Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-26 Thread Alexey Varlamov
Tim, all, I was offline for 2 weeks, now catching up with Harmony pace... I've seen more specific thread started, [drlvm] Doing the minimum to support Java 5 classfiles, so just a quick affirmative to round off this thread: Yes, I'm going to patch this in the nearest time. 2006/6/16, Tim

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Jimmy, Jing Lv
Tim Ellison wrote: Alexey Varlamov wrote: So we need answers from DRLVM and jchevm guys... Archie has expressed the jchevm opinion in favour of the change -- anyone familiar with DRLVM care to comment? (Of course this would be after Geir's VM build work, just asking) Regards, Tim DRLVM

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote: Seems everyone is glad to move to 1.5, so I'd like to know when will Harmony reach this milestone? I can hardly wait :) Good to see your enthusiasm! I was going to get an IBM VME download in place first so that those who choose can continue to use that VM without

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I'd like to suggest that we get at least one of the project VMs to support this before we switch. geir Tim Ellison wrote: Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote: Seems everyone is glad to move to 1.5, so I'd like to know when will Harmony reach this milestone? I can hardly wait :) Good to see your

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'd like to suggest that we get at least one of the project VMs to support this before we switch. Yep, Alexey said that there were some (minor) changes required to DRLVM, and Archie said that JCHEVM should already handle the new classfile format. Hopefully we will all

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Mark Hindess
On 16 June 2006 at 12:11, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'd like to suggest that we get at least one of the project VMs to support this before we switch. Yep, Alexey said that there were some (minor) changes required to DRLVM, and Archie said that JCHEVM

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-16 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mark Hindess wrote: On 16 June 2006 at 12:11, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'd like to suggest that we get at least one of the project VMs to support this before we switch. Yep, Alexey said that there were some (minor) changes required to DRLVM, and Archie

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-09 Thread Tim Ellison
Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/6/8, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/6/8, Mikhail Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what are the benefits? The main benefit for me is to have possibility to use all the 1.5 extensions without any problems. We will need to make this step

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-09 Thread Alexey Varlamov
So we need answers from DRLVM and jchevm guys... Archie has expressed the jchevm opinion in favour of the change -- anyone familiar with DRLVM care to comment? (Of course this would be after Geir's VM build work, just asking) Regards, Tim DRLVM needs some (minor) changes to support

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/6/8, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/6/8, Mikhail Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what are the benefits? The main benefit for me is to have possibility to use all the 1.5 extensions without any problems. We will need to

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-09 Thread Tim Ellison
Alexey Varlamov wrote: So we need answers from DRLVM and jchevm guys... Archie has expressed the jchevm opinion in favour of the change -- anyone familiar with DRLVM care to comment? (Of course this would be after Geir's VM build work, just asking) Regards, Tim DRLVM needs some

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Oliver Deakin
Tim Ellison wrote: Thanks to many stellar contributions all round we are pretty much exhausting the work we can do with the temporary solution we adopted of source=1.5 target=jsr14|1.4 compiler flags. How do you feel about moving to 1.5 for real? It would be simple to change the Java compiler

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Mikhail Loenko
what are the benefits? Thanks, Mikhail 2006/6/8, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks to many stellar contributions all round we are pretty much exhausting the work we can do with the temporary solution we adopted of source=1.5 target=jsr14|1.4 compiler flags. How do you feel about moving to

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Alexey Petrenko
2006/6/8, Mikhail Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what are the benefits? The main benefit for me is to have possibility to use all the 1.5 extensions without any problems. We will need to make this step somewhen anyway since we are going to create 1.5 implementation. The only question from me for

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Tim Ellison
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'm +1 except I'd like to see us get to the point where we can - produce a full snapshot of classlib + VM (using DRLVM or JCHEVM or whatever) Absolutely, so how close are we to doing that? - understand the timing of getting said VMs far enough that code will

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Andrew Zhang
Great news! I can't wait to work on REAL 1.5 ! On 6/8/06, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to many stellar contributions all round we are pretty much exhausting the work we can do with the temporary solution we adopted of source=1.5 target=jsr14|1.4 compiler flags. How do you feel

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Tim Ellison
psst don't tell anyone, but there is a workaround for new Eclipse builds too. If you set the compiler options to be project specific, then edit the core settings file manually to be source 1.5 and target 1.4, it does the 'right thing' for us ;-) But don't tell the Eclipse-folk they'll only fix

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Alexey Petrenko
2006/6/8, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/6/8, Mikhail Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what are the benefits? The main benefit for me is to have possibility to use all the 1.5 extensions without any problems. We will need to make this step somewhen anyway since we are

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Mark Hindess
On 8 June 2006 at 7:01, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm +1 except I'd like to see us get to the point where we can - produce a full snapshot of classlib + VM (using DRLVM or JCHEVM or whatever) I agree. I'd quite like to see a snapshot with a free vm and as much of the

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Mark Hindess
On 8 June 2006 at 16:54, Mikhail Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are the benefits? For one, being able to use compilers in a supported mode, that wont break if we revert the trivial change in HARMONY-344. ;-) -Mark. Thanks, Mikhail 2006/6/8, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'm +1 except I'd like to see us get to the point where we can - produce a full snapshot of classlib + VM (using DRLVM or JCHEVM or whatever) Absolutely, so how close are we to doing that? Trying to wack the drlvm build into shape... -

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Mark Hindess wrote: On 8 June 2006 at 7:01, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm +1 except I'd like to see us get to the point where we can - produce a full snapshot of classlib + VM (using DRLVM or JCHEVM or whatever) I agree. I'd quite like to see a snapshot with a free vm

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Archie Cobbs
Alexey Petrenko wrote: The only question from me for now: does all the Harmony VMs (DRLVM, j9, jchevm) support 1.5 version of class files? JCHEVM should handle the new CONSTANT_Class and classfile version, but other stuff like 1.5 reflection won't work yet. So far little attention and testing

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Alexey Petrenko
Mark, I understand your concerns about static linking of the large number of the libraries... We thought about this too... But we decided that for now it is the best way: we have to manage only few libraries inside the Harmony deploy directory... Which is changing its contents so often :)

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Alexey Petrenko wrote: Mark, I understand your concerns about static linking of the large number of the libraries... We thought about this too... But we decided that for now it is the best way: we have to manage only few libraries inside the Harmony deploy directory... Which is changing

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Salikh Zakirov
Mark Hindess wrote: If it is acceptable, I'd very much like to create some snapshots in the form of debian and rpm packages to see if we can encourage the masses to give Harmony a try. Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: How does it work in real life? Are there linux packaging 'czars' that we

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Mark Hindess
On 8 June 2006 at 11:54, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey Petrenko wrote: Mark, I understand your concerns about static linking of the large number of the libraries... We thought about this too... But we decided that for now it is the best way: we have to manage

Re: [classlib] moving to 1.5 for real - discuss

2006-06-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Mark Hindess wrote: On 8 June 2006 at 11:54, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey Petrenko wrote: Mark, I understand your concerns about static linking of the large number of the libraries... We thought about this too... But we decided that for now it is the best way: we