Re: [h-cost] seeking help on constructing a mantua
I made a mantua a few years back, before the Reconstructing History pattern came out. I had 3 books that featured a mantua and had a layout of the dress, showing the fold lines. I used a regular dress pattern that fit me and overlaid the mantua layout on that. Since it's all draped, pinned, and sewn, rather than cut, I actually had all 3 books laid out next to one another on my ironing board while I did the pinning and fitting. It turned out beautifully, but it was the hardest garment I've ever made. I recently bought the RC pattern and took out the pattern to made another mantua. Frankly, I couldn't figure the pattern out; the layout made no sense to me; and the instructions didn't help. So, I think what works best for me might not work for others, but I couldn't visualize how the pattern worked, but I COULD look at the diagrams in the books and figure out how those worked. And I work from patterns, and don't drape. PS. Since I'm at work answering this, I don't have the books on hand, but if you want the information, I can look them up later today. I believe one was The Cut of Women's Clothes. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker d...@mantua-maker.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:35 pm Subject: [h-cost] seeking help on constructing a mantua I'm passing this request on for Kerry. If you can help her, please contact er at wkmda...@hdo.net - am desperately seeking help on constructing a mantua (1680's). Have you ny experience or know of anyone who has made this type of garment? I have ried Reconstructing History's pattern but it hasn't been very user riendly (to me) and I am getting very discouraged. Yes, we have talked to the pattern makers at Reconstructing History but hey, too, have realized some discrepancies in pattern irections/instructions. I just thought I'd see if I could find someone lse who might have created this kind of garment so as to get a different erspective or learn from their experience. I would appreciate your offer of furthering my email onto your costume list o see what we might be able to find out. ny assistance you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Kerry ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] loose gown
I believe they are dancing a tourdion. It looks like a galliard, but moving like a processional. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: albertcat albert...@aol.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] loose gown h, I see lots of nice, and some rather incorrect outfits in this movie clip. ndeed. nd the aristocacy is so delightfully cruel, isn't it? :-) Then they dance a ort of La Volta (too early for that too, I think) instead of a Galliard. ut from the late 1960's to the early 80's was the heyday of period accuracy n costume design. Even though nothing is museum accurate (nor should they be or a film), there is great respect for whatever period the project is set.. __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] some questions about renaissance,
Welcome back Bjarne! What time period will these outfits be? The renaissance covers a lot of centuries. That might help identify what a wide dress or a narrow dress is. For example, I might classify a 15th century Italian dress as narrow, (or perpendicular) but a 15th century Italian dress as wide. The description might depend on the silhouette of the dress. For ruffs and cuffs, I'd recommend a silk organza or a stiff linen (it can always be starched). Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Leif og Bjarne Drews drews...@post12.tele.dk To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:25 am Subject: [h-cost] some questions about renaissance, Hello the list, its long time since last. have ben asked to make some renaissance costumes for a shool projekt at a anish castle. the teachers are going to be dressed up in renaissance costumes, man and a woman. They work at a danish castle wich is a museum. am going to start this projekt in july. n some danish inventory lists, wich all are written in german ( it was the anguage used then in Denmark) it is often mentioned with wide dresses and arrow dresses. y question is, could a narrow dress be the same as the english word “a kirtle” ts hopeless with danish study of danish renaissance costumes, because nobody nows the danish terms for different costumes (costume parts) No danish words or anything except the major things like ruffs, cuffs and the like. nother question i have for you is: wich fabric would you recomend to use when i ake ruffs and cuffs? They should be able to wash them often, and i thoaght bout maybe using a synthetic fabric wich will hold the shape, and dont need to e ironed, or perhaps to use silk organza, as this also is stiff and keeps the hape. ny suggestions and any help would be greatfull apreciated. Bjarne __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume-Con 29
I am! Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: CC2010Milw cc2010m...@cs.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 5:54 pm Subject: [h-cost] Costume-Con 29 Ok, hands up! Who is going to Costume-Con this year? Henry W. Osier __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011
