brought the subject up again, so it's the one I responded to... I probably should have

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Lynn Downward
Vogue Patterns offered the Rudi Gernrich dress in 1968. This was the high waisted dress, either mini or full-length. was an ikon in S.F. as I remember. It had the square neck, elastic under the bust, across the square neck and from bust to back at the sleeve. Sleeve was long and flowing. That

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2009-07-04 Thread Frank A Thallas Jr
I remember that dress - that was THE dress where I grew up. Either so short your personality showed, or so long it dragged on the ground if you weren't careful... Some girls wore the mini or a knee-length version over bellbottoms. Wow, man, flashbacks. Liadain Mercy I'm

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2009-07-04 Thread Käthe Barrows
I guess my husband and I are just stuffy, but we do get tired of people (in general, not you specifically) trying to justify all sorts of modern things as having period antecedents, so why not use the modern thing. This Pillbox terminology thing just pushed all our buttons in that area, I

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2009-07-04 Thread Rickard, Patty
So I'll go away and lurk again, because I can't seem to talk tactfully enough not to cause upsets, no matter how hard I try. It's always happening, has done forever, it's me and not anyone else. chimene I think it's called email - We are such visual folks, if we can't see the face body

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2009-07-04 Thread Rickard, Patty
Wow, man, flashbacks. Liadain Mercy I'm ollld No, no, no... so col. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

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2009-07-04 Thread Betsy Marshall
Oh, fess up; how many of you thought you'd live to see 2000, much less 2010? And where's my flying car; gosh darn it!?!? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Rickard, Patty Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 6:33 AM To:

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2009-07-04 Thread Regina Voorhes
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Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Anne Moeller
Oh gawd!! I still have the patterns I used back then! I even have 2 of my favorite bell bottoms!! Who would have thought that the clothes I wore everyday would become an historical costume, for pete's sake!! Anne On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net wrote: Here's

[h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread purplkat
I am thinking of branching out into early US Civil War, and I was told that 'the easist thing to make is the Garibaldi shirt'. However there were no examples around for anyone to show me. And no reference book/website for them to point me to. Can you please share a pic / web site / pattern

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Hope Greenberg
Ah, what fun. I know by the early 70s I had several long dresses for casual wear, but when did the trend start? Well, here are two factoids that might help: In the late 60s Laura Ashley introduced daywear that had a longer length. (see any history of Laura Ashley, wikipedia will do) And my

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread Käthe Barrows
Google on Garibaldi, then on garibaldi shirt. There are commercial patterns. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:37 AM, purpl...@optonline.net wrote: I am thinking of branching out into early US Civil War, and I was told that 'the easist thing to make is the Garibaldi shirt'. However there were no

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Margo Anderson
I remember my older brother's Cool Girlfriend wearing long dresses when I was in 8th grade, in 1971. By the time I was in high school, a year later, the pattern companies were showing most of their teen oriented dresses in both mini and long lengths. And then there were the long skirts

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Betsy Marshall
Umm.. isn't that what historical costume is? Naturally you don't really expect it to happen in your life time, but the rate of change for Fashion does seem to be increasing... -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Anne

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Heather Rose Jones
On Jul 4, 2009, at 12:06 AM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: Here's a question for those (like me) old-timers out there. I may be going to a 1960s hippies style event and if so, need to wear a costume. My recollection isn't so good. Remember what they said: If you can remember it, you weren't

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Frank A Thallas Jr
Heh. Thanks, at least my grandkids think so! ;-) Of course nowadays you can't walk through any clothing store without seeing something on the racks that I already wore 40!!! years ago, so Granny's wardrobe is pretty kewl. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread Carolann Schmitt
Sometimes what someone tells us is not the best information. :-) The 'classic' women's Garibaldi shirt c.1860-1865 was made from lightweight red wool flannel embroidered in black in scroll patterns. It is cut very full and gathered into a waistband (worn over the waistband of the skirt), with

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread Rickard, Patty
This is not directly an answer to your question, but it is the sort of thing I would appreciate hearing about before I made something - take it or leave it as you choose. I am not a Civil War reenactor, so I do not know how to evaluate this source, but I have a special edition of The Citizen's

