On Mar 28, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Luke Palmer wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Peter Verswyvelen
bugf...@gmail.com wrote:
So the first computer nerd was a women??!!! ;-) ;-) ;-)
Yeah, and she was so attractive that the entire male gender spent the
next 50 years trying to impress her.
Chris Dornan ch...@chrisdornan.com writes:
I am choosing a Linux distribution for a production Haskell project and
would would normally just go with Debian
I think Debian (I use Ubuntu, which inherits its packages) just got
a lot better. I upgraded to 10.4 Lucid, and now I have ghc 6.12.1 and
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Chris Dornan ch...@chrisdornan.com wrote:
Hi,
I am choosing a Linux distribution for a production Haskell project and
would would normally just go with Debian (pedigree, stability, and of course
Haskell Platfom included) but CentOS is in the frame.
Are
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:13:04 -0500
Jeff == Jeff Wheeler j...@nokrev.com wrote:
Jeff A bunch of stuff is packaged by dons for Arch; you can see a lot
Jeff of links to the Arch packages on Hackage. It might be worth
Jeff looking into.
+1 for Arch.
Sincerely,
Gour
--
Gour | Hlapicina,
My choice is latest packages available throug package manager and I use
Fedora 12 as of now. Fedora 13 is coming out with ghc 6.12
By the way did you find out any packaged rpms for ghc on Centos? I remember
a thread from haskell beginners on this where somebody was trying to get
ghc installed on
On 28/03/10 08:50, Gour wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:13:04 -0500
Jeff == Jeff Wheeler j...@nokrev.com wrote:
Jeff A bunch of stuff is packaged by dons for Arch; you can see a lot
Jeff of links to the Arch packages on Hackage. It might be worth
Jeff looking into.
+1 for Arch.
Add one
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, michael rice nowg...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Ketil,
Good point, but I think it side-steps the question. Haskell coughs on a
data value. Do we grep our data, finding and fixing the offender, or build
extensive data tests into our application code?
I'm not
Alberto G. Corona wrote:
The reasons for the sexual differences in mathematical abilities are
different, because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for
survival. Tools engineering and mastering is. If this is politically
incorrect I beg you pardon, but this is my honest theory about
As a developer in 3 languages (ruby java professionally, haskell as
hobby) I must say I really prefer just managing this manually,
separate from the package manager.
I'm running ubuntu LTS (8.04) on production servers.
I don't want to upgrade a server OS every 6 months, so I really like
the more
Jochem Berndsen joc...@functor.nl writes:
Could you point us to any evidence that supports your assumption that
there are sexual differences in mathematical abilities?
Luce Irigaray? (Amply butcherd by Sokal and Bricmont, or see
e.g. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Luce_Irigaray)
Leon Smith leon.p.sm...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Jason Dagit da...@codersbase.com wrote:
For some reason it started out as a male dominated field.
Let's assume for cultural reasons. Once it became a male
dominated field, us males unknowingly made the work and
Hi,
Am Samstag, den 27.03.2010, 10:14 + schrieb Colin Paul Adams:
Has anyone ever written a server in Haskell for managing live
game-playing (any game) across the internet?
I never worked with it or looked at the code, but it seems that the
server for hedgewars (A Worms clone) is written
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 09:04 +0100 schrieb Magnus Therning:
I have to say it looks like Debian has gotten their act together
somewhat when it comes to Haskel development. Many of the reasons for
my deserting Debian seem have been taken care of.
so, what is missing for you to come
On 27/03/2010 21:27, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi guys (and I mean it),
so, in short, no female haskellers ...
Bare one which sent me an email directly, but it looks like she's not
ready to come out of the closet yet.
And those of us already named for you. And there're a few others around
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Roman Leshchinskiy r...@cse.unsw.edu.auwrote:
On 28/03/2010, at 01:36, Jan-Willem Maessen wrote:
It's worth pointing out that there's a bit of bang-pattern mysticism
going on in this conversation (which has not been uncommon of late!). A
non-buggy
Dear Philippa,
display themselves on demand is putting it rather harshly don't you think?
I pretty much injected my previous email back into the thread because I
felt I asked a simple question and find that people are getting a bit
carried away. I am for instance quite certain that Lady Ada
Hi all,
is anyone here familiar with the paper Comprehending Queries by
Thorsten Grust?
http://kops.ub.uni-konstanz.de/volltexte/1999/312/pdf/312_1.pdf
As the paper dates from 1999 I wonder if its content may have been
obsoleted by later works or if it still is pretty much current.
