Regina wrote:
On the other hand doesn't it seem like current western fashion (shirts,
pants, etc.) have pretty much taken over from traditional garments?
India
is one of the few places where I see women in things like sari's, salwar's
and cameeze. Even then the children are frequently in
It's unofficially Little India, although there was a move to make it
official several years ago, including changing the street signs to be
changed into Taj Mahal shapes... Jackson Heights is a historical district
(turn of the last century original garden apartments), and the change didn't
Kimiko wrote:
I also need ouches or something similar for the hats I am working on
OK, I'll bite- what are ouches?
-Helen/Aidan
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KP wrote:
It's not just his term:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=ouch
Very cool. A new, accurate, but obsolete, word.
Thanks,
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I think you're referring to a coat with a standing color, buttons across one
shoulder, and then down the side of the chest, right?
For the long-sleeved version (also long in length), try an image search for
pictures of civilian and maybe military doctors from the influenza epidemic
of 1918 or
Julie wrote:
What was that Hugh Jackman and Meg Ryan movie? YUM.
Kate Leopold. I second the YUM.
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McClure, Kate wrote:
The seventh image down on this page http://www.wga.hu/index1.html
-- that's the frame location, not the image you want us to look at. Can
you figure out the URL of the actual image?
The easiest way is to give the name of the artist, and we can go directly to
Robin wrote:
Do you mean this?
http://www.christophersbookroom.com/cc/nazareth/bagatti/colfigs/bagatti-pl43-4.jpg
What I was looking for was a painting, but thanks for this, because it will
at least give me an entry point into the archives.
-Helen/Aidan
My guess is tassels, hanging from two cords forming a V-shape.
-Helen/Aidan
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Try Weir Dolls:
http://www.weirdolls.com/fabrics/100felt.html
They have a medium weight 100% wool felt in over 40 colors by the yard or in
pieces.
Hope this helps; good luck with your project.
-Helen/Aidan
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Carol wrote:
I saw a commercial on TV for a new Swiffer - it's for carpets and has
a sticky pad on the inside to catch the sweepings.
I just used mine for the first time, and it pulled everything off the rug-
beads, crumbs, hair, thread. You don't want to look at the pad too closely
Sue wrote:
I adore music from the Renaissance and Baroqe periods, though, and Mozart
(does he count as Baroqe or Romantic?).
Mozart is considered classical, along with Haydn and early Beethoven.
Classicism is between Baroque and Romantic.
-Helen/Aidan
(Who grew up not
Dawn wrote:
I'm looking for a woven, single fold tape that's used to trim the edges
of felt hats. It's not cotton bias tape. It has a weave more like a
shoelace, but it's flat. (At least on the hat I have). I want to buy
some to finish a hat, but I don't know what it's called. Can anyone help
Debs wrote:
And my fave fairy film has to be the one with Paul McGann about the
Cottingley fairies, that I can't for the life of me remember the name of.
I think you're referring to Fairy Tale: A True Story.
-Helen/Aidan
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, otsisto wrote:
Use for drafts.
I read this, and immediately pictured rolling up a length of fabric and
tucking it around the bottom of the door to my deck, where there's a
draft.
Took me a minute to realize that's *not* the intended reading.
You're not the only one.
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: [h-cost] historical action figures
I make no claims about the costuming, but the concept is cute:
Thank you for that link; it certainly cheered up my day. Although I am not
a big fan of unicorns, I could be persuaded to make an exception for the one
on this site...
-Helen/Aidan
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griz wrote:
St. Sebastian pincushion... you know you want one.
I know I do!
That's two for today. Thanks,
-Helen/Aidan
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While I use my light box primarily working on paper, I have also used it to
transfer designs to cloth when making banners, small theatre drops, and wall
hangings. The last time I used it on fabric, the 8W fluorescent lamp inside
was able to make the design easily seen through heavy
All I know about my partner is that the package originated in the
Netherlands, so I'll just have to thank you here for the nice beads and
pendants, and wish you all the best for the holidays.
-Helen/Aidan
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Thanks for the pictures and the extra info on the garments. It was great to
see.
-Helen/Aidan
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Elena wrote:
, in the neatest decorated paper box.
