[hackers] Re: Dean, Democracy, and more (fwd)

2003-08-01 Thread zachary rosen
To: zachary rosen Subject: Re: Dean, Democracy, and more Great to hear from you Zack. Replies below. On 7/29/03 8:44 AM, zachary rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Larry, A quick update: the project I talked about a few weeks ago at iLaw - creating open source grassroots web tools for the dean

Re: Fw: [hackers] Re: Edge-to-Edge Principal / Reed's Law; revised2

2003-08-01 Thread zachary rosen
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, zachary rosen wrote: A quick note - the decentralized system that is being proposed is NOT peer to peer. At the top, at the aggregator, it functions just the same as the centralized solution: One database, searchable

Re: Fw: [hackers] Re: Edge-to-Edge Principal / Reed's Law; revised2

2003-08-01 Thread zachary rosen
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, zachary rosen wrote: This is exactly the reason I am so opposed to this solution. It is a basic question: who do you trust more to vett / prune media on the system that comes from nodes? DMT - or the nodes themselves? We are all

Re: Fw: [hackers] Re: Edge-to-Edge Principal / Reed's Law; revised2

2003-08-01 Thread zachary rosen
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, zachary rosen wrote: 1] Nodes should be able to vett the media in their repositories 2] The central aggregator should be able to vett the media accessible in the central repository. With the central solution [1] becomes hard

Re: [hackers] Transparency

2003-07-31 Thread zachary rosen
Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated before they can submit things. Comments? -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a

[hackers] Hey - listen to this...

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
Pay attention to Zephyr ... http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1359875 Cool huh? ;) -Zack

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind of things. It forces us to create the network to be far simpler and open than if we did it with NNTP - and that is a very good

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, zachary rosen wrote: Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind of things. It forces us to create

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
RSS, and was kinda miffed about it :) Good thing I was wrong. -Zack On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, zachary rosen wrote: Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
ideas? -Zack On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:10:35PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
, 29 Jul 2003, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:00PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: The issue was mailing lists vs. web boards; you will note that I *said* that weblogg-y stuff should be syndicated by RSS. Doing the mailinglist as Usenet is a very interesting idea

Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles

2003-07-28 Thread zachary rosen
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Joshua Koenig wrote: Deanster could also act as a (Jabber/Drupal) single-sign-on point for any Drupal Dean Nodes a Deanster also frequents. We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or

Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles

2003-07-28 Thread zachary rosen
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Joshua Koenig wrote: We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite

RE: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles

2003-07-28 Thread zachary rosen
://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: zachary rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:07 PM To: Joshua Koenig Cc: Ka-Ping Yee; Jon Lebkowsky; Zephyr Teachout; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles On Mon

Re: [hackers] deanspace.org vs .net

2003-07-24 Thread zachary rosen
I am not too concerned about not having deanspace.com. The only thing we would establish on the domain would be a site for techies. Techies can be entrusted to find their way to the right domain Although it would be nice to have all 3. Or we could solve the problem by buying deaanspace.net

Re: [hackers] node hosting

2003-07-22 Thread zachary rosen
I've only given dean $150 so far; I could cover setup and a bunch of months for only a couple hundred more; anyway, it was just a thought. If it won't float, it won't float. CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-- - Original Message - From: zachary rosen