I ask
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de
Dear Philippa,
display themselves on demand is putting it rather harshly don't you
think?
In the context of an existing, lengthy discussion that displays the
ignorance of some of its participants, no. I could easily see reading the
discussion
Am 28. März 2010 07:15 schrieb Jan-Willem Maessen jmaes...@alum.mit.edu:
A relatively recent article in CACM made much the same point for CS;
particularly noteworthy to me is the rather different proportion of
undergrad CS majors in different countries (the US is particularly low):
Does anything change if you swap the first two rhss?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Roman Leshchinskiy r...@cse.unsw.edu.au
wrote:
On 28/03/2010, at 09:47, Lennart Augustsson wrote:
It's important to switch from mod to rem. This can be done by a
simple abstract interpretation.
Also,
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, G?nther Schmidt wrote
display themselves on demand is putting it rather harshly don't you think?
No. The women in our community are not required to come forth as
witnesses on what it's like to be women in our community. They most
likely do not want to be under a
Dear Christopher,
Am 28.03.10 18:11, schrieb Christopher Lane Hinson:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, G?nther Schmidt wrote
display themselves on demand is putting it rather harshly don't you
think?
No. The women in our community are not required to come forth as
witnesses on what it's like to be
It was probably also uncool to call out a specific woman by name, who did
not volunteer for this.
Do suggest I did so? I don't recall mentioning anyone by name.
No, you didn't. That was someone else.
I like haskell, am interested in it, appreciate
being in contact with people who do
Neil Brown wrote:
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
I'm getting these errors (ghc 6.10.4 on Linux x86_64):
Building chp-plus-1.1.0...
[1 of 9] Compiling Control.Concurrent.CHP.Test (
Control/Concurrent/CHP/Test.hs,
dist/build/Control/Concurrent/CHP/Test.o )
[2 of 9] Compiling
Am 28.03.10 18:51, schrieb Christopher Lane Hinson:
It was probably also uncool to call out a specific woman by name,
who did not volunteer for this.
Do suggest I did so? I don't recall mentioning anyone by name.
No, you didn't. That was someone else.
I like haskell, am interested in
Hi guys,
are there any gay haskellers?
... Since the first one was so much fun ;)
Günther
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Neil == Neil Brown nc...@kent.ac.uk writes:
Neil That did indeed turn out to be the fix. That will teach me to
Neil release a package without remembering to test it on GHC 6.10
Neil first. I've uploaded chp-plus 1.2.0 to Hackage, which should
Neil fix this issue (among other
Hi everyone,
are there any male haskellers?
I hope this question is not considered inappropriate
Günther
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On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:26:58PM +0200, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi everyone,
are there any male haskellers?
I hope this question is not considered inappropriate
Gender doesn't belong in pure code, but belongs in a Gon^WMonad.
--
Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group
Thanks everyone,
Your observations have been most valuable but Mathijs' advice was excellent.
You may well want to pick a distribution that supports Haskell in choosing a
distribution for general work but for a serious project you in effect build
your own Haskell distribution and choose the
Hi,
I've done a complete refactoring of oauth library. This new version is
incompatible (in terms of interface) with the previous one. An example of
use is available here:
http://projects.bitforest.org/hoauth/dist/doc/html/hoauth/Network-OAuth.html
Probably the major change is that, along the
Chris Dornan ch...@chrisdornan.com wrote:
I am choosing a Linux distribution for a production Haskell project
and would would normally just go with Debian (pedigree, stability, and
of course Haskell Platfom included) but CentOS is in the frame.
Are there any particularly strong reasons for
Günther,
feel free to contact me when it comes to questions regarding
``Comprehending Queries.''
Understanding database queries as (specific) functional programs
is far from being an obsolete endeavor. Quite the contrary.
Think LINQ (Microsoft) or Links (Philip Wadler). Or Kleisli
(Limsoon
Hello,
I am one.
Best
Keith
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Hi guys,
are there any gay haskellers?
... Since the first one was so much fun ;)
Günther
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2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
This is definately a point where we will continue to disagree. I found
myself assuming that there are no female haskellers and wanted to verify it
by asking for data.
So what exactly is off-topic for this list? Is unsubscribing from the
list the
Programming in Haskell certainly makes me feel gay.
define gay
cheery: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; a cheery
hello; a gay sunny room; a sunny smile
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I'm sure there's some theory about fags being unable to use tools and stuff.
