Re: [h-cost] Dress Codes....was 1960 hippie fashion

Yes, that. The boys at our school (public) had to wear trousers (no jeans or shorts) and collared shirts (no tanks or tees). Shoes and socks, no sandals. No facial hair. Haircuts no longer than the bottom of the collar. No earrings (not that a lot of guys had pierced ears - YET.) No

Re: [h-cost] Villager shirtwaists

Stripes, plaids - I had some velvet bellbottom hiphuggers in a LOVELY brown-and-orange paisley. I think we were not only thinner but a little bit colorblind as well. ;-) Liadain -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [h-cost] 1960 hippie fashion

We weren't allowed to wear pants unless the temp was 32F or below (and no jeans!). This doesn't happen that often in Corpus Christi, TX - but by golly that sea wind is blessed COLD at 33degrees... In my 9th grade year('68), most of the girls staged a pants-wearing sit in. Didn't work, but

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

My mother was ADDICTED to that stuff. In the most horrible pallid colors... And of course it had to be TEXTURED as well. I can still remember some of those dresses- was like wearing a plastic bag lined with sandpaper. Shudder. Liadain A happy natural fiber junkie now THL Liadain ni Mhordha

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

I remember that dress - that was THE dress where I grew up. Either so short your personality showed, or so long it dragged on the ground if you weren't careful... Some girls wore the mini or a knee-length version over bellbottoms. Wow, man, flashbacks. Liadain Mercy I'm

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

Heh. Thanks, at least my grandkids think so! ;-) Of course nowadays you can't walk through any clothing store without seeing something on the racks that I already wore 40!!! years ago, so Granny's wardrobe is pretty kewl. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from

Re: [h-cost] No rings on middle finger (was Black beads PrincessElizabeth image)

Wow, my learned thing of the day! Went to my stash of portraits-with-blackwork out of curiosity, and not one single middle-finger ring - even on the folks wearing a ring on every other finger. Amazing the things you never notice! :-) Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful

Re: [h-cost] (no subject)

That thingie is a clarion - a horn. Know I've seen that drawing before, but darned if I can find it in my Norris (know it's gotta be in there though...) Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com

[h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait?

While wandering the web last night, came upon this - http://www.needlework-tips-and-techniques.com/blackwork-cuff-on-an-italian-r enaissance-gown.html Has anyone seen this portrait before, or have any idea of its attribution? If it's real (Eleanor or not) I'd love to see a better image and

Re: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait?

://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.tripod.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:47 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Eleanor

Re: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait?

-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:47 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait? While wandering the web last night, came upon this - http://www.needlework-tips

Re: [h-cost] Mary I ???

The top bit of the dress - what looks like a partlet - reminds me a lot of that painting of young Mary Stuart, the one where she is wearing all those loverly black pearls. The head/headdress reminds me of the Widow Mary Stuart, the portrait where she is all in black and white. The rest

Re: [h-cost] Off-topic fabric search

THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]

Re: [h-cost] Off-topic fabric search

and a Ben Franklin that just opened (haven't been in yet - this weekend, I hope.) Well, don't discount them altogether. A couple of years ago, I found a GREAT cotton print for an early 19th century dress, plus a Lacis handbag frame at a Ben Franklin--both unexpected, but pleasant,

[h-cost] Off-topic fabric search

This isn't very historical, but I know somebody on this list knows where to find EVERYTHING - does anyone know a source for that very light-weight Indian cotton used for summer blouses, etc? The stuff with the gold or silver threads woven in? Thanks! Liadain fathal...@collinscom.net You get

Re: [h-cost] Off-topic fabric search

For real - that's what I would think too, but not this year... humph. G Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From:

Re: [h-cost] Off-topic fabric search

Our Walmart sewing section is getting smaller and smaller, alas. The manager claims it isn't, bur I think he fibs... Thanks for the tips! Even if I don't find it, there'll be a bit of fun in the hunting. Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the

Re: [h-cost] Costume- and sewing-related Christmas gifts

I got PoF4 (and I'm s happy!) and new graphicating software for my computer that I can actually understand, for doing up patterns and classnotes and such... And a Black Hills gold watch and a new blender, which are kewl but not as fun. ;-) Liadain You get a wonderful view from the

Re: [h-cost] Costume- and sewing-related Christmas gifts

How very cool - sounds like a fabric that would make spiff décor in my 50s kitchen! :-) Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message-

Re: [h-cost] Has Amazon.com gone insane?