The box has a great back-story. It's called a Mrs Yabe box and I learned
the pattern from Barry Morentz, another calligrapher. He was studying
paper-making in Japan for several months, and when he left, his landlady
(Mrs Yabe) gave him a
Let Them Eat Cake was a very short-run British comedy set at the cusp of
the French Revolution, starring the comedy team of Dawn French and Jennifer
Saunders (of Ab-Fab fame). It's out on DVD, but not in the US.
-Helen/Aidan
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Kimiko wrote:
Oh thank you for sharing this one. I have to get the calendar, even tho I
have no idea what a Chick-Fil-A store is. I just loved April's Boldhoof in
kilt and claymore, and August's Kobe Kowsumoto. I was rolling in laughter.
The calendar is even funnier close-up and in person,
debs wrote:
you don't have flavoured crisps??
It depends on where in the US you live. I lived in New York City most of my
life, and even four years ago, there were only four or five commonly
available. Then I moved to western Pennsylvania, where there are more than
a dozen. Go figure.
British == American
Chips == Fries
Crisps == Chips
Once again, two countries separated by a common language.
-Helen/Aidan
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angela wrote:
Can anyone on the list point me to a source for period uniforms for the
depression era? Or perhaps even abroad in the 1930s. I am doing a
production of Urinetown, and we are going for a thirties depression era
feel,
If what you're looking for is US military uniforms, do an
I should have paid more attention to the title, but the search on 1930's
strikes should also get you pictures of steel and auto workers.
-Helen/Aidan
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Rebecca wrote:
I asked my son, who is studing midieval lit, if he had
any ideas. He wants to know the line reference for
this passage so he can read it in context.
The lines are #453-455 in the General Prologue. The wife's description is
between that of the physician and the parson.
Cheryl wrote:
I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them
escapes me.
Still-suits.
-Helen/Aidan
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Fran wrote:
Johann Strauss is a different matter. The 1883 Royal Opera Covent Garden
DVD of Die Fledermaus, is pretty good, except for sticking some other
random performers into one act as a sort of variety show. There are other
well-reviewed versions.
Totally unrelated guest
When I got my set of swatches from Dharma a couple of years ago, I was
surprised to find out that the barely there veiling in all those Italian
portraits was a real fabric. (My taste runs to linen and wool with
interesting weaves.)
Dharma has white silk gauze in two weights and widths, here:
Ann wrote:
The linen-rayon blends are generally cheaper than 100% linen. They are a
good compromise if necessary. They have the added benefit of making the
fabric
less wrinkle prone.
This statement is just not true. While linen does crease badly, rayon
wrinkles like crazy. Besides, I don't
Kimiko wrote:
Anyway, I found this lovely site that has images I had never seen before.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/Catalogue/NoticesInd/MAN01080.htm
Would anyone know what specific time frame these are from other than 16th
century (I kinda get that), and perhaps any further information, in
English?
Marie wrote:
But knitting, that's orderly and straightforward...
I don't know anyone who can do both knit and crochet.
I'm with you. I can knit, standing up in the subway even, but I can't
crochet worth a damn. I end up with a twisty thing that won't lie flat.
Now my grandmother could do
Gail wrote:
Are there any costume sites or books about this movie?
Here's a link to a photo gallery from the movie (from IMDB):
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/1994/Shadow/
-Helen/Aidan
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Bjarne wrote
had hoped to go to an event at the Gustavians in august, but now i am
sure, i wont make it because i wanted to wear something new. I guess
reenacting is canselled this season...
Don't let a difficult piece of fabric get in the way of having a good time.
You recently
Susan wrote:
My son wants the green tunic that the character Link wears in the
Legends of Zelda video games. He knows it's not authentic, but it's
*fun*
Has anybody seen anything about it on the net? I've googled to no avail
-- I'm having minimal luck even trying to find a good picture of the
Wow. Just wow. I can't wait to see the pictures of the finished suit.
From what I can see on my monitor, your flowers look like the tsar's. As
for too much, I don't think so- it actually seems kind of subtle and
refined. Just beautiful.
Thanks for sharing the pictures and go enjoy that
The images are from a book. I own it- somewhere in one of the boxes of
books waiting to be unpacked. I can't remember the title, but it came out
at least twenty years ago.
-Helen/Aidan
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The color plates are from Vecellio's costume book, but the site and text
are Norweigian. The picture in question of the spinning woman has the
text attached in Italian and Latin, with a Norweigian translation on the
side.
I have some Italian and Latin, almost no Norweigian, but here's a sense
Trying to send the scans took down Outlook and crashed the computer
(Microsoft is blaming Norton, who's blaming Verizon, who's blaming
Microsoft, and so on). Everything is restored except for a few e-mails.
We're going to do this the old-fashioned way. If you want the scans,
send me your
Saragrace-
E-mailing scans did not work out. I've been sending out CD-Rom's, but
I don't have a mailing address for you. Send it to me, and I'll send you a
CD.
Happy holidays,
-Helen
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, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Met Museum Bulletin
I'm late checking my email. I would love to have any books that needs
a good home especially garments from the 15th century up.
Lady Von
Hope I am not to late!
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debs wrote:
don't have any nfo on what the hair net part is called though.
Probably crespine.
-Helen/Aidan
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Glad to hear it got there; enjoy,
-Helen
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Here's a translation to English:
Notification of a delay in delivery
Chapter Order Number 1684054
Amazon Order Number 736-2550099-8381908
Dear Drews Leif,
We have received your order of 12/28/2006:14:48:00.
Despite all our efforts, we were not
I have a facsimile (pre-photocopies) made by a friend at the Library of
Congress in the early 70's. There is no date on the frontispiece, but
it was published by J M Dent and Sons, Ltd, London, and the preface
by Norris is dated 1924.
What do you need?
-Helen/Aidan
Bjarne-
Click on the link again, and then enter 63.43.1 in the search box
on the left to get to the picture. The URL was too long and it
truncated in Monica's post.
-Helen
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Terri wrote:
Several years ago, I downloaded the embroidery chart for the Bess of
Hardwick red work chemise embroidery. Recently I pulled the disk out and
found it was corrupted. I went back and searched all the internet sites
and
could not find it again. I have been told that the particular
There's a kirtle that show up in the second half of the 15th c. It has a
scoop neck, laces up the front, has a four-piece bodice with high armscyes,
short sleeves (with long sleeves pinned on), a waist seam and a gored skirt
set on mostly smoothly.
You should be able to that dress out of
That's beyond a typo. It's the Greverade Altarpiece by Memling.
The same dress also appears in a Crucifixion by Memling. Both
are at the Web Gallery of Art.
-Helen/Aidan
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Simply beautiful. And so nice to see one of your incredible dresses on a
live model.
Thanks for posting the pictures.
-Helen/Aidan
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The fashion definitely started in the '60's, part of the hippie Native
American stuff. The earliest fringed jackets I can remember in a band is on
one or two of the members of Buffalo Springfield. They broke up in '68.
There's a picture here:
Other '60's musical shows were Shindig and Hullabaloo.
Sonny and Cher (especially Cher) were also prone to fringe, and they might
be the earliest, around '65-'66.
-Helen/Aidan
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andy wrote:
Does anybody have better resources
on earlier Japanese costume, say Heian and Kamakura styles?
There's a great new book:
Kure, Mitsuo, _Samurai: Arms, Armor, Costume_, Chartwell Books,
London, UK, 2007, ISBN: 0785822089, ISBN-13: 9780785822080
It lists for $19.99US, but lots
Robin wrote:
(Ditto with demerara sugar, used
routinely for coffee in England but obscenely expensive.)
I get bags of paper tubes of Demerara sugar (Domino brand) for
$0.70/bag at the local Big Lots. The stores are all over the place-
their store locator is here:
More on Demerara-
I was in my local supermarket this afternoon getting baking soda
for the fridge, and guess what was on the shelf next to the brown
sugar and confectioners' sugar? Re-sealable pound sacks of
Domino brand Demerara sugar for $2.29.
This is not an upscale foodie market, just a
Elizabeth wrote:
This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can
find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary
visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the
unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers
The book is called _Jane Asher's Costume Book_ ISBN: 0932086314
and used copies are currently available for as little as $1 US.
-Helen/Aidan
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Julie-
A new copy of _Moda a Firenze_ is $99.50US; a new copy of
_Queen Elisabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd_ is $165.00US.
Best price according to www.addall.com right now is is $93.50US
at Amazon, with free shipping for Moda, and the best deals on
QEWU are from the UK, with Amazon UK at $158.74,
The painting is from The Allegory of the Months by Francesco del Cossa,
Italian, ca 1470. The picture you posted is of a group of figures in the
upper right-hand corner of The Allegory of April: Triumph of Venus.
You can find the rest of it on Web Gallery of Art, under del Cossa:
It's from Norris, fig.348, described only as The Houppelande. In
the text on the next page it is described as follows:
A scion of the noble House of de Clare is shown in fig.348. He is
shown wearing the houpeland (sic) decorated with the family badge-
the clarion (an enlarged detail of it is
There's a reason why I still do image searches with altavista...
The painting that started the question is by Richard Burchett, painted ca
1854-1860. It is a
copy of a painting in the private collection of the descendants of Henry Grey,
first Duke of
Kent, by an artist of the English School,
...but the page itself, with all the versions of the images, provides
wonderful examples of how understanding of clothing changes when copies
are made of copies are made of copies...
It might be fun to arrange them in chronological order and see how the original
goes through
changes through
Becky-
That painting is The Fruit Seller by Vincenzo Campi, , ca1580.
If you look it up at the Web Gallery of Art http://www.wga.hu/index1.html you
will get the full
painting, not the crop you found. You will be able to see all of her dress,
right down to the hem and her right foot. To me,
There's a color picture of Elizabeth Fitzgerald, Countess of Kildare, here:
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/FITZGERALD1.htm
Go about 3/4 down the page for the thumbnail. It can be enlarged.
-Helen/Aidan
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Oops. Make that the Countess of Lincoln; her mother's the Kildare.
Anyway, the portrait is dated c 1575, by anonymous, and in the collection of
the National Gallery of Ireland.
-Helen/Aidan
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The thing that struck me about this portrait is that it is the first one I've
ever seen that didn't look like some kind of padded roll or twisted/braided
arrangement. It has an edge and structure to it, which is even more obvious
when you look at the black white photo I saw first, here:
If you used jewelry findings, make sure you use jumprings which are soldered
closed like the ones here:
http://www.firemountaingems.com/search.asp?skw=jumprings+soldered+closed+brass+18+gauge
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There's an article Cutting the exotic: a study of some Asian trousers by
Penelope Woolfitt in Costume No 36 (2002). Maybe that's the one you're looking
for.
-Helen/Aidan
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How about this one- German, 1561:
www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036f02a.jpg
Enjoy,
-Helen/Aidan
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Rebecca Schmitt
lotsofteap...@charter.netwrote:
Somewhere in the past I remember seeing a drawing/picture from the 16th
century which showed in the background
Based on previous posts, the first one on the list at www.bookfinder.com for
$202 is an absolute steal.
-Helen/Aid an
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Oddly enough, I just made a frock two weeks ago, from this Simplicity pattern:
http://www.simplicity.com/p-1806-men-costumes.aspx
The seams are all in the right places, which surprised and impressed me. It
went together easily, but I used real interfacing, not the iron-on crap the
Wow. Great resource. Lots of paintings I've never seen before. Thanks for
posting the link.
-Helen
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I have a queen-sized wool comforter (wool batting between two layers of
egyptian cotton). It weighs less than the much thinner quilted all-cotton
bedspread.
YMMV,
-Helen/Aidan
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No dummy, but a couple of interview suits, lots of polarfleece for the upcoming
winter, and a new winter coat. Anything historical will have to wait until the
practical sewing is done. If I get to it, it will be a couple of new gowns to
go with the rest of the Viking age kit.
-Helen/Aidan
Does anyone have a good resource of photos of dress styles popular at the
time?
Try the movie version of Carrie. It has a prom scene and was made in 1976.
-Helen
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Anonymous is actually the name of the movie. It's a who really wrote
Shakespeare's plays movie out earlier this year. That first picture is Vanessa
Redgrave as Elizabeth I.
-Helen/Aidan
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I'm in Firefox and this worked for me:
http://closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be/#home
-Helen/Aidan
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You might have seen someone's interpretation of f 249v from the Manesse Codex.
The page has two people on a light background, the woman is seated to the left
looking over her right shoulder and she's wearing a light red sideless surcoat
puddled around her feet. In the interpretation, the
I had to make one a year and a half ago, and I ended up using Simplicity 2895.
I was impressed that the seams were in the right places, and the best part was
that the week I needed it (and I only had a few days to get it done), it was on
sale at JoAnn's for 99 cents. Of course, ignore all the
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