It certainly cannot be anything to do with cultural pressure. Perhaps it
is easy to mistake a male-dominated field for one that males are
intrinsically good at, but really, have a look at the Y chromosome, it does
2010/3/28 Pekka Enberg penb...@cs.helsinki.fi:
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
This is definately a point where we will continue to disagree. I found
myself assuming that there are no female haskellers and wanted to verify it
by asking for data.
So what exactly is off-topic for
2010/3/28 Pekka Enberg penb...@cs.helsinki.fi
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
This is definately a point where we will continue to disagree. I found
myself assuming that there are no female haskellers and wanted to verify
it
by asking for data.
So what exactly is off-topic
Wrong link. This is the right one:
http://projects.bitforest.org/hoauth/dist/doc/html/hoauth/Network-OAuth-Consumer.html
~dsouza
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Diego Souza dso...@bitforest.org wrote:
Hi,
I've done a complete refactoring of oauth library. This new version is
incompatible
Dear all,
We are nearing the First Ghent Functional Programming Group (Ghent FPG)
Meeting, and, judging by the number of people that registered on the google
form (28!), it will be quite crowded! The final formal program is as follows:
1. Jeroen Janssen - Welcome and short introduction to FP
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:14:44PM -0700, Jason Dagit wrote:
And as Luke Palmer suggests, perhaps you can ignore/filter these discussions
that you do not enjoy :)
Or just unsubscribe, like I did.
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Hi guys,
judging by the responses so far it seems that the gay haskellers have
more balls than the female haskellers to come out of the closet.
Uhm.
Günther
Am 28.03.10 19:15, schrieb Günther Schmidt:
Hi guys,
are there any gay haskellers?
... Since the first one was so much fun ;)
This is a post about re-designing the whole Haskell web site.
We got a new logo but didn't really take it any further. For a while there's
been talk about a new design for the Haskell web site, and there are loads
of web pages about Haskell that don't follow a theme consistent with
Haskell.org's,
I suppose it's easy to miss the underlying sexism when you aren't affected
by it.
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de
Hi guys,
judging by the responses so far it seems that the gay haskellers have more
balls than the female haskellers to come out of the closet.
Uhm.
Günther
For the most part, I like it, except for...
Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com writes:
The colours aren't the most exciting, but someone who's a professional
designer could do a proper design. But I like the idea of the site being
like this; really busy but not scarily busy.
^^ This.
Fran Allen talked about this in Coders at Work (I typed this up quickly so
forgive typos):
Allen: Recently I realized what was probably the root cause of this:
computer science had emerged between 1960 and 1970. And it mostly came out
of the engineering schools; some of it came from mathematics.
On 28/03/2010 21:38, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi guys,
judging by the responses so far it seems that the gay haskellers have
more balls than the female haskellers to come out of the closet.
Uhm.
So we can expect childish comments for not displaying ourselves on
demand now? Good to know.
Hi Luke,
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like you are complaining because people are not talking
about what you want them to be talking about. This will happen in
large groups.
Luke Palmer wrote:
It sounds like you are complaining because
On 28 March 2010 22:00, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.comwrote:
^^ This. It's too boring and depressing with all that grayscale. Why
not use the coloured version of the logo (
http://haskell.org/sitewiki/images/a/a8/Haskell-logo-60.png ) and base
the colour scheme off that?
Fraser Wilson blancoli...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure there's some theory about fags being unable to use tools and
stuff.
It certainly cannot be anything to do with cultural pressure.
Perhaps it is easy to mistake a male-dominated field for one that
males are intrinsically good at, but
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:35:04PM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:14:44PM -0700, Jason Dagit wrote:
And as Luke Palmer suggests, perhaps you can ignore/filter these discussions
that you do not enjoy :)
Or just unsubscribe, like I did.
Tell the truth. You only
On 28/03/10 12:53, Joachim Breitner wrote:
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 09:04 +0100 schrieb Magnus Therning:
I have to say it looks like Debian has gotten their act together
somewhat when it comes to Haskel development. Many of the reasons for
my deserting Debian seem have been taken
Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de writes:
are there any gay haskellers?
Look, Günther, I'll give you credit for trying, but you might as well
accept the fact that using Haskell isn't going to get you laid.
Which is just as well, since this list is for discussing a certain
programming
Dear Torsten,
good grief no, I did not mean that the topic / field was obsolete. In
fact most of my posts over the last couple of months are inquiries on
this very subject. (Apart from the occasional glitch).
Well about EDSL for Relational Algebra. I was very excited when I found
your paper
On 28/03/2010 22:07, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi Fraser, hi all,
one thing I did notice is the total absence of a sense of humor on
this list. The only funny thing that on this list was Don't play with
your monads ...