Colonial Williamsburg's Heritage Dancers will be hosting the George Washington Ball the first Saturday in March. I don't have details yet. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 6:45 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011 Thanks! We're trying to get to meet you - will see how the plans fall nto place. ye for now, Aylwen On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I am expecting it to be July 16 Katy On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Katy Do you know when the NAHANT VICTORIAN DAY BALL An 1860’s SUMMER BALL to Benefit the Nahant Historical Society will be on in 2011? John and I are discussing our trip and trying to see if it fits in. According to the 2010 date it might be possible. Bye for now, Aylwen On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Aylwen, We have 2 dance events in March up here in the Boston, MA area, Returning Heroes Ball (American Civil War) March 5 Holliston Town Hall, Holliston, Massachusetts Sponsored by: The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers Mostly Victorian Tea Dance March 20 Cambridge, Massachusetts Sponsored by: Eclectic Enterprises and The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers We'd love to meet you some day! Katy On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am travelling to the US in March to attend Costume Accessories: Head to Toe at Colonel Williamsburg. Does anyone know if there are any other historical costuming or dance events on in March that I can add to my itinerary? Bye for now, Aylwen Garden --- Costume Director, Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia President, Monaro Folk Society ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Renaissance Dress in Italy
I saw this listed on ABEBOOKS last year for about $1,300. Luckily, I already have a copy. Kathleen -Original Message- From: Charlene Charette charlene...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:28 pm Subject: [h-cost] Renaissance Dress in Italy Good grief. This is the highest price I've seen so far. And for x-library, at that. But they'll generously donate £0.25 to charity. ah! http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=3510504977cm_ven=nlcm_cat=trgcm_pla=wantcm_ite=viewbook --Charlene - ver notice that when you try to knock on wood, you become acutely ware that the world is largely comprised of synthetics? -- Aaron aro's Ruminations.com ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mullets: Out of Style, and Now Illegal
I'll bet it was the party in back part the mullahs didn't like. Kathy Norvell -Original Message- From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: h-cost h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 2:25 pm Subject: [h-cost] Mullets: Out of Style, and Now Illegal Mullets: Out of Style, and Now Illegal in Iran and thank goodness or that! This story just out in Time magazine this week. Here's the teaser for the article. It's a tough time to have a mullet n this world. First, you get ridiculed for looking silly, and if you ive in Iran, the government could fine you for your 'do. Iran has ust released guidelines for men's hairstyles in an attempt to rid the ountry of decadent Western cuts. You're in the clear if you have a hort, conservative haircut - and you can use hair gel, just not a ot. The government is even cool with side parts and Elvis-style oufs. But if your hair is long, spiky, or be-mulleted, beware. And on't you dare think of plucking your unibrow. The punishment for irst-time offenders is a short, unflattering cut, and after that Iran mposes fines. Click on [pictures] to see Western styles that would et Iranians in trouble. http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/07/07/mullets-out-of-style-and-now-illegal-in-iran/#ixzz0tD7g5qO0 -cin ynthia Barnes inbar...@gmail.com __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
I saw this exhibit at the embassy in DC. Most of the reconstructions are very good, but one had me wondering -- the gown was actually below the bosom so all you saw on top was the chemise over the mannequin's boobs! The neckline of the gown was at ribcage level. Kathleen Novell -Original Message- From: A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC or a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only ound out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it. Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even ack views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's nterest I can put them on Flickr or the like. Allison T. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction Message-ID: aanlktim4gctdb8asnvi5dcjd-_drgtix42ah5c_uv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CUTTING KNITS (SWEATERS)
I just took a class on reconfiguring sweaters and the instructor suggested iron-on interfacing used the same way you suggest for grosgrain ribbon. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: AVCHASE achasedes...@peoplepc.com To: h-costume posts h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Thu, Apr 22, 2010 10:32 am Subject: [h-cost] CUTTING KNITS (SWEATERS) Grandmother taught me that to change knits machine sew a grossgrain ribbon of he desired length on the line to be cut. Cut below the line. Sew on the outside f a rounded finish is desired, turn and hand hem on the ribs. Sew on the inside or a more casual look. Use for sleeves, armholes, neck, hems, and button losures making sure to use a ribbon for both button holes and button ttachments. opefully this is useful. Audy in the high boonies of Central Texas eoplePC Online better way to Internet ttp://www.peoplepc.com __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Rings
These also make wonderful lacing rings since they're solid and don't slip through the thread. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Helen Pinto helen.pi...@comcast.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 5:56 pm Subject: [h-cost] Rings If you used jewelry findings, make sure you use jumprings which are soldered losed like the ones here: ttp://www.firemountaingems.com/search.asp?skw=jumprings+soldered+closed+brass+18+gauge Helen/Aidan ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown
When I first saw photos of the gown, I was puzzled since it didn't look like anything that came before or after it. Once I saw it in the museum, I was convinced that it's exhibited on a (really bad, lumpy) form that's too big for it. I made a small mockup of it based on the photo, closed it up CF, and it looked just like a regular 16/17th century gown. Those zany Victorians! Kathy Norvell -Original Message- From: Judy Mitchell judymi...@theoldforest.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown Cin wrote: Thanks for all your comments on the Shinrone gown, everyone. It's certainly more than I knew before disappointing that there's not much else to go on. If there's a paper or even a mention in CSA or Dress, I'd like to have a heads up about it. Other than that, sounds like everyone's sharing the same 2-3 bits of info. *sigh* Still, it's all appreciated, --cin well, mostly - except for the one comment that it's being displayed on a mannekin that's too large, and I've heard from others also kinda lumpy and distorted (but not 'pregnant' large or lumpy), has no one else that's seen it noticed this? I should think an improper display would change it's appearance and lead to all sorts of ideas. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown
I too have actually seen the Shinrone gown up close, but did not have the opportunity to handle it (I didn't know at the time that I could have just asked to do so, and the museum people probably would have said yes), but that said, I have some dispute with Kass' interpretation. Part of the problem is that the gown is displayed on a form that's too big for it, so it can't be laced up in front. If the gown is indeed dated c. 1600, then there is no reason I know of that it would be cut to not lace in front -- all the?contemporary drawings of Irish gowns I've seen (both before and after 1600) show the gowns laced closed in front. Also, why would a gown not lace? It can get pretty cold and damp in Ireland -- what would a woman wear under the gown to keep her warm? According to descriptions of the gown, a lot of restoration was done to it in the 1800s. so we realy don't know how much of the weird stitching, seams, etc are Victorian and how much is contemporary. For example, the bodice was reinforced back in the 1800s to hold the skirt, which is very heavy. Look at some of the color illustrations of late 16th century Irish gowns?in Dunleavy's Dress in Ireland for comparison. I've made several of those gowns and if you unlace them, guess what? They look just like the Shinrone gown. By the way, has anyone mentioned the little stand-up collar on the center back (but not elsewhere) of the bodice? Any ideas what it's for? I'm thinking maybe to support a small ruff? Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Kimiko Small sstormwa...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:32 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown Hi Cynthia, Kass' info on the Shinrone gown is probably the most thorough I know of, as she handled the gown herself, and most of the rest I've seen is usually based on written descriptions of the garment and two photos in one book (Dress in Ireland). I know from having made my own many years ago, before her info came out, that the written info is incomplete, and there are unseen unwritten details that Kass describes pretty well. And as Kass mentions, it is not supposed to lace closed in front. It really is cut that way, tho why I am still not sure. Kimiko From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com Ladies (and a few gents), Have any of you got informative comments to share on the Shirone gown? I'm looking at the front and wondering whether that placket is * cut on the straight grain like a Henrican kirtle distorted with age, wear and/or burial * cut on the straight CF but folded back in a slight V for a wider CF lacing area * really cut in a curve like that?! I've read Recontructing History's notes and would like confirming or contrasting facts, if you have any to share. Thanks all! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] early 17th century stays and bodice
I made a jacket very similar to the one shown. It's wool, lined with drill (heavy twill-weave cotton -- you could use canvas). I wear no stays under it and it looks just like the illustration shown. If you look closely, you can see the rounded bottom of the bosom under the jacket. You don't get that look with stays. Years ago, when I asked Janet Arnold about 17th century corsetry for the middle class, she replied that we just don't know because there are no extant middle class 17th century stays. Kathleen Norvell? -Original Message- From: Zuzana Kraemerova zkraemer...@yahoo.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2009 10:38 am Subject: [h-cost] early 17th century stays and bodice Hi, I am going to do an early 17th century woman's middle class dress, location: Bohemia (today's Czech Republic, east of Germany if someone doesn't know), time: 1618-1648. I want it to look like this: http://link.library.utoronto.ca/hollar/digobject.cfm?Idno=Hollar_k_1716query=Hollar_k_1716size=largetype=browse I have some questions regarding the bodice and stays. First of all, I assume I should use stays (I prefer stays to boned bodices). Then, if I use stays, shall I do some light boning to the bodice as well? It'll be light wool lined with linen. I don't really know how shall the stays look like. I have only found this: http://www.manchestergalleries.org/the-collections/search-the-collection/image.php?EMUSESSID=bf812423145fbba6ba4d441b7ec2ec13imageirn=400682r=51445954 from this era, but I'm not sure about the style...I thought I should do some traditional type of stays with lacing at the back...do you have any pictures of other surviving garments (corsets) from the 1st half of 17th century? The bodice should be pointed, cut at the waist, probably with tabs, and with something like princess seams. I think I should keep to this pattern: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkoslov/1354051356/in/set-72157601949667448/ For the stays and bodice, but again, it's a bit too late. What do you think? Thanks, Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions
