If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly
could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have
spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :)
There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't...
Yes, Allesandro Allori frescoes show several. Very
Hi,
This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in some of the
Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest underlying pockets 13th
century, even though they don't show up in paintings.
Lauren
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This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in some of the
Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest underlying pockets 13th
century, even though they don't show up in paintings.
The pocket slits in 14th c. clothing are generally understood as
Thanks for the clarification, Robin, and sorry about the century -- I'm
obsessed with the, like, three 13th century pieces out of the Greenland finds
so I forget that the vast majority of stuff was later.
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From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone had trouble finding the pocket on the Museo Del Traje
website, here's the enlarged photo:
http://snipurl.com/290d3 [museodeltraje_mcu_es]
And here's the inventory [inventario] number: CE000790
As far as when they started carrying pockets goes, brace yourselves as I
make a
Congratulations on buying a house. If I were having a less stupid day I would
make some kind of clever observation about your name and home ownership.
Anyway, congrats and best wishes!
Lauren
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From: Exstock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone had
At 17:24 15/05/2008, you wrote:
If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly
could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have
spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :)
There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't...
Yes, Allesandro
Lauren wrote:
This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in
some of the Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest
underlying pockets 13th century, even though they don't
show up in paintings.
It certainly seems likely that pocket slits are to provide access to
*something*
Replying to a couple of emails.
Thank you to whomever found the photo at Museo de Traje (can't find that email
at the moment). I'm adding it to my collection. :)
Susan Farmer wrote:
A lady in the SCA has her research (and the snippets from a couple of
the paintings) here
This just hit my brain. Looking at
http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/diaries/Kat%27s%20Soccaccia.html
the second picture, it looks as if the pocket might have been made from what
was originally the slit in an outer garment for reaching in for the pouch or
pocket. That the triangle pieces may
I'm a bit behind in my emails, but I hope those images
of the loose pockets help. The book doesn't state much
beyond what I posted, tho I haven't read it all yet,
so I may have missed a comment elsewhere in the book.
The earliest I've found comments on 16th century
pockets in general were from
Belatedly chiming in (sorry, I'm always a few weeks behind in reading this
list).
Here's the webpage the picture of the pocket came from:
http://www.vads.ahds.ac.uk/collections/pocketsofhistory.html
They don't have a date for the specific pocket being discussed, and their image
database won't
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly
could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have
spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :)
There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't
any extant pockets
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