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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Overdyeing with tan--Thanks--also discount fabrics
Thanks to Melanie and everyone. I suppose
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To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Overdyeing with tan--Thanks--also discount fabrics
Thanks
(I'm not thrilled about the idea of using tea because of the tannin, and I
suspect tea [and coffee] is not all that fast either.)
I'm told that caffeine-free coffee, or tea, can be used as a dye if you're
worried about tannin. I don't know if it's true or not.
CarolynKayta Barrows
Melanie Schuessler wrote:
I've done all kinds of overdying for theatre to tone things down. It
really depends on which way you want the color to go. Grey is not
always the best choice, as it really dulls things out. Tan and ecru
will take the color in a warmer direction, but it depends
Lavolta Press wrote:
I'd prefer these colors darker rather than lighter.
Then adding dye rather than dye remover is what you want.
Do you think for an ecru overdye 10% of our usual amount would be good?
I would say try it. If it doesn't do enough, do it again with more.
10% is a very
In a message dated 6/30/2006 4:10:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm told that caffeine-free coffee, or tea, can be used as a dye if you're
worried about tannin. I don't know if it's true or not.
It can be regular coffee outta the pot!
I'm told that caffeine-free coffee, or tea, can be used as a dye if you're
worried about tannin. I don't know if it's true or not.
It can be regular coffee outta the pot!
But it's not colorfast. It will come out the first time she uses a
commercial detergent on
I don't think the caffeine has anything to do with the tannin.
Fran
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
(I'm not thrilled about the idea of using tea because of the tannin,
and I suspect tea [and coffee] is not all that fast either.)
I'm told that caffeine-free coffee, or tea, can be used as a
I don't think the caffeine has anything to do with the tannin.
I heard that caffeine was the acidic part of coffee or tea, as tannin is
with walnut husks. So the suggestion was to use caffeine-free, which would
be acid-free, and the better thing archivally. But I only know that I
heard
YIKES!! Discount Fabrics is one place I consider necessary any time I
need to sew anything - and I mean anything. I haven't been for a while
(been a good girl and used stuff from my stash), and I guess I'd
better find time soon!
On dyeing with coffee/tea: I've never liked that pink tinge that
Caffeine has a pH of 6.9. While that's technically an
acid, it's awfully close to neutral pH. Caffeine is,
in addition, WHITE. Its presense or absense has
nothing to do with the dyeing properties of tea or
coffee or walnut hulls, for that matter.
The tannins are tan to brown, acidic, and the
I've done all kinds of overdying for theatre to tone things down. It
really depends on which way you want the color to go. Grey is not
always the best choice, as it really dulls things out. Tan and ecru
will take the color in a warmer direction, but it depends on the
characteristics of
At 11:20 PM 27/06/2006 -0600, you wrote:
I've just read a very interesting book on historic costuming for film.
It contains almost no information on how to design or make clothing, but
a great deal on how to organize the process of obtaining enormous
quantities of garments, keeping track of
In a message dated 6/28/2006 12:32:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The author does mention that
pure white often looks too bright on camera, and so he overdyes with a
weak solution of Rit tan to make it a shade that looks white, or just
off-white, when
This is true of stage too. But most wardrobe people I know, film or stage,
use Rit Ecru to tech white down. Well most often. Tan in Rit is on the pink
side. And Beige in Rit is on the green side. Ecru is yellowy. All read as
white. It depends on which way you want the white to go.
Lavolta Press wrote:
This is true of stage too. But most wardrobe people I know, film or
stage, use Rit Ecru to tech white down. Well most often. Tan in Rit
is on the pink side. And Beige in Rit is on the green side. Ecru is
yellowy. All read as white. It depends on which way you
In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:51:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a real color.
For a washer load, I've just thrown in the whole box of ecru. For tan or a
grey, just like 1/4 to 1/2 a box.
And it does change the color. It is no longer white, but definitely
At 12:39 PM 6/28/2006, you wrote:
This is true of stage too. But most wardrobe people I know, film
or stage, use Rit Ecru to tech white down. Well most often. Tan in
Rit is on the pink side. And Beige in Rit is on the green side.
Ecru is yellowy. All read as white. It depends on which
-cost] Overdyeing with tan
At 12:39 PM 6/28/2006, you wrote:
This is true of stage too. But most wardrobe people I know, film
or stage, use Rit Ecru to tech white down. Well most often. Tan in
Rit is on the pink side. And Beige in Rit is on the green side.
Ecru is yellowy. All read as white
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a colleague who used to tech with some chemical he ordered in the
mail. It was a dark powder that a small amount in a washer load would tech [to a
warm brownish tint] things permanently. It never came out! It would also work
[quickly]for small
In a message dated 6/28/2006 6:05:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It sounds like potassium permanganate. Although I could be
wrong--chemistry class was a long time ago.
**
That must be it, because I can hear them calling it potassium in my
I'd be REALLY CAREFUL of KMnO4 around cloth. It's an
awfully strong reducing agent.
Read up on its chemistry and interactions before
using.
Ann in CT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It sounds like potassium permanganate. Although I
could be
wrong--chemistry
You might try looking in books, etc. that deal with patchwork quilts. There
was quite the fad there for a while to use fabrics that looked aged,
tea-dyed, etc. I know you said you didn't want to use tea as an overdye,
but some of those books might offer suggestions.
You might also be able to ask
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