As someone who was there, I remember tie-dyed clothing (especially if you were a Deadhead); hiphugger bellbottoms; gogo boots (white vinyl, of course!); colored, textured?tights (I wore colored tights with fishnets over them); dashikis; headbands; miniskirts; frilly, Victorian-like blouses; sandals; big, floppy hats; peasant blouses and skirts; ethnic or gypsy clothing (check Giorgio de SantAngelo a favorite fashion designer); headscarves worn pirate-like sideways; Mondrian-print dresses and tunics; Pucci-print dresses (I had a minidress with a hood in a pucci print); dresses and blouses with hugem flowing sleeves; square-toes, chunky-heeled shoes with straps or buckles. I wore a tie-dyed tee shirt, shorts, and sandals to Woodstock. So did a lot of other people. I hope that helps. Kathy -Original Message- From: Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:06 am Subject: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions Here's a question for those (like me) old-timers out there. I may be going to a 1960s hippies style event and if so, need to wear a costume. My recollection isn't so good. Remember what they said: If you can remember it, you weren't really there? Anyhow, I'm trying to remember when long skirts and dresses came in. I can only recall wearing them in the 1970s, but my legs, not being what they used to be, definitely do not want to be seen in a mini skirt, which is all I can remember wearing in the late 60s. Along with bell bottom pants, of course, which is an option, but I prefer a dress.? ? What do you early boomers recall?? ? Sylvia R? ___? h-costume mailing list? h-cost...@mail.indra.com? http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation
As a two-time judge of historical clothing at CostumeCon and a viewer of this year's entrants, let me weigh in for a minute. All judges have historical biases, but we're adult enough to put them aside. Besides, there are 3 people judging, so if one person hates 1950s styles, the other 2 might not. I didn't like the hat from the 1959 Dior pattern?-- frankly, I thought it looked like a wastebasket -- but the rest of the outfit was fabulous. If I thought for a minute I could have fit in that suit ... well, you get the point. On the other hand, there are other time periods I love, but that's not going to influence me either. A good job is a good job. At the first CostumeCon I attended, one of the pattern companies (Simplicity, I think) offered a prize for the most creative use of its patterns. The winning outfit was Adrien Butterfield's Nazi uniform. I KNOW the judges hated that, but it was the best. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Andrew T Trembley attre...@bovil.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 6:43 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation On May 7, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Heather Rose Jones wrote:? It's probably bad manners to say this on the list rather than privately, but I'm a bit concerned for what the lurkers might think if this isn't responded to.? ? No, it's really not bad manners.? ? If that had been something I entered, I would be extremely hurt and horrified to see a judge talking about it in this fashion. A hat is stupid simply because you had a bad experience with '50s fashion? An entire historical fashion era makes you gag? I would find it very difficult to trust a judge to be impartial who expresses opinions like this. You say it shouldn't matter, but I'd look for a bit more evidence that the judges control their rendered judgement better than their expressed opinions.? ? There are no judges who don't have any stylistic biases. We need to admit that up front, rather than embrace a myth. A good masquerade director will consider the biases of potential judges and build a panel that provides balance.? ? That said, some of the comments about entries are borderline at best. Like Vegas, what happens in the judging space should stay in the judging space, privy to only the judges, the clerk and the director, unless the entrant (and only the entrant) asks for critique from the judges. The goal is to encourage people to enter by rewarding excellent research and execution, not to scare them away by offering unsolicited criticism.? ? andy? ___? h-costume mailing list? h-cost...@mail.indra.com? http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress
The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice. They couldn't find something that actually matched the feathers? Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: annbw...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 3:50 pm Subject: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress My husband sent me this story and suggested I share it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] V-neck regency gown?
I have used this pattern for several Regency gowns. My advice is to have someone fit you carefully. The overlap is tricky and?I've had to take both bodices apart to refit them. Kathleen Norvell? -Original Message- From: Aylwen Garden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 5:53 am Subject: [h-cost] V-neck regency gown? A dancer in my group is making a v-neck regency gown and is using the La Mode Bagetelle pattern. Has anyone here seen this version made up? She has told me there is a huge overlap. Without being able to see it, I can't see if this is designed to come out like the half robe in Janet Arnold or not. Thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Those wrap around pants?
I think you mean sarouelles. The Sarouelles Pattern #119 is available from Folkwear. Several styles are included. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 7:54 pm Subject: [h-cost] Those wrap around pants? Can anyone direct me to the name or a pattern of those baggy wrap around and tie at the waist pants you see at ren fairs? Thanks,Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] National Geographic: History of the Bra
Now, if only they could make the underwires STAY in the bra and not poke through Kathleen Norvell ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Order of the Sealed Knot
Cindy, What exactly are you looking for? I've been an English Cvil War reenactor for some 20 years and have lsts of resources. I'm also on this side of the pond. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:03 PM Subject: [h-cost] Order of the Sealed Knot Just for fun, I'm planning to dress four 16 vinyl dolls(Wilde Imaginations Ellowyne Wilde doll)in historical or at least historical cut/modern fabrics in RenFaire-inspired dress. Just one, I'm planning to dress, probably for a less flamboyant era, so I'm considering doing UK Civil War/Commonwealth. Since I'm on the west side of the pond, I don't see at RenFaires, plays, TV, movies, much in the way of costumes during the English Civil War and Commonwealth. I do have a few books on mid 17th century costuming, most noteably, Riberio's Fashion and Fiction and Hunnisett's Period Costume for Stage and Screen 1500-1800. I did find the Order of the Sealed Knot's website, which I gather is probably as big in the UK for reinactors as both the Revolutionary War and our Civil War is here in the U.S. Fabric is not a problem, but sources are. Right now, I'm thinking of doing something along the lines of using Hunnisett's pattern for the Commonwealth bodice for starters and adapting Hollar's illustration for Winter Any other suggestions? Thank you Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency Weekend at Riversdale House Museum
Ann, Do you know what workshop requires the kit fee? Kathy Norvell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Casanova on PBS........ I was wonder too about the clothes......
Yikes, I caught bits and pieces of Casanova while I was taping. It's atrocious! Casanova was wearing a red shirt that buttoned down the front (not in 1740!), as well as a black neckcloth. I've seen black stocks, but not black jabots. Ladies had aqua lace engagentes (sleeve lace). I've seen many an 18th century gown and I've never seen colored lace on sleeves like that. And don't get me started on the women's hair! Awful. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Casanova on PBS I was wonder too about the clothes.. I was wondering about the ladies clothes, it was supposed to be 1740 ,Venice Italy and all the gowns look like French court dresses.is any of the dress or hairstyles correct?...anyone? Lauren Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just watching the Casanova with Peter O'Toole on Masterpiece Theatre, and I must ask -- any chance that the women's hairstyle of curls or curled-up tiny braids interspersed with many little ribbons is an authentic 18th C one? (Henriette wears it, at least throughout Part I, which is all I've seen so far.) It's so much more fun than the French court towers of powdered hair... Lauren Lauren M. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] amusing fashion plates
The pictures are from a book, The Elegant Beast by Leonard Lubin, 1981, Viking Press. The ISBN is 0-670-29097-1. I own a copy and I have delighted in the illustrations for years. Kathleen Norvell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Libertine
I saw it the weekend it came out. It was supposed to have been released last September, then January. I don't know what the problem was, except the content of the film. It's rude, crude, lewd, and socially unacceptable -- or rather Lord Rochester was. It's well performed and generally well done. The costumes are good, but the film emphasizes the seamy side of Restoration-era England, so they aren't very fancy. Lots of mud and dirt -- even under the fingernails of the aristocracy. Since Rochester died of syphillis, which is portrayed pretty graphically, you can imagine that the film is not pretty. It was originally a play, and John Malkovich played Rochester (he playes Charles II here in a really bad fake nose), so it's kind of choppy. Malkovich held the rights to the play (to film it), but it took him so long to get the financing that he was too old to play Rochester. Johnny Depp was a great job, but he's not a very likeable character. I recommend it with reservations. It can gross you out. As a costume flick, it's OK, but you won't see much in the way of court dress -- theatrical costumes (when the actors wear clothes) and servant's clothes are more likely. Kathleen Norvell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Looking for a magazine
I'm trying to track down a European sewing magazine for a friend. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the November 2001 Burda Magazine (prefereable in English)? Thanks. Kathleen Norvell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Current day fashion magazines
I like InStyle, which may not qualify as a fashion magazine, but I think it's got great fashion sense. Kathleen Norvell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