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread Carolann Schmitt
The article in the August 2006 edition of The Citizen's Companion is a reprint of an article Karen Crocker originally researched over a dozen years ago. Karen will readily agree continuing research indicates there are portions of that article that are not quite correct. Karen's comments

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread maddnancy
Given Barbara Michaels' interest in vintage clothing and textiles?(Shattered Silk), I think she'd get a kick out of knowing that one of her books was cited on this list! Nancy Message: 6 Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:44:14 -0400 From: Hope Greenberg hope.greenb...@uvm.edu Subject: Re: [h-cost]

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Sharon Collier
I remember that we were not allowed to wear long skirts to high school in the year 1968-69. A friend of mine wore one and was called into the Principal's office and told, Do not wear that skirt to school again. The next day she wore another long skirt to school. Again she was called into the

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I went to high school before the hippie craze hit, so no one even thought of wearing either long skirts or pants. Girls were still trying to dress like the perfect little woman with girdles, heels and stockings, although we only went that far for special occasions, not to school, but you

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2009-07-04 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/4/2009 1:29:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, be...@softwareinnovation.com writes: but the rate of change for Fashion does seem to be increasing... Y'know, it seems that way, but it's not. Little things change pretty regularly. When you start studying

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/4/2009 5:41:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sha...@collierfam.com writes: I remember that we were not allowed to wear long skirts to high school in the year 1968-69. ** Isn't that dumb? They were probably telling girls not to wear short skirts 3 years

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2009-07-04 Thread otsisto
I had asked Lynn McMasters and she says that it is based off an Italian portrait. http://lynnmcmasters.com/LadyM.html in color and a wee bit larger. http://tinyurl.com/yt6hg9 Now it could be something like this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Angelo_Bronzino_002.jpg with a caul but it is

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2009-07-04 Thread Suzanne
I lived in Ann Arbor, Michigan, from 1963 to 1976. As I remember it, skirts got progressively shorter from 1966 to 1969 but the local culture still didn't accept trousers on women. IIRC, the first pantsuits for women were greeted with derision on this side of the Atlantic. Anyhoo, I

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 7/4/2009 7:37:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sovag...@cybermesa.com writes: [who thinks it is true that the Sixties mostly happened in the Seventies] Oh, absolutely. Ann Wass **Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill.

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
What do you mean by that? I definitely experienced the 60s in the 60s. Sylvia On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:22 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/4/2009 7:37:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sovag...@cybermesa.com writes: [who thinks it is true that the Sixties mostly happened in the

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread AnnBWass
Oh, many styles and events that people remember as 1960s are actually 1970s. I think the most memorable event may be the National Guard/Kent State incident, which was actually in the spring of 1970. Right off the top of my head, clothing-wise, I'm thinking of polyester double knits, and

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread Maggie
I figure that what we think of as The Sixties started about 1964 (when the Beatles arrived) and went to about 1976 or so. It all depends on what your markers are, but mere calendar dates don't work. Trends and whatever don't start and stop neatly just because the decade changes. Maggie Secara

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread purplkat
As I am brand new to this time period, do I just google Civil War dress, or 1860, or what? Katheryne - Original Message - From: Carolann Schmitt Karen's suggest on getting an appropriate one-piece dress and accessorizingit for your needs is still very applicable and very good

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

2009-07-04 Thread lilinah
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net wrote: Here's a question for those (like me) old-timers out there. I may be going to a 1960s hippies style event and if so, need to wear a costume. My recollection isn't so good. Remember what they said: If you can remember it,

Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought

2009-07-04 Thread Käthe Barrows
Also, they were considered undergarments, just as men's shirts were were not worn alone. A Garibaldi waist was worn as an ensemble piece with either a Zouave or bolero jacket , or a Swiss bodice. I hadn't heard that, nor guessed it from the fashion plates I have seen with no jacket. --

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2009-07-04 Thread Penny Ladnier
This conversation came to mind tonight while watching fireworks. Many young adult women were wearing tie-dyed maxi skirts. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history