Yes, us humourless feminists have clearly poisoned the list as a whole.
Dear Philippa,
I love your posts, they are hilarious!
Please send some more. Can't wait for your next one.
Günther
Am 28.03.10 23:06, schrieb Philippa Cowderoy:
On 28/03/2010 21:38, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi guys,
judging by the responses so far it seems that the gay haskellers have
more
Also some operators are clearly sexist =, - = etc etc. I don´t kmow if
the lack of female haskellers is due to this inpudic exhibition of male
domination ;)
2010/3/28 Ertugrul Soeylemez e...@ertes.de
Fraser Wilson blancoli...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure there's some theory about fags being
Am 28.03.10 23:25, schrieb Ketil Malde:
Günther Schmidtgue.schm...@web.de writes:
are there any gay haskellers?
Look, Günther, I'll give you credit for trying, but you might as well
accept the fact that using Haskell isn't going to get you laid.
Which is just as well, since this list is
This looks great!
What are the implementation details of having this go live?
* Ashley: would you be able to e.g. install an index.html like this,
and hang the wiki under it?
* How do we allow editing (by trusted users?)
-- Don
chrisdone:
This is a post about re-designing
Hi Benjamin,
Thanks for testing it and providing a detailed report. I've since done
more work on Try Haskell, but not too much. (My job has taken up a
very large amount of my time and energy. I am moving to another one
currently.) I will address your points just to clear it up and maybe
we can
On 28 March 2010 22:54, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
This looks great!
What are the implementation details of having this go live?
* Ashley: would you be able to e.g. install an index.html like this,
and hang the wiki under it?
* How do we allow editing (by trusted users?)
Christopher Done wrote:
On 28 March 2010 22:54, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
This looks great!
What are the implementation details of having this go live?
* Ashley: would you be able to e.g. install an index.html like this,
and hang the wiki under it?
* How do we allow
Hi everybody,
Here's our report from ZuriHac. It's been also posted to the Darcs blog
with a couple of photos stolen from Johan's blog, some Darcs rebase
scribbling and a screenshot of Darcsden's intriguing fork-tracking
feature...
On a related note,
I wanted to find out what version of parsec is included in the platform, but
that version is not included on this page:
http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/contents.html
The package links just say 'parsec' and link to the lastest version on
hackage.
- jeremy
On Mon, Mar 22,
Magnus Therning wrote:
Well, maybe I should qualify that a bit. There were a few issues with Haskell
in Debian in the past. Most noticeably the lack of packages in the standard
repos. This seems to have been addressed. The other thing, that bit me at
the time, and witch really pushed me
jeremy:
On a related note,
I wanted to find out what version of parsec is included in the platform, but
that version is not included on this page:
http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/contents.html
The package links just say 'parsec' and link to the lastest version on
hackage.
The
On 28 March 2010 23:32, Ashley Yakeley ash...@semantic.org wrote:
There was a big competition for the logo, with this blind Condorcet voting
and everything, and this is the shape that was picked. But it kind of ran
out of steam before colours were decided upon. So I just copied the colours
2010/03/28 Ertugrul Soeylemez e...@ertes.de
However, as always there is a catch. Gentoo is a source distribution,
which means that you compile the entire system from scratch. On modern
computers this is quite fast, but sometimes it can hammer on your
patience.
To be fair, Gentoo has a
Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes:
The best way to find out is to look at the 'cabal spec'
http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/haskell-platform.cabal
Which, of course, mentions Haddock 2.7.2 in passing, to the confusion of
all... ;-)
From which all truth derives.
Any thoughts on
Mathijs Kwik wrote:
As a developer in 3 languages (ruby java professionally, haskell as
hobby) I must say I really prefer just managing this manually,
separate from the package manager.
I'm running ubuntu LTS (8.04) on production servers.
But this would mean that an environment for a
ivan.miljenovic:
Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes:
The best way to find out is to look at the 'cabal spec'
http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/haskell-platform.cabal
Which, of course, mentions Haddock 2.7.2 in passing, to the confusion of
all... ;-)
To the confusion of all,
Christopher Done wrote:
On 28 March 2010 23:32, Ashley Yakeley ash...@semantic.org wrote:
There was a big competition for the logo, with this blind Condorcet voting
and everything, and this is the shape that was picked. But it kind of ran
out of steam before colours were decided upon. So I just
ashley:
Christopher Done wrote:
On 28 March 2010 23:32, Ashley Yakeley ash...@semantic.org wrote:
There was a big competition for the logo, with this blind Condorcet voting
and everything, and this is the shape that was picked. But it kind of ran
out of steam before colours were decided upon.