Maybe it's all the costumers buying books and Terry Pratchett stuff as well? G Of course, either Death or Albert in a corset would be quite a sight Liadain Drifting away on flights of fancy THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse,

Re: [h-cost] Has Amazon.com gone insane?

Would Death's corset need boning, do you think? Liadain Ducking and running THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original

Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing?

Headless Annie was wearing the last of a half-dozen peasant blouses I made for around-the-farm wear; now she is draped in 8 yards of cream-colored raw silk with a woven plaid texture that I love, but can't decide what to do with... The work box and embroidery frame are holding a rushnyk for a

Re: [h-cost] Question on 16th cent smocks/camiciae

Thanks! I never thought of it before this morning, and now I HAVE to find out as much as possible...am gleefully gathering portraits Liadain Jussst a little OCD THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands

Re: [h-cost] Question on 16th cent smocks/camiciae - additionalinformation

Kewl! So far I haven't gone off the historical path with mine, unless this one hnas been re-worked at some point (though I'm sure museum would note that.) Why the slit, I wonder? In the neckline? Is the neck smaller that we would expect, or about what we see in portraits? And BTW, do you

Re: [h-cost] Question on 16th cent smocks/camiciae

cent smocks/camiciae Quoting Frank A Thallas Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks! I never thought of it before this morning, and now I HAVE to find out as much as possible...am gleefully gathering portraits Have you looked at Jane Stockton's embroidery page? I think that there's lots of links

Re: [h-cost] Question on 16th cent smocks/camiciae

/camiciae Quoting Frank A Thallas Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Haven't been much of anywhere yet, since must keep taking time out for Little Orphan Kitteh, but plan to do a lot of surfing later! L And I ain't even gonna get a degree out of all this! Conservation of Textiles .. ducking and running

Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in Walmart? Wonder if that was part of her deal, to get rid of the fabric department to make room for her merchandise. Just speculating, don't shoot me! :) Cactus Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with

Re: [h-cost] odd outfit

Just as an aside, you can't count on no nekkidness for saints - there are a number of images of the Virgin in the western tradition in which one breast is bared, a couple of Mary Magdalene in which she wears little more than hair (and she's always red-headed!) and a couple of the early virgin

Re: [h-cost] Odd outfit

In Byz iconography, she is usually shown in a very ornate Byzantine robe and crowned, much bejeweled, holding a cross (the Orthodox symbol of martyrdom). The wheel/sword is not often shown in classic icons. Her hair is usually properly G covered (you'll see very very little hair on Byz female

Re: [h-cost] odd outfit

Looks like one to me too - the I Am A Queen sort, complete with ermine and a cloak to match. Catherine's pretty popular. A quick google image search also shows her in an Italian gown, a couple more variations on a sideless, a couple variations on Ye Olde Tyme Robes, and a Carravaggio where

Re: [h-cost] FLDS vs. Amish

I imagine this varies, like color choices, from group to group - some groups (I know the organizational word, but darned if I can think of it!) are much more strict than others. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the

Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing

Fundamentalist Church of the Latter-Day Saints. It's a polygamist group that broke away from the main body of the Mormon church. If you Google, I'm sure you will find many *ahem* interesting news stories... Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of

Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing

PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Fundamentalist Church of the Latter-Day Saints. It's a polygamist group that broke away from the main body of the Mormon church

Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing

Especially when worn over the requisite full-body long underwear. In Texas...While doing hard physical labor... I wonder how much heat prostration happened at the compound... Astrida Who cares, it's only wimmen.. Oooo. Did I say that with my outside voice? ;-P Seriously,

Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing

Heh. You gonna open a BIG old can of fish with THAT one. G Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message-

Re: [h-cost] Speedos by name

Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Speedos by name Oh yeah, in Australia we call them budgie smugglers, -C. Oh, mercy. You made me spit iced tea on my keyboard with that Liadain Still laughing and picturing little birdie feet poking out THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO

Re: [h-cost] portraits?

Huh! Kewl! Is there a place to see the original? Liadain again, Who should read ALL the mail before speaking. G - Original Message - From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tinyurl.com/5gvnl4 Well, to be fair, there's some small possibility it is a portrait of AB; it could just

Re: [h-cost] portraits?

Pretty, but definitely NOT Tudor. My first (semi-educated) impression was Dutch- Rubens, Rembrandt, etc portraiture She looks familiar. Maybe someone here knows her- will be interesting to see! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands

Re: [h-cost] Costumed tableware

Well, I kinda LIKE the red/yellow one with the apple. G Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [h-cost] Patterns of Fashion Volume 4: linen

Ooo. I know what I'm wantin' for Christmas. Thanks! Liadain Anticipatin' THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] Patterns of Fashion Volume 4: linen

Has anyone heard anymore about the publication below? Such as publisher and a real date? Jenny Tiramani is currently preparing Janet Arnold's book, Patterns of Fashion Volume 4 ; The cut and construction of linen shirts, smocks, neckwear, headwear accessories for men and women c.1540-1660

Re: [h-cost] a little OT - hunting a portrait

How interesting - must be a print taken from a copy of the original. I've never seen that one before! They stayed very near to the original in color, though - isn't that a spiff outfit? Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] a little OT - hunting a portrait

Whoops, dang it - meant to say thanks, and definitely meant to trim! Sorry! Liadain Fingers faster than brain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] a little OT - hunting a portrait

Hey, Sis, long time no hearG Isn't he beautiful? He must have cut quite a figure in that outfit... Sigh. I want to go to England some day when I grow up. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com

[h-cost] a little OT - hunting a portrait

Sorry if this is off-topic, but I'm hunting a portrait online that I first found at the Tate - About 1548s, English, Unknown Man by an unknown artist (helpful, huh?) a youngish man in a fabulous red Tudor outfit open at the front to show a heavily blackworked shirt ... any help in finding him

Re: [h-cost] a little OT - hunting a portrait

remember where. Give me until tomorrow, or hopefully someone else has it, or knows where a better version is. And I checked the Royal Collection, and doing a quick search did not find it there online. Kimiko --- Frank A Thallas Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is off-topic, but I'm

Re: [h-cost] Les Adieaux en miniature

I think the real Marie Antoinette would covet this dress! Looking forward to seeing the next! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [h-cost] Re: Painting ID?

I love that one! It's a Bronzino, and I think it's at Hampton Court - if I remember right Hope that helps a bit. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] A good use for bad costume books (was: FindingInformation)

books (was: FindingInformation) Kohler Hey, Kohler has pictures of real garments (albeit displayed on live models), and also some decent drawings of patterns taken from them--I've used one of his early 19th century bodices as a guide. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Frank A Thallas Jr

OT observation (was:RE: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: COMPLETELY off topic, but the above would be a great name for something - a law firm, a girl band. ;-) Sorry, had to say it. And kinda on topic - the palm fronds in saint pics in western countries (Italy, Spain, etc) generally denote martyrdom. In

RE: [h-cost] A good use for bad costume books (was: Finding Information)

I am the proud (?!?) owner of a copy of Ancient Costumes Of Great Britain and Ireland, by Charles Hamilton Smith, originally published in 1814. Maybe this is the source of the Druid sleeves on half the costumes offered on eBay But it's a nice big book and does good duty as a lap desk. :-P

