[H] Here's a weird ruling from MS

I have a lot of people come in that need Windows reinstalled. Sometimes they have the Windows CD, sometimes the COA, rarely both. If they have the CD, I call MS and get a number generated for them. If they have the COA, I use my CD and their COA. I was talking to MS anti-piracy yesterday,

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That has to be the stupidest reasoning I heard. Never mind that drivers change constantly, or that you could use another CD from the same model (or image of to make a new disc). It just flat out violates the principal of a free or low cost replacement media that I thought the copyright law was

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I caught that at my last live meeting, it also is not legal to move a COA and OS from a OEM box to a white box even if the OEM box is destroyed. I think MS is trying it's best to make us all criminals IMO. I have done what you did on occasion, ask customer for the cd and get a blank stair. go

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Subject: Re: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS That has to be the stupidest reasoning I heard. Never mind that drivers change constantly, or that you could use another CD from the same model (or image of to make a new disc). It just flat out violates the principal of a free or low cost replacement

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Chris Reeves wrote: Hmm. That's what I was wondering. We picked up4 IBM Thinkpad Micros (the little 3lb suckers) recently, and they came with no media, just a restore partition. Hell yes, I'd use other media in that case.. or, if you need to just do a repair install,

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I'm by no means well versed in copyright law hence the term mostly because I do not know if there are clauses protecting media that does not protect itself with anti-copy technology. Which would be yet another artificial barrier to title 17 rights. FORC5 wrote: DMCA does not apply to a OS

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Yeah, it will create restore CDs. Restore CDs are often not what you want, however :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:56 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Here's a weird ruling

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Chris Reeves wrote: Yeah, it will create restore CDs. Restore CDs are often not what you want, however :) Very true, however microsoft is changing the OEM rules to make it so OEM's can't give out non-restore type disks, to lessen the possiblity that the disks will be used

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- Original Message - From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS Hmm. That's what I was wondering. We picked up4 IBM Thinkpad Micros (the little 3lb

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- Original Message - From: W. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS That's why I call Gates the world's richest software pirate. ;^) How about the approach some wealthy

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He's not alone, just the most visable. The other players have done their share of ripping off the public in the name of copyright/profit protections. Valve releases HL2 with one of the most draconian protection schemes, still charges $50 AND still requires the CD to be in the drive. Alcohol

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- Original Message - From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS Very true, however microsoft is changing the OEM rules to make it so OEM's can't give

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- Original Message - From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS I caught that at my last live meeting, it also is not legal to move a COA and OS from a OEM box

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Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against . . . We're after power and we mean it. - Dr. Floyd Ferris, character in Atlas Shrugged On 4/14/05, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: - Original Message - From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS I caught that at my last live meeting, it also is not legal

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, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Here's a weird ruling from MS OPK custom install disks are only a problem when you build part dujour systems which is NOT what good OEM's do. Even so it does not take much to make a custom restore disk there is a BS