Hello,
I keep running into issues where I want to use some version of parsec,
quickcheck, haxml, etc, in my code, but my code links against a different
third party library (e.g. network) which uses a different version of the
library (e.g., parsec) than what I want to use, and that makes cabal
On 29 March 2010 00:08, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
On 28 March 2010 23:25, Ashley Yakeley ash...@semantic.org wrote:
Is the front page a wiki page?
By the looks of it, yes. If you go to 'Edit this page', you can see
that it's made out of wikimedia templates. But that's just a guess.
Jeremy Shaw jer...@n-heptane.com writes:
I keep running into issues where I want to use some version of parsec,
quickcheck, haxml, etc, in my code, but my code links against a different
third party library (e.g. network) which uses a different version of the
library (e.g., parsec) than what I
Tillmann Rendel ren...@informatik.uni-marburg.de wrote:
Of course, this would need some type hackery à la PrintF to make set
accept multiple arguments, and the proliferation of such type hackery
may seem unfortunate. On the other hand, the hackery could possibly be
encapsulated in a
I am replying off list. I hope others will do the same.
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Hello,
I have some input which is divided up into segments like this:
[foo, hi, there, world]
And I want to use parsec to parse the segments. I am looking for a way to be
able to use Char parsers on each segment, but also parse the list of
segments as a whole.
I have an implementation which
In the case of happstack, the happstack-util library provided a function
that converted QuickCheck unit tests into HUnit unit tests. happstack-util
exported this so that the other happstack-* packages could use it as well.
We did not actually have the unit tests themselves enabled by default.
On 29 March 2010 11:11, Jeremy Shaw jer...@n-heptane.com wrote:
We should not simply make the unit tests be a compile time flag in the
.cabal, because there is no way for the happstack parent package to depend
on the version of happstack-data (for example) which has the unit tests
enable.
Dear Jason,
did you send this message before it was finished?
Günther
Am 29.03.10 01:58, schrieb Jason Dusek:
I am replying off list. I hope others will do the same.
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On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ashley Yakeley ash...@semantic.org wrote:
No, you're right, they're ugly colours IMO.
I originally mocked up the logo that we chose, so I'm partial to the
grayish-blue that I used. Others probably work, but I think the
combination of blues in the one that's used
2010/3/28 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Dear Philippa,
I love your posts, they are hilarious!
Please send some more. Can't wait for your next one.
Can this crap please die, and die now? I don't give a damn who is
female, or who is gay, or who is transgendered or of a particular
racial
G'day all.
Am 28.03.10 23:25, schrieb Ketil Malde:
Look, Günther, I'll give you credit for trying, but you might as well
accept the fact that using Haskell isn't going to get you laid.
For what it's worth, I got away with naming a daughter Miranda.
Cheers,
Andrew Bromage
Hello,
How can I parameterize the type of the following data class so that
any type can be a Candidate?
type Candidate = String
data Poll = Poll [Candidate] [Ballot]
My initial thought was to simply put a type variable in place of
Candidate, but that clearly won't work:
data Poll =
On 29 March 2010 13:13, Duane Johnson duane.john...@gmail.com wrote:
How can I parameterize the type of the following data class so that any type
can be a Candidate?
data Poll = Poll [Candidate] [Ballot]
data Poll a = Poll [a] [Ballot]
data Poll = Poll [a] [Ballot]
So close...
--
Ah, just a character away. Thank you.
Duane
On Mar 28, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
On 29 March 2010 13:13, Duane Johnson duane.john...@gmail.com wrote:
How can I parameterize the type of the following data class so that
any type
can be a Candidate?
data Poll = Poll
Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Another (provocative) observation is that most of the women
programmers I've known were good at it and thought they might
not be, but most of the men claimed to be good at it but
were not.
I've observed this too, but it's a bit droll. Let:
p = proportion of people who
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, wren ng thornton w...@freegeek.org wrote:
Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Another (provocative) observation is that most of the women
programmers I've known were good at it and thought they might
not be, but most of the men claimed to be good at it but
were not.
Günther Schmidt wrote:
One thing that I keep hearing is I'm not trying to be offensive. I
think it's easy to get caught up on not being offensive so that we
don't make any progress. It's impossible not to offend people -- but
it is possible to take the time to listen and correct problematic
Jason Dagit wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, wren ng thornton w...@freegeek.org wrote:
Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Another (provocative) observation is that most of the women
programmers I've known were good at it and thought they might
not be, but most of the men claimed to be good at it
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