RE: [h-cost] new waistcoat

O, Bjarne, just saw the pictures on LJ - I am SO coveting this. It is beautiful! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og

RE: [h-cost] insane hunt

Way cool! I'll be so happy when we get a fast enough connection to watch YouTube - missing all the good stuff! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Renaissance shirt question

I don't use the neck gussets in my shirts, but I did have the same problem in the beginning, and my fix was pretty simple. When attaching the band of the collar, I use only about the center 1/3 of the band to gather/pleat the back of the shirt into, whilw the rest goes to the front. This makes

RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains

Depends on the fabric, I think. I work mostly (embroidery-wise) on linen and cotton. If I see the blood spot immediately, I wet it with (eew) saliva - your own will dissolve away your own blood. (My grandmother taught me that...G) For stains a little older, I CAREFULLY wet with hydrogen

RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains

Heh. This sounds a lot nicer than just spittin' on it...G Liadain Hillbilly girl THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann

RE: [h-cost] now we are all special...

Wow. Reserved parking, and I don't even have a driver's license! G Liadain From a set of kitchen knives made in Korea - Caution - Do Not Use In Children. THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message-

RE: [h-cost] Bjarne Drew Article

Sounds like great projects - will have to see if my local bookstore can get the magazine! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [h-cost] Bjarne Drew Article

Totally cool! Yay. Bjarne! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Walton Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Embroidery? MACHINE?!? What manner of sorcery is THIS? G Sounds like you're gonna have fun with the new one, thoughsomeday maybe, when we can plug in more than 2 things in our house without the circuit breakers popping...G Liadain Little house on the prairie THL Liadain ni Mhordha

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

, Patty Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:55 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts? Maybe a breaker bar and a lg extension cord? Ceit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Sat 11/24/2007 8:52 PM

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Oooo, cool project! (And I hope an interesting trial, so you are not too bored...) Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Heh. Machines seem to do that, yep. But even by hand, if there's a deadline, something comes up - kittens, puppies, kids, broken body partsG Liadain Getting ready top watch Hogfather on TV in one hour YAY THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Heh. You win. I can see my sewing machine. However, I do NOT have a place to plug it in. Liadain Having just returned from venturing to town, and buying MORE stuff THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message-

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Thanks! I may have to go to minirushnyki (sized for one icon instead of a group) if I hope to finish any more, sigh But then I'd get to do many many more patterns! Liadain Whose clutter has gone past creative into downright artistic...G THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Heh. I think the word may be nuts, at least in my case...or at least biting off more than I want to chew. I can't do multiples of the same pattern - I get bored just doing the same pattern on two ends of these scarves! Every one - if ever ever I finish them - will be different, and therefore

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

I'm making blackwork rushnyki (icon scarves) for friends at church (progress can be seen at my flickr page below), in between nursing orphan kittens and now trying to housebreak a very cute puppy with no clue about inside and outside... I don't think I'm going to finish my Christmas presents

RE: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?

Ooo, fun! And what good taste in techniques to learn! G Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cynthia J Ley Sent: Friday, November

RE: [h-cost] Re: welcome back

Thanks! Am hard at work on more b/w for Christmas presents, then on to some new body linens - have been planning FOREVER to do the camicia from Raphael's La Muta. And then I'll need the gown to go with it... Alas, only one kitten remains - apparently they had been exposed to cat parvo

RE: [h-cost] Re: welcome back

beautifull!! Bjarne - Original Message - From: Frank A Thallas Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re: welcome back Thanks! Am hard at work on more b/w for Christmas presents, then on to some

[h-cost] Newcomer (sort of)

Hello the list! My name is Liadain, I used to belong here a couple of years ago; I primarily do blackwork and 16th-century, but am pretty much interested in everything else as well Your Very Good Health! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands