Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Laning
Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either Dead Spaniard or Goose-turd green when I looked

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Marjorie Wilser
You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was originally trying to point out in my response was that if only there were a precise color guide, we could describe colors and be understood perfectly by our correspondents (others misunderstood my intent). My comment didn't have

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Carol Kocian
On Jan 3, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was originally trying to point out in my response was that if only there were a precise color guide, we could describe colors and be understood perfectly by our correspondents

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Sharon Collier
- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Chris Laning Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Sunday 03 January 2010 9:31:54 pm Sharon Collier wrote: Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with elephants or smoke. Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have been discussed on

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Carol Kocian
On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: For one thing, it's Pantone who recommends that the swatches be replaced every year. I'm only on my third Pantone fan, and I've been working with them for 15 years. When I've replaced them I've compared the old and new swatches. They don't

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Lavolta Press
It's a matter of professional tools vs the need for them, and how precise does a costumer want to be with color. Design studios and printers may well replace their pantone books every year. These days many projects do colors with a CMYK build (instead of custom mixed ink), and the CMYK can

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Kimiko Small
Then may I suggest we drop this topic asap? Please? Kimiko But hey, I'm not in the mood to play one-upmanship games. Fran ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Lavolta Press
Fine with me. I have two books to lay out and proof. I was just throwing out a URL I ran across when I was researching something. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com On 1/2/2010 11:05 AM, Kimiko Small wrote: Then may I suggest we drop this topic asap? Please? Kimiko

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Ann Catelli
They've always been chemical. If you can touch it, it's either a chemical, or a mix of chemicals. Perhaps you mean synthetic. Ann in CT --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Burnt umber is what you get when you literally burn Umber, which is a type of clay. Ocher

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Carol Kocian
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: Then may I suggest we drop this topic asap? Please? Kimiko I'm still interested in hearing other experiences with using color systems regarding historic costuming. One other benefit for those who work with printers — if it's a

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-02 Thread Lavolta Press
Sounds like a fine resolution for the new year. You're the one who said my comments were erroneous and that people should go elsewhere for information. Maybe it's Mercury Retrograde having a go at us, because I thought it was possible to have a discussion on the topic. I merely posted a

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Chris
Thank you Fran --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com Subject: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:06 PM List members may find this interesting:

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser
It's interesting. I'm fond of saying we should all just use Crayola colors, the first system we learned. It's pretty obvious that, for instance, yellow-green is different from green-yellow. Though I remember having trouble with several shades, including ocher and burnt umber (what color

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Lavolta Press
On 1/1/2010 12:39 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Then there's the Pantone system for printing. Trouble is, they change the colors according to popularity, and the swatch books are expensive. Pantone doesn't change the colors as far as I know, or at least not unless it's over a long time frame.

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Carol Kocian
On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: On 1/1/2010 12:39 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Then there's the Pantone system for printing. Trouble is, they change the colors according to popularity, and the swatch books are expensive. Pantone doesn't change the colors as far as I know,

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Lavolta Press
Fran is correct regarding Pantone, however the books are expensive and recommended to be replaced every year. It was developed specifically for the printing industry — there are some basic ink colors that are mixed in various combinations to get the colors in the book. There have been colors

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-01 Thread Carol Kocian
On Jan 1, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: Fran is correct regarding Pantone, however the books are expensive and recommended to be replaced every year. It was developed specifically for the printing industry — there are some basic ink colors that are mixed in various combinations