Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-13 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Whalebone is not bone, it's baleen. It's very much like fingernails, and made of about the same stuff. Hey, Kayta, you volunteer up at SF Maritime Museum. Do y'all have any displays on baleen up there? Are you demoing at Festival of the Sea tomorrow? Yes I was, and nice to see you there.

RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
I have a small baleen frond guaranteed to have been harvested pre-ban. You can also buy it legally from Alaskan natives or those with the right to harvest whales for survival. The butt end of this frond is about 3/4 thick and it is fairly rigid there. The whole thing reminds me of the

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
] To: h-cost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone Right. But whales have actual *bones* too - were these ever used for things? Ah sorry missed your point. Dunno. I'd check the nautical collectors books for scrim, certainly

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Ann Catelli
Whale teeth, from toothed whales, obviously, such at the very desirable sperm whale, and ivory, from walrus other sources (also teeth, of course). Surely on other surfaces, too, but those are the materials I remember. A brief googling turns up ivory--whale teeth walrus tusks--as a modern

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
, September 10, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone Whale teeth, from toothed whales, obviously, such at the very desirable sperm whale, and ivory, from walrus other sources (also teeth, of course). Surely on other surfaces, too, but those are the materials I

RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lloyd Mitchell Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:43 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone In the New Bedford museum, I am remembering in particular, a hinged yarn winder that had some pieces

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
in this trading!!? Kathleen - Original Message - From: Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone I lived in Alaska for far too short a time: 1970-1972 but I happened

RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
According to the site that I bought my Baleen from recently, it is the harvesting of baleen that is watched carefully. What I bought came with a certificate that it was antique, pre-ban stuff. The walrus ivory was supposed to go only to native carvers, but the you could own it. I had a small

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-09 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Cin wrote: Whalebone is not bone, it's baleen. Right. But whales have actual *bones* too - were these ever used for things? -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Such virtue hath my pen -Shakespeare, Sonnet 81 I knew this wasn't _my_ pen! --Cynthia Virtue

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-09 Thread Cin
On 9/8/05, Cynthia Virtue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone on the H-Cost list a while back had some whalebone and described it as like a fingernail but it was black. IIRC, whalebone for corsets is the baleen, which are fairly regular in size, and thin, due to the job they do for the whale. I

[h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-08 Thread Cin
Joan: I made my corset using the 3/16-inch cable ties from the hardware store (package of 10, 34 inches long) which are easy to cut to size with sturdy craft scissors. They actually flex a lot like whalebone and are a lot lighter than steel bones. really? I've heard this claim a lot, about once

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-08 Thread Cin
On 9/8/05, Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to disagree with you, but whalebone for corsets is totally flexible. I inherited a gross whalebones from a corsetiere - they are maybe from the 1940's or 50's. Interesting. What a completely different experience. Wish you were even

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-08 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 21:04 08/09/2005, you wrote: On 9/8/05, Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to disagree with you, but whalebone for corsets is totally flexible. I inherited a gross whalebones from a corsetiere - they are maybe from the 1940's or 50's. Interesting. What a completely different

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-08 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Suzi Clarke wrote: The loose bones and the corset bones are both roughly the same size and thickness as modern white-covered steel bones - the ones with the tips. They are not all identical in thickness, but it is millimetres if not micromillimetres in difference. It is quite clear that they

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset whalebone

2005-09-08 Thread Cin
From: Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cant exactly buy them 'round here, tho, can we? Guess most wil make do with reed, woode and wyre. Now, Tokyo, whalebone's fair game. I can even recommend a shop. Really? I was under the impression that baleen only came from the